This economy is almost too good to believe!

[OldCoyote]

Oct 23, 2018 21:12:16 GMT -5 whitney said:

So maybe employers will consider hiring some of the unemployed willing to work but due to past hx such as a felony or maybe a hx of having trouble passing a drug screen particularly if that screen indicates solely mj use or maybe if a current screen indicates solely mj use. There seem in the state I live in quite a few 'help wanted' signs for jobs that do not require a high level of skill or a high level of educational achievement.

Hire many people??

[OldCoyote]

I tell to he face, The economy is so good even you have a job!!

Loved Bernie,, Had Bernies poster in his bedroom window,, 33 y.o still living at home ,, unemployed until recently,,

Educated,, zero common sense, huge student loans,, wants loan forgiveness,, would  you have ever thought??  

More free stuff!!

[OldCoyote]

When he graduated,, no money,, He and his partner was going to hike from Mexico to Canada,, needed a sponsor,,

I offered to pay for the part trip to the bottom of Death valley in the Summer!!

[dezii]

Oct 24, 2018 13:16:46 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Oct 23, 2018 22:46:08 GMT -5 dezii said:

Same old, same old...they broke the rules, the law...my s**t does not smell..I have never ever broke a law..never ever didn't cheat on taxes..shop lifted..

Criminal...deport em…..What about the 800,000 kids here through no fault of them selves, the dreamers...they are as American as u and your kids......how about INS targeting families...been here for decades...deporting the mother , father...never caused problems...paid taxes...

Obama told INS to go after the criminals..the criminal criminals, not those who were here illegally...just cool it with them...have em registered, show up once a year..go home, work , raise the kids..

Trump and his people...here illegally...forget who, what, family disruptions and worse...deport em..Make my quota of pickups this week  .."lets check out these businesses...."

Exactly!  (bolded)

This is a nation of laws.

There is also a code in place for the level of punishment, for not following the laws. 


Save the rest of your 'poor them' posturing, for political rallies.

Your "holier then thou" feelings sucks IMHO...

I know u have broken laws...whether minor or major...u have crossed a street in the middle...u have driven over the speed limit...u probably had a cold one as u drove..especially in the heat of the summer...and other transgressions not mentioned..

I have and worse...and done things, while technically  not Illegal due to laws and rules permitting the happenings...but still....

and where do u get the "poor them posturing"  from my statements...This crowd of folks approaching the border...they can't be allowed to just enter...

yet I have no idea how to stop them except by military force which to me means mines, artillery, tear and pepper gas, and as a final defense ...automatic fire...

Would I participate in such actions? Of course not but trust me we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to so do so...[sad but true..]

[NastyWoman]

This economy is almost too good to believe!

"The stock market plunged Wednesday, wiping out all of its gains for 2018. The Dow fell more than 600 points, a 2.4% drop. The S&P 500 sank more than 3%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq plummeted more than 4% -- its worst daily drop since August 2011. It is now in a correction, falling nearly 13% from its all-time high set earlier this year. ..."

www.cnn.com/2018/10/24/tech/tech-earnings/index.html

#MAGA

[ednkris]

Oct 24, 2018 15:53:38 GMT -5 dezii said:

Oct 24, 2018 13:16:46 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Exactly!  (bolded)

This is a nation of laws.

There is also a code in place for the level of punishment, for not following the laws. 


Save the rest of your 'poor them' posturing, for political rallies.

Your "holier then thou" feelings sucks IMHO...

I know u have broken laws...whether minor or major...u have crossed a street in the middle...u have driven over the speed limit...u probably had a cold one as u drove..especially in the heat of the summer...and other transgressions not mentioned..

I have and worse...and done things, while technically  not Illegal due to laws and rules permitting the happenings...but still....

and where do u get the "poor them posturing"  from my statements...This crowd of folks approaching the border...they can't be allowed to just enter...

yet I have no idea how to stop them except by military force which to me means mines, artillery, tear and pepper gas, and as a final defense ...automatic fire...

Would I participate in such actions? Of course not but trust me we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to so do so...[sad but true..]

