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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 13, 2018 10:53:58 GMT -5
This morning I was scouring You Tube for the 2016 election night coverage that I was watching, when the they realized that Trump was going to win,
But not only that would most likely take the Congress back! I can't find it!!
But after viewing several videos,, Wooooo Hoooooo what a GLORIOUS night that was,, I was able to relive it again, I love watching the videos on it...waking up everyday knowing Trump is president and Hillary lost, is like Christmas morning everyday will you still be watching these videos after he crashes and burns?
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Post by dezii on Aug 13, 2018 10:56:08 GMT -5
Value, your fixation on Hillery after all this time is a bit much don't u agree.? Yes I voted for her as did 3 million plus more voters then the Donald...It's not that we made a mistake...it's just by the rules a incompetent individual became our President and that the majority of folks, including the man himself, thought she was going to win...it's what it was. We have had over a year and a half of him in the highest office in the land, technically one of the most powerful individuals in the world...You are pleased and content , feel it is the way the country should be governed, the way our country's influence should be expressed ? Fine.... I feel exact opposite...as do a few others of my fellow countrymen. We'll let the historians have the last word in fifty years or so.... As far as the icon...believe this is the one your referring to... not four years...a year and a half is over.....we'll have to see how it plays out in 2020 won't we. Who is Hillery? I do not worry about her except when she makes a statement to the press for the latest news cycle. If only she would fage away quietly. Republicans would be happy and the Democrats would be estatic. On this issue both parties are in agreement. I am happy to see you write you have to deal with the President for 2 1/2 years, even though it is much longer than that..... ......... but still you are acknowledging he is not going anywhere until the new Inauguration when he is put in office for another four years. could be...then again....but it doesn't make sense to debate such a happening...the man continues to keep himself so healthy as he does now...who knows? Are u familier with a phenomenon called strokes?
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 15, 2018 7:07:57 GMT -5
Who is Hillery? I do not worry about her except when she makes a statement to the press for the latest news cycle. If only she would fage away quietly. Republicans would be happy and the Democrats would be estatic. On this issue both parties are in agreement. I am happy to see you write you have to deal with the President for 2 1/2 years, even though it is much longer than that..... ......... but still you are acknowledging he is not going anywhere until the new Inauguration when he is put in office for another four years. could be...then again....but it doesn't make sense to debate such a happening...the man continues to keep himself so healthy as he does now...who knows? Are u familier with a phenomenon called strokes? I think it's a toss up to see if the dementia kicks in before or after the stroke. (both his parents had dementia).
Sometimes, I think the dementia has already kicked in.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 15, 2018 11:41:45 GMT -5
too bad there is nobody here left to tell us how long he has to live.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 12:49:10 GMT -5
so, three months to go to midterms. here are my predictions: 1) Russian interference is a given. 2) despite that, i suspect that Democrats will retake the House. current odds i am giving are 5:3 3) GOP will hold on to the Senate. current odds i am giving are 7:3 4) i don't have any governership predictions, but the GOP will probably maintain a majority. anyone want to contradict me on the above? if so, why? NOTE: losing the house will have major ramifications for legislation, investigation, and legal oversight of the presidency. and yes, that would be really helpful at this point, as we can't rely upon Trey Gowdy and his cronies to defy this president, and do the right thing, should the hour come. it will NOT, however, help Democrats in terms of judicial appointments. so, Trump is going to win that one, unless Democrats can ALSO flip the Senate, which they are favored to do in 2020.
