The "eleven nations" within the USA

[Value Buy]

This article sort of under estimates the real feelings of the 11 different nations within the USA, but does give some food for thought for everyone. Obviously many posters here are trapped in a "nation" they are not happy with.
www.businessinsider.com/regional-differences-united-states-2018-1#the-midlands-prioritize-the-middle-class-6

Are you ina nation you are happy with, or is it time to move, and still allows you to live happy in the USA?

[Deleted]

Interesting read.

I deal with a lot of people outside of the US and a lot of them have a single perception of the US and are shocked visiting a few different locations.

Also the map makes more sense to me in that IL is so messed up and a lot of people play the blame the other regions of the state game.  It appears from the map to be the major state with 3 huge areas of difference.

[zibazinski]

I’m happy now

[happyhoix]

Interesting breakdown of the different regions.

I've been living in an incompatible part of the country for 38 years.  Unfortunately, DH is from here, and now, also my DS and his lovely bride live here.  So I think we're stuck.

We do daydream sometimes about moving someplace that isn't this place. Maybe we can get a vacation home there, and at least visit a lot.  

[billisonboard]

I live in an incompatible region also but there exists this faction ... I'm happy

[Value Buy]

We were raised in the Midlands, and still have our primary residence here.
We winter in what he calls the Spanish Carribean, but quite frankly it is probably more like the deep south than residents there are welling to admit. I guess Miami just carries more weight than the SWFL corridor of Naples to Charlotte Harbor 

Both areas are our happy place.
We should move our primary residence to Florida for tax purposes, but have not done it, and probably will just keep paying the tax man up north.......

[happyhoix]

Aug 13, 2018 18:35:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We were raised in the Midlands, and still have our primary residence here.
We winter in what he calls the Spanish Carribean, but quite frankly it is probably more like the deep south than residents there are welling to admit. I guess Miami just carries more weight than the SWFL corridor of Naples to Charlotte Harbor 

Both areas are our happy place.
We should move our primary residence to Florida for tax purposes, but have not done it, and probably will just keep paying the tax man up north.......

I'd keep the house in the north, you need someplace to retreat to when the hurricanes show up. (And someplace to keep the family heirlooms safe!)

That, and during that part of the middle of the summer when getting into a car with dark seats in shorts can meld the hot seat to your ass permanently.

If we got to the point where we had a vacation house, it would be in the north, near a lake, so we could do the reverse snowbird thing and get out of the mind melting humidity and heat that passes for 'summer' down here.  I remember summers in PA and they were wonderful, warm in the daytime, cool at night, perfect for hotdog and marshmallow roasts, but not hot enough to require full time AC.

 

[Tennesseer]

Aug 14, 2018 9:58:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 13, 2018 18:35:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We were raised in the Midlands, and still have our primary residence here.
We winter in what he calls the Spanish Carribean, but quite frankly it is probably more like the deep south than residents there are welling to admit. I guess Miami just carries more weight than the SWFL corridor of Naples to Charlotte Harbor 

Both areas are our happy place.
We should move our primary residence to Florida for tax purposes, but have not done it, and probably will just keep paying the tax man up north.......

I'd keep the house in the north, you need someplace to retreat to when the hurricanes show up. (And someplace to keep the family heirlooms safe!)

That, and during that part of the middle of the summer when getting into a car with dark seats in shorts can meld the hot seat to your ass permanently.

If we got to the point where we had a vacation house, it would be in the north, near a lake, so we could do the reverse snowbird thing and get out of the mind melting humidity and heat that passes for 'summer' down here.  I remember summers in PA and they were wonderful, warm in the daytime, cool at night, perfect for hotdog and marshmallow roasts, but not hot enough to require full time AC.

 

Living a good porton of my life in the northeast, a heat wave was two or more days of 90 degree plus temps in a row. Down here, it's two or more 100 degree plus days in a row. After 25 summers here I still cannot take the summer heat.

[happyhoix]

Aug 14, 2018 10:03:42 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Aug 14, 2018 9:58:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I'd keep the house in the north, you need someplace to retreat to when the hurricanes show up. (And someplace to keep the family heirlooms safe!)

That, and during that part of the middle of the summer when getting into a car with dark seats in shorts can meld the hot seat to your ass permanently.

If we got to the point where we had a vacation house, it would be in the north, near a lake, so we could do the reverse snowbird thing and get out of the mind melting humidity and heat that passes for 'summer' down here.  I remember summers in PA and they were wonderful, warm in the daytime, cool at night, perfect for hotdog and marshmallow roasts, but not hot enough to require full time AC.

 

Living a good porton of my life in the northeast, a heat wave was two or more days of 90 degree plus temps in a row. Down here, it's two or more 100 degree plus days in a row. After 25 summers here I still cannot take the summer heat.

I remember visiting Cedar point in Ohio several years ago, with DH and my son. It was a lovely 85 degrees or so. Low humidity. It was divine. I couldn't believe all the Ohioans walking around with those little mist spraying personal fans, bitching about how hot it was. 

Clearly, not someone who ever walked in downtown Savannah GA at noon in August...

