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Post by ed1066 on Mar 31, 2011 14:11:20 GMT -5
This is how the Democrats are winning the "close" elections. thehill.com/homenews/house/153079-gop-says-5000-non-citizens-voting-in-colorado-a-wake-up-call-for-statesRepublicans on the House Administration Committee want to shore up voter registration rules in the wake of a Colorado study that found as many as 5,000 non-citizens in the state took part in last year’s election. Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.), the panel’s chairman, called the study “a disturbing wake-up call” that should cause every state to review its safeguards to prevent illegal voting. “We simply cannot have an electoral system that allows thousands of non-citizens to violate the law and vote in our elections. We must do more to protect the integrity of our electoral processes,” Harper added.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 31, 2011 14:12:44 GMT -5
I can only imagine the number is much, much higher in states like California, Arizona, and Florida...
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Post by workpublic on Mar 31, 2011 14:40:36 GMT -5
and colorado
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 31, 2011 15:02:45 GMT -5
I take "as many as" to mean that there were a WHOLE bunch more than that, plus other forms of voter fraud. But we can't ask people to show government-issued I.D. That's discriminatory...against Democrats trying steal elections.
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Post by bean29 on Mar 31, 2011 15:12:17 GMT -5
I would like to know how they determined the people were non-citizens?
I can not imagine any way they could define this unless Colorado already requires voter ID?
An ID would not necessaily preclude a non-citizen from voting in WI b/c a WI DL does not indicate citizenship.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 31, 2011 15:15:44 GMT -5
I think there should be a substantial punishment levied on non-citizens who vote and also, if it can be determined who registered that person without doing due diligence, that person should also be penalized. As close as elections have become, every vote truly counts, and a directed campaign to register illegal voters (like those run by ACORN during every election) can change the outcome by illegal means...
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Post by mtntigger on Mar 31, 2011 15:17:48 GMT -5
Why not? I sent in a copy of my driver's license to become a registered voter. Hmmm, 5,000 potentially illegal voters out of almost 3.3 million registered voters at the time, so 0.1% of the voters. Yup, that's what caused the Coloradoans to go Democrat in 2010. It couldn't possibly be the crappy Republican choices that we had (and no, the Democrat choices weren't cream of the crop either).
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 31, 2011 15:29:19 GMT -5
The reason is the same as when the founding fathers birthed the electoral college - Americans are too stupid to be trusted with the full impact of voting.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Mar 31, 2011 18:53:18 GMT -5
Tsk, tsk Ed. What you said: what the article title says: And the first paragraph says: "Republicans on the House Administration Committee want to shore up voter registration rules in the wake of a Colorado study that found as many as 5,000 non-citizens in the state took part in last year’s election." Note "as many." One? 4,999? Funny they don't mention how many votes were for what party. Why just imagine? Just find a related article, do a little quote clipping and selective editing, and viola! You've got the results you've only just imagined a few minutes before!
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 1, 2011 12:46:44 GMT -5
They don't have to, we all know...
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Post by Angel! on Apr 1, 2011 13:13:11 GMT -5
I would like to know how they determined the people were non-citizens? I can not imagine any way they could define this unless Colorado already requires voter ID? An ID would not necessaily preclude a non-citizen from voting in WI b/c a WI DL does not indicate citizenship. They arrived at the number 5,000 because that was the number of people who voted who were not US citizens at the time they got their driver's license. However, to get their drivers license, they have to be here legally - most had green cards. They don't know how many of these 5,000 were still non-citizens at election time, which is why they can only say "as many as 5,000". It is possible that many went on to become legal citizens since that time & voted legally. They need to check a voter's citizenship status when they are registering to vote.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 1, 2011 13:26:27 GMT -5
Sure hon, and who's the party of cheap labor? And what's Boehner and Co. doing about this problem? I guess redefining rape was a much more important issue. Funny how few here sees it's a bi-partisian problem. Don't you think it's time to get your heads out of the elephant's ass?
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Post by Angel! on Apr 1, 2011 13:28:02 GMT -5
I don't know about that. These aren't illegal immigrants (which I am guessing you were assuming with this statement), these are people here legally, but aren't citizens.
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