I pasted the bolded into my personal notes. Going by your 3 month preview in 2014 and 2016, Lets just say my faith in your predictions is wavering a bit. We'll see in three months.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 15, 2018 12:55:38 GMT -5
so, three months to go to midterms. here are my predictions: 1) Russian interference is a given. 2) despite that, i suspect that Democrats will retake the House. current odds i am giving are 5:3 3) GOP will hold on to the Senate. current odds i am giving are 7:3 4) i don't have any governership predictions, but the GOP will probably maintain a majority. anyone want to contradict me on the above? if so, why? NOTE: losing the house will have major ramifications for legislation, investigation, and legal oversight of the presidency. and yes, that would be really helpful at this point, as we can't rely upon Trey Gowdy and his cronies to defy this president, and do the right thing, should the hour come. it will NOT, however, help Democrats in terms of judicial appointments. so, Trump is going to win that one, unless Democrats can ALSO flip the Senate, which they are favored to do in 2020.
I pasted the bolded into my personal notes. Going by your 3 month preview in 2014 and 2016, Lets just say my faith in your predictions is wavering a bit.We'll see in three months. your memory of those must be different than mine. in 2014, i predicted that Democrats would lose control of both the House and Senate. in 2016, my last post stated that the presidential race was too close to call.
if you recollection is different, or if there is something OTHER than the above that is shaking your confidence in me, please state why, and provide any evidence, if you can. edit: i am maintaining the odds in the bolded post, as of today. be sure to check back in for regular updates, or you might miss any last minute changes! edit2: strike that. i put the odds of the GOP keeping the Senate at 5:2 today.
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Post by ednkris on Aug 15, 2018 21:50:23 GMT -5
Pure speculation...correction wishful thinking
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 16, 2018 0:27:02 GMT -5
Pure speculation...correction wishful thinking not following you. what do you think i am wishing?
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Post by ednkris on Aug 16, 2018 5:11:23 GMT -5
I love watching the videos on it...waking up everyday knowing Trump is president and Hillary lost, is like Christmas morning everyday will you still be watching these videos after he crashes and burns? This is wishful thinking
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 16, 2018 10:18:49 GMT -5
will you still be watching these videos after he crashes and burns? This is wishful thinking no. this is tit for tat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 12:40:58 GMT -5
I pasted the bolded into my personal notes. Going by your 3 month preview in 2014 and 2016, Lets just say my faith in your predictions is wavering a bit.We'll see in three months. your memory of those must be different than mine. in 2014, i predicted that Democrats would lose control of both the House and Senate. in 2016, my last post stated that the presidential race was too close to call.
if you recollection is different, or if there is something OTHER than the above that is shaking your confidence in me, please state why, and provide any evidence, if you can. edit: i am maintaining the odds in the bolded post, as of today. be sure to check back in for regular updates, or you might miss any last minute changes! edit2: strike that. i put the odds of the GOP keeping the Senate at 5:2 today.
I did say your 3 month preview. You bolded it. I'm lousy in the prediction department. Just want to see how it pans out in the end. Who knows who's face is going to get rubbed in it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 12:42:17 GMT -5
Does that happen here ?
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 16, 2018 13:22:02 GMT -5
your memory of those must be different than mine. in 2014, i predicted that Democrats would lose control of both the House and Senate. in 2016, my last post stated that the presidential race was too close to call.
if you recollection is different, or if there is something OTHER than the above that is shaking your confidence in me, please state why, and provide any evidence, if you can. edit: i am maintaining the odds in the bolded post, as of today. be sure to check back in for regular updates, or you might miss any last minute changes! edit2: strike that. i put the odds of the GOP keeping the Senate at 5:2 today.
I did say your 3 month preview. You bolded it. I'm lousy in the prediction department. Just want to see how it pans out in the end. Who knows who's face is going to get rubbed in it. I think the only people whose faces will get rubbed in it are those who insist they are 100% certain we will either see a red wave and the total destruction of the democratic party or that say they are 100% certain we will have a blue wave that will usher in a socialist utopia, crushing the GOP for ever.