[Value Buy]

Aug 14, 2018 9:58:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 13, 2018 18:35:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

We were raised in the Midlands, and still have our primary residence here.
We winter in what he calls the Spanish Carribean, but quite frankly it is probably more like the deep south than residents there are welling to admit. I guess Miami just carries more weight than the SWFL corridor of Naples to Charlotte Harbor 

Both areas are our happy place.
We should move our primary residence to Florida for tax purposes, but have not done it, and probably will just keep paying the tax man up north.......

I'd keep the house in the north, you need someplace to retreat to when the hurricanes show up. (And someplace to keep the family heirlooms safe!)

That, and during that part of the middle of the summer when getting into a car with dark seats in shorts can meld the hot seat to your ass permanently.

If we got to the point where we had a vacation house, it would be in the north, near a lake, so we could do the reverse snowbird thing and get out of the mind melting humidity and heat that passes for 'summer' down here.  I remember summers in PA and they were wonderful, warm in the daytime, cool at night, perfect for hotdog and marshmallow roasts, but not hot enough to require full time AC.

 

Speaking of hurricanes, what happened? Half way through August and all is calm.........(I will probably regret that statement)
As far as heat and humidity, our cars up north get plenty hot in the summer here. Heat and humidity is not much better than swfl when I check the weather there. It just constantly rains in southern Florida for a few hours every day.......When I took the family on vacations to Tennessee and northern Georgia and Carolinas in the mountain areas, locals were always apoligizing for the humidity and mosquitoes. It was never as bad as back home in Indiana.......

[happyhoix]

Aug 15, 2018 7:30:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Aug 14, 2018 9:58:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I'd keep the house in the north, you need someplace to retreat to when the hurricanes show up. (And someplace to keep the family heirlooms safe!)

That, and during that part of the middle of the summer when getting into a car with dark seats in shorts can meld the hot seat to your ass permanently.

If we got to the point where we had a vacation house, it would be in the north, near a lake, so we could do the reverse snowbird thing and get out of the mind melting humidity and heat that passes for 'summer' down here.  I remember summers in PA and they were wonderful, warm in the daytime, cool at night, perfect for hotdog and marshmallow roasts, but not hot enough to require full time AC.

 

Speaking of hurricanes, what happened? Half way through August and all is calm.........(I will probably regret that statement)
As far as heat and humidity, our cars up north get plenty hot in the summer here. Heat and humidity is not much better than swfl when I check the weather there. It just constantly rains in southern Florida for a few hours every day.......When I took the family on vacations to Tennessee and northern Georgia and Carolinas in the mountain areas, locals were always apoligizing for the humidity and mosquitoes. It was never as bad as back home in Indiana.......

Ix-nay on the hurricanes! (If we don't talk about them, maybe they won't happen).

I think the major difference for me between PA and where I life in the South is the intensity and duration of the hot humid weather. In PA, we had some hot days, but at night, it always cooled down enough that an open window was good enough. It's not like here, where you can go outside at midnight and your clothes immediately melt and stick to your skin due to the humidity. Plus, I can remember in PA that spring lasted until May, and the weather didn't get really hot until July and August, and it was always ending when school started (I remember the first day of school was always sweater weather). Here, we fast forward through Spring and it starts to heat up by the end of April and pretty much stays hot and humid, broken up occasionally with fierce thunderstorms or intense droughts, until the end of September  - mid October. By the end of each summer, I feel like I'm going to become an ax murderer if the heat doesn't break soon. So far, I've managed to avoid it, but who knows....

[thyme4change]

If El Norte was politically as he described it, I would be happy, but I dont agree with his assessment.

[cktc]

Aug 15, 2018 8:46:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If El Norte was politically as he described it, I would be happy, but I dont agree with his assessment.

Maybe we are getting there. Phoenix is known for transplants, but the native Arizonan population is growing.

[thyme4change]

Aug 15, 2018 10:13:26 GMT -5 cktc said:

Aug 15, 2018 8:46:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If El Norte was politically as he described it, I would be happy, but I dont agree with his assessment.

Maybe we are getting there. Phoenix is known for transplants, but the native Arizonan population is growing.

I don't think of rural AZ as a "hotbed of democratic reform and revolutionary settlement." And I don't think the Phoenix suburbs are full of people who will start a rebellion.

Maybe the "reform" he is talking about is leaving the United States and become an Anarchy. I guess that would be pretty revolutionary.

[djAdvocate]

Aug 13, 2018 10:09:53 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

This article sort of under estimates the real feelings of the 11 different nations within the USA, but does give some food for thought for everyone. Obviously many posters here are trapped in a "nation" they are not happy with.
www.businessinsider.com/regional-differences-united-states-2018-1#the-midlands-prioritize-the-middle-class-6

Are you ina nation you are happy with, or is it time to move, and still allows you to live happy in the USA? [img alt="" src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png" class="smile"]

thanks for the invite, but i find differences with all 11 of these nations, even based on the small descriptions.  that having been said, El Norte and New France appeal to me the best- and it is precisely the influence of Spain and France that make them interesting, imo.  but why settle for a pale substitute, when the real thing is out there, waiting for me, with open arms? 

(PS- i can't stand the weather in NO, and the inland areas of El Norte, so it makes the "possible" for me even smaller.  but i am still looking at Northern Baja as a possibility)