So if you can stop them...just let them in? We would be a sad country if we cannot protect our borders by any means necessary. If any one of the so called asylum seekers gets hurt or killed ( hopefully none do ) it will be their fault for trying to push through.

[dezii]

Oct 24, 2018 20:37:04 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Oct 24, 2018 15:53:38 GMT -5 dezii said:

Your "holier then thou" feelings sucks IMHO...

I know u have broken laws...whether minor or major...u have crossed a street in the middle...u have driven over the speed limit...u probably had a cold one as u drove..especially in the heat of the summer...and other transgressions not mentioned..

I have and worse...and done things, while technically  not Illegal due to laws and rules permitting the happenings...but still....

and where do u get the "poor them posturing"  from my statements...This crowd of folks approaching the border...they can't be allowed to just enter...

yet I have no idea how to stop them except by military force which to me means mines, artillery, tear and pepper gas, and as a final defense ...automatic fire...

Would I participate in such actions? Of course not but trust me we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to so do so...[sad but true..]

So if you can stop them...just let them in? We would be a sad country if we cannot protect our borders by any means necessary. If any one of the so called asylum seekers gets hurt or killed ( hopefully none do ) it will be their fault for trying to push through.

Yup just pile up the bodies...it's their fault...mothers / kids....

As "I said..."we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to stop em"...u one of em…? 

Be like at "Babi Yar "in the Ukraine...though it's said they supplied lots of Vodka to those participatin...

[ednkris]

Oct 24, 2018 20:43:58 GMT -5 dezii said:

Oct 24, 2018 20:37:04 GMT -5 ednkris said:

So if you can stop them...just let them in? We would be a sad country if we cannot protect our borders by any means necessary. If any one of the so called asylum seekers gets hurt or killed ( hopefully none do ) it will be their fault for trying to push through.

Yup just pile up the bodies...it's their fault...mothers / kids....

As "I said..."we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to stop em"...u one of em…? 

Be like at "Babi Yar "in the Ukraine...though it's said they supplied lots of Vodka to those participatin...

Like I stated I don't want to see anyone hurt. Do you just roll over ....well we cannot stop you come on in. Sometime when your the adult you have to have a backbone not a sappy heart. 

[dezii]

Oct 24, 2018 20:52:50 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Oct 24, 2018 20:43:58 GMT -5 dezii said:

Yup just pile up the bodies...it's their fault...mothers / kids....

As "I said..."we would have plenty of Americans clamoring to be the ones to stop em"...u one of em…? 

Be like at "Babi Yar "in the Ukraine...though it's said they supplied lots of Vodka to those participatin...

Like I stated I don't want to see anyone hurt. Do you just roll over ....well we cannot stop you come on in. Sometime when your the adult you have to have a backbone not a sappy heart. 

As I said....of course u and all don't want anyone hurt..BUT...can't roll over and there will be Americans anxious to have back bones...

[not me...no back bone...left it thousands of  miles away decades ago]
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For those who really never liked history....as far as what man can do to their fellows when they have "back bone"...
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

[Value Buy]

Another inconvenient truth for the Democrats about the expanding economy and what can happen.

www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stronger-economy-halts-10-years-of-medicaid-growth-as-more-americans-earn-too-much-to-qualify/ar-BBORBUu?li=BBnbfcL

Medicaid rolls are dropping due to people working

[Value Buy]

Oct 17, 2018 15:18:40 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Back to the threads subject. Lost $80k in 2 days last week. Made back $53k yesterday. I have dividend stock that pays well and will at the end of the month.

Ken, what was the drop yesterday?
Our portfolios took a $81,500 hit yesterday 
Our one utility was up, but everything else took a hit. I think our Kellog stock was up slightly also.
One IRA down 3.96%
Two down 3.6% and 3.8% respectively.
DOW and Nasdaq up nicely so far today, but the recovery for the day was right now, it is
about a fourth of the loss from yesterday.

[Tiny]

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...