Most of us are smart enough to say no one really knows until it happens.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 16, 2018 15:48:54 GMT -5
your memory of those must be different than mine. in 2014, i predicted that Democrats would lose control of both the House and Senate. in 2016, my last post stated that the presidential race was too close to call.
if you recollection is different, or if there is something OTHER than the above that is shaking your confidence in me, please state why, and provide any evidence, if you can. edit: i am maintaining the odds in the bolded post, as of today. be sure to check back in for regular updates, or you might miss any last minute changes! edit2: strike that. i put the odds of the GOP keeping the Senate at 5:2 today.
I did say your 3 month preview. You bolded it. I'm lousy in the prediction department. Just want to see how it pans out in the end. Who knows who's face is going to get rubbed in it. i feel pretty confident this time. general predictions are easier than seat counts, by a wide margin. this prediction is actually pretty favorable to the GOP. losing the house, for example does NOT stop Trump from packing the Supreme Court, nor does it get him removed from office. in other words, if i were still a Republican, i would be pretty happy if what i have predicted comes to pass.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 16, 2018 15:53:59 GMT -5
I did say your 3 month preview. You bolded it. I'm lousy in the prediction department. Just want to see how it pans out in the end. Who knows who's face is going to get rubbed in it. I think the only people whose faces will get rubbed in it are those who insist they are 100% certain we will either see a red wave and the total destruction of the democratic party or that say they are 100% certain we will have a blue wave that will usher in a socialist utopia, crushing the GOP for ever.
Most of us are smart enough to say no one really knows until it happens.
precisely right. saying that the GOP has a 71% chance of maintaining control of the Senate is WAY different than saying they have a 95% chance of maintaining the Senate. it is also way different than saying they have a 54% chance of maintaining the Senate. these are betting odds. in other words, if someone wanted to take EITHER side of this bet, i would do that. i would take the GOP to win, and get $2 on a $7 bet. if i took the other side of the bet, i would expect to get $5. i don't give a crap who wins, honestly. i am out of here in two years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 13:27:20 GMT -5
I did say your 3 month preview. You bolded it. I'm lousy in the prediction department. Just want to see how it pans out in the end. Who knows who's face is going to get rubbed in it. I think the only people whose faces will get rubbed in it are those who insist they are 100% certain we will either see a red wave and the total destruction of the democratic party or that say they are 100% certain we will have a blue wave that will usher in a socialist utopia, crushing the GOP for ever.
Most of us are smart enough to say no one really knows until it happens.
The only posts I've seen where people claim to be 100% certain, is the ones that a poster was obviously trolling/baiting. Anyone who posts an absolute, usually gets hung out to dry in short order.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 17, 2018 18:31:12 GMT -5
I think the only people whose faces will get rubbed in it are those who insist they are 100% certain we will either see a red wave and the total destruction of the democratic party or that say they are 100% certain we will have a blue wave that will usher in a socialist utopia, crushing the GOP for ever.
Most of us are smart enough to say no one really knows until it happens.
The only posts I've seen where people claim to be 100% certain, is the ones that a poster was obviously trolling/baiting. Anyone who posts an absolute, usually gets hung out to dry in short order. and then there are celebrated posters with nearly 25,000 posts of just such bile.
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Post by dezii on Aug 18, 2018 1:11:24 GMT -5
The only posts I've seen where people claim to be 100% certain, is the ones that a poster was obviously trolling/baiting. Anyone who posts an absolute, usually gets hung out to dry in short order. and then there are celebrated posters with nearly 25,000 posts of just such bile. Especially since Paul [sigh] proved how wrong most of us where and how few[including the winner] there were of those who guessed the correct outcome. It doesn't mean correct results for the country followed...just how unpredictable it is to post in absolutes...so agree with u.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 18, 2018 12:57:03 GMT -5
and then there are celebrated posters with nearly 25,000 posts of just such bile. Especially since Paul [sigh] proved how wrong most of us where and how few[including the winner] there were of those who guessed the correct outcome. It doesn't mean correct results for the country followed...just how unpredictable it is to post in absolutes...so agree with u. He also said don't doubt him ever because Mitt Romney was going to win by a landslide. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Paul is like the old women who say they can predict the sex of your baby with an accuracy rate of 50%.