Federal and state Medicaid spending still grew despite the drop in enrollment. Combined federal and state spending rose by 4.2 percent in fiscal 2018, similar to the previous year's increase, Kaiser said. States expect a 5.3 percent jump in spending for 2019.

"The gap between enrollment and spending growth in part reflects lower enrollment growth for children and adults, who are relatively inexpensive to cover, compared to seniors and people with disabilities, who have more expensive needs," Kaiser said. 

Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -5 Tiny said:

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...

Federal and state Medicaid spending still grew despite the drop in enrollment. Combined federal and state spending rose by 4.2 percent in fiscal 2018, similar to the previous year's increase, Kaiser said. States expect a 5.3 percent jump in spending for 2019.

"The gap between enrollment and spending growth in part reflects lower enrollment growth for children and adults, who are relatively inexpensive to cover, compared to seniors and people with disabilities, who have more expensive needs," Kaiser said. 

Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

Hmmn, the fact that fewer people are on Medicaid due to the economy is now a bad thing?
Myself, I have no problem with spending increasing on people on Medicaid. it is what it is. We all know the cost is going up. Dropping enrollment is a trend due to the jobs economy. It will remain this way, but will increase with increased illegal immigration at the southern border when they are enrolled in the state's Medicaid system. 
I disagree about one thing mentioning seniors. Most migrate to Medicare after they are retired. Even people with disabilities migrate from state Medicaid rolls after a certain time limit to Medicare

[Tiny]

Oct 25, 2018 10:15:43 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 25, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -5 Tiny said:

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...


Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

Hmmn, the fact that fewer people are on Medicaid due to the economy is now a bad thing?
Myself, I have no problem with spending increasing on people on Medicaid. it is what it is. We all know the cost is going up. Dropping enrollment is a trend due to the jobs economy. It will remain this way, but will increase with increased illegal immigration at the southern border when they are enrolled in the state's Medicaid system. 
I disagree about one thing mentioning seniors. Most migrate to Medicare after they are retired. Even people with disabilities migrate from state Medicaid rolls after a certain time limit to Medicare

Wait. Are you saying all the people who currently have jobs will ALWAYS have a job? Even when the economy tanks or when a business dies due to supply and demand? This is AWESOME! Trump is amazing!   

Or are you saying American Citizens are now working jobs that illegal immigrants use to work?   (I don't think that's really happening).  

[buystoys]

Oct 25, 2018 10:15:43 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 25, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -5 Tiny said:

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...


Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

Hmmn, the fact that fewer people are on Medicaid due to the economy is now a bad thing?
Myself, I have no problem with spending increasing on people on Medicaid. it is what it is. We all know the cost is going up. Dropping enrollment is a trend due to the jobs economy. It will remain this way, but will increase with increased illegal immigration at the southern border when they are enrolled in the state's Medicaid system. 
I disagree about one thing mentioning seniors. Most migrate to Medicare after they are retired. Even people with disabilities migrate from state Medicaid rolls after a certain time limit to Medicare

Seniors who have low incomes may qualify for Medicaid to pay their Medicare premiums and other OOP costs.  link

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Portfolio down 50K yesterday 

[Tiny]

Oct 25, 2018 10:15:43 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 25, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -5 Tiny said:

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...


Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

Hmmn, the fact that fewer people are on Medicaid due to the economy is now a bad thing?
Myself, I have no problem with spending increasing on people on Medicaid. it is what it is. We all know the cost is going up. Dropping enrollment is a trend due to the jobs economy. It will remain this way, but will increase with increased illegal immigration at the southern border when they are enrolled in the state's Medicaid system. 
I disagree about one thing mentioning seniors. Most migrate to Medicare after they are retired. Even people with disabilities migrate from state Medicaid rolls after a certain time limit to Medicare

How many "illegal immigrants" do you think receive Medicaid in the US?   10,000? 100,000?  1 million?  More than 1 million?      