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Post by dezii on Aug 18, 2018 15:24:41 GMT -5
Especially since Paul [sigh] proved how wrong most of us where and how few[including the winner] there were of those who guessed the correct outcome. It doesn't mean correct results for the country followed...just how unpredictable it is to post in absolutes...so agree with u. He also said don't doubt him ever because Mitt Romney was going to win by a landslide. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Paul is like the old women who say they can predict the sex of your baby with an accuracy rate of 50%. Oh he said lots of things...hit the jack pot on one...rest of his ideas......eeehhhh….
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 18, 2018 17:31:09 GMT -5
Let's get back on topic, please. Another poster is NOT the topic. Thanks.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2018 11:32:36 GMT -5
i agree with some of this, but not all of it. for example, i think this conclusion is CORRECT: “Right now I think this election looks like a toss-up,” Salvanto said to the Post. “We see a Democrat pickup in the House of Representatives in the 20-odd seat range, but Republicans could certainly hold on to the House.” this is WHY i am rating the chances of the GOP holding on to the House GREATER than their chance of LOSING THE SENATE.
now, mind you, this guy might also be utterly wrong. there is actually no way of knowing. and that is because there are 75 days to go, and a lot can happen. that having been said, i don't think "doubtful" is the right word. that means "unlikely" in common parlance. i think "questionable" might be a better word. it is more likely to happen than not happen, imo- but that is just based on the last 10 or so midterms.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2018 11:52:12 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: The CBS News Battleground Tracker has a panel of 5,700 registered voters, with the majority in the districts that are highly contested. That poll indicates that few House seats will change parties in November, with the GOP likely holding its majority in the House. what it indicates is that about 2 dozen seats will flip AND ANOTHER 2 DOZEN ARE TOO CLOSE TO CALL. an impartial, cold view of the situation would conclude that half of the tossups will go GOP, and half will go Democrat, which would cede control of the House to Dems.
having said all of this, i think this article should be BELIEVED. the GOP has a REAL CHANCE of keeping the House, and Democrats should not "coast to the finish" like they did in 2016.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 19, 2018 12:49:30 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: The CBS News Battleground Tracker has a panel of 5,700 registered voters, with the majority in the districts that are highly contested. That poll indicates that few House seats will change parties in November, with the GOP likely holding its majority in the House. ...
CBS News August 19, 2018, 12:56 PM: Democrats in stronger position to take the House: CBS News Battleground Tracker
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2018 13:06:30 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: The CBS News Battleground Tracker has a panel of 5,700 registered voters, with the majority in the districts that are highly contested. That poll indicates that few House seats will change parties in November, with the GOP likely holding its majority in the House. ...
CBS News August 19, 2018, 12:56 PM: Democrats in stronger position to take the House: CBS News Battleground Trackerthat sounds more like it. thanks, bills.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 19, 2018 13:13:30 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: ... Yahoo Entertainment isn't my first choice for political information. To be honest, it isn't even in my top 2000.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 19, 2018 13:36:11 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: ... Yahoo Entertainment isn't my first choice for political information. To be honest, it isn't even in my top 2000. i knew nothing about it before today, and now i know ONE thing.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 19, 2018 14:04:34 GMT -5
incidentally, THIS statement is actually completely false: The CBS News Battleground Tracker has a panel of 5,700 registered voters, with the majority in the districts that are highly contested. That poll indicates that few House seats will change parties in November, with the GOP likely holding its majority in the House. ...
CBS News August 19, 2018, 12:56 PM: Democrats in stronger position to take the House: CBS News Battleground TrackerBills, did you click on the link I posted? It was also from CBS
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 19, 2018 14:07:08 GMT -5
I got a laugh out of that, I guess it depends on who you listen to from CBS.
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