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2018 10:46:44 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Portfolio down 50K yesterday 

Well, should get back a big chunk today.
Tomorrow will be a crap shoot.
Draghi probably helped the U.S. markets by saying they have to keep rates low over there.
I wonder if the Fed will step back in December from a rate increase due to European conditions.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

As of 9/30 one year rate of return is:

stock plan I manage +30%
IRA I manage +24%
Fidelity managed IRA +6%

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2018 11:02:36 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

As of 9/30 one year rate of return is:

stock plan I manage +30%
IRA I manage +24%
Fidelity managed IRA +6%

One of our IRA's turned negative for the year yesterday.
Our stocks, except for one, are plus for the year, but way down from where they were this summer. All the stocks are still in a drip program, and we plan to change to taking the dividends in cash sometime next year.
Most people only realize what they have lost from the high of the year rather than from the first of the year.
I have not tried to figure the percentage up or down for the year. Not too worried about the number yet.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

This January we both take our RMD and that should be the only withdrawal. 

[Value Buy]

Oct 25, 2018 11:44:30 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

This January we both take our RMD and that should be the only withdrawal. 

I turned 70 in September, so I will take one in 2019. My wife is younger. 
Hopefully most of the RMD  will be re-invested.  Might spring for a new car next year. Not sure yet.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I've taken 2 RMD's and my wife has found projects to spend them on. Now with both RMD's, and hers will be 2X mine due to how we invested, she's looking at a big project. 

[dezii]

Oct 23, 2018 23:17:47 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

I tell to he face, The economy is so good even you have a job!!

Loved Bernie,, Had Bernies poster in his bedroom window,, 33 y.o still living at home ,, unemployed until recently,,

Educated,, zero common sense, huge student loans,, wants loan forgiveness,, would  you have ever thought??  

More free stuff!!

 So u diss him to his face....Am sure it's great for his self esteem...

Parents didn't cover his education costs...even a good amount kicked in by very comfortable grand parent?  Just wondering.

[financially...as told by his own posts]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

[dezii]

Oct 25, 2018 11:44:30 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

This January we both take our RMD and that should be the only withdrawal. 

Excuse please...am slow....what is RMD?

[dezii]

Oct 23, 2018 23:21:37 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

When he graduated,, no money,, He and his partner was going to hike from Mexico to Canada,, needed a sponsor,,

I offered to pay for the part trip to the bottom of Death valley in the Summer!!

GRANDSON right?  Big of u...

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Required minimum distribution at age 70 1/2 from IRA accounts. Then it's taxed.

[dezii]

Oct 25, 2018 10:08:03 GMT -5 Tiny said:

But the cost to the tax payer isn't dropping...

Federal and state Medicaid spending still grew despite the drop in enrollment. Combined federal and state spending rose by 4.2 percent in fiscal 2018, similar to the previous year's increase, Kaiser said. States expect a 5.3 percent jump in spending for 2019.

"The gap between enrollment and spending growth in part reflects lower enrollment growth for children and adults, who are relatively inexpensive to cover, compared to seniors and people with disabilities, who have more expensive needs," Kaiser said. 

Isn't that bad? Even MORE of your tax dollars are paying for lazy ass people who can't work or who are too sick to work (probably through their own fault).

(probably through their own fault).


Have a link...?

[OldCoyote]

Oct 25, 2018 12:15:17 GMT -5 dezii said:

Oct 23, 2018 23:21:37 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

When he graduated,, no money,, He and his partner was going to hike from Mexico to Canada,, needed a sponsor,,

I offered to pay for the part trip to the bottom of Death valley in the Summer!!

GRANDSON right?  Big of u...

On the other hand, one of My GS did a tour with the Marines, they paid for his school, even while he is in school,, went to work for the Bank of America!!

He will get a ton of money!!

[dezii]

Oct 28, 2018 8:51:54 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Oct 25, 2018 12:15:17 GMT -5 dezii said:

GRANDSON right?  Big of u...

On the other hand, one of My GS did a tour with the Marines, they paid for his school, even while he is in school,, went to work for the Bank of America!!

He will get a ton of money!!

ahhh...playing favorites...am sure u let him know how he disappointed u...great for his self esteem.....