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Post by straydog on Mar 30, 2011 4:36:36 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12860407Shanna Bukharri, a Pakistani Muslim born in the UK, is vying to be the first Muslim to represent the UK in the Miss Universe Pageant. I actually hope that they pick her and then she goes on to win and becomes the first Muslim Miss Universe. IMHO, that would cause the extremists to lose a lot of credibility. I just hope that they provide enough protection for her over there, she is going to need it!
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 30, 2011 6:09:07 GMT -5
She is an attractive lady...
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Post by handyman2 on Mar 30, 2011 7:57:03 GMT -5
I wonder how the Muslims will react when she puts on a bathing suit during the competition. They will probably say she is not really a muslim. Seems like I remember a lady that was a muslim ran in a beauty contest a few years back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 7:59:38 GMT -5
She is an attractive lady... You couldn't handle a hot exotic woman like that!
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 30, 2011 8:00:48 GMT -5
You couldn't handle a hot exotic woman like that!I'm feeling the love Arch....
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 30, 2011 8:09:45 GMT -5
I wonder how the Muslims will react when she puts on a bathing suit during the competition. They will probably say she is not really a muslim. Seems like I remember a lady that was a muslim ran in a beauty contest a few years back. She's already an apostate to the true believer muslims, and being muslim- Christians believe she's headed for the hot place, too. The difference is that the Christians won't issue orders to behead her.
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 30, 2011 8:26:35 GMT -5
They will probably say she is not really a muslim. To radical islamists, she would be considered an infidel just as much as us non-muslims. Of course, There are also radical christians that wouldn't consider be a true christian for not following christian law such as abstinence before marriage, using god's name in vain, using birth control, getting divorced, not capitalizing the g in god (drives my dear sis nuts and I love it), etc... Last year's Miss USA was a muslim woman. She became the target of a lot of pathetic comments on the old boards too....and I didn't get that. If they follow strict muslim law, they get lambasted. If they become westernized and win a beauty pageant, they get lambasted.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 8:28:56 GMT -5
They will probably say she is not really a muslim. To radical islamists, she would be considered an infidel just as much as us non-muslims. Of course, There are also radical christians that wouldn't consider be a true christian for not following christian law such as abstinence before marriage, using god's name in vain, using birth control, getting divorced, not capitalizing the g in god (drives my dear sis nuts and I love it), etc... Last year's Miss USA was a muslim woman. She became the target of a lot of pathetic comments on the old boards too....and I didn't get that. If they follow strict muslim law, they get lambasted. If they become westernized and win a beauty pageant, they get lambasted. Lots of people do not like Muslims these days.
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 30, 2011 8:39:59 GMT -5
Lots of people do not like Muslims these days. I'm an equal opportunity asshole. I don't like radicals...whether they're muslim, catholic, jewish, baptist, and on and on and on..... I have much better things to do than waste a lot of time and energy on hating.
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 30, 2011 10:35:17 GMT -5
and being muslim- Christians believe she's headed for the hot place, too. Only self-righteous 'Christians' heading that way themselves (if there was such a place) think like that.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 30, 2011 10:53:23 GMT -5
If you're a Christian you believe that through one man, Adam, we were all made sinful, and through one man, Christ Our Lord, we are made righteous. Believers go to Heaven, unbelievers go to hell. It's an inescapable tenant of Christianity. Christians that don't believe this are not Christians.
And since through one man, Jesus Christ, we are made righteous-- Christianity is the ONE religion that doesn't believe we are, should be, or even can be "self-righteous". That's the whole point of Christianity: For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. -- Ephesians 2:8 - 10
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 30, 2011 12:05:19 GMT -5
Believers go to Heaven, unbelievers go to hell. It's an inescapable tenant of Christianity. Christians that don't believe this are not Christians. And since through one man, Jesus Christ, we are made righteous-- Christianity is the ONE religion that doesn't believe we are, should be, or even can be "self-righteous". That's the whole point of Christianity That's a giant load of shit. All Christians do not believe they are the sole inheritors of eternal salvation,and, all Christians do not believe in hell either. No one knows God or what lies ahead- and that includes every religion and person on this planet. The arrogance of these types of 'Christians' is astounding, to self-proclaim themselves as the chosen ones while the rest of the world gets eternal damnation. I love Rowan Atkinson's bit- a line of people at the gates of hell and he is saying sorry everyone, but it was the Mormons that had it right. Are they in your hell too with the Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.? Doesn't the idea of hell conflict with a loving God? Is your God a sadist or maybe a fan of torture porn? Isn't an eternity of torture a bit extreme for a few sins in life? Don't even get me started on this.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 30, 2011 12:29:28 GMT -5
God doesn't send anyone to hell, but if you want to go- He cannot stop you. Free will.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 12:30:37 GMT -5
Praise Jesus and Praise Allah! May they continue to bless me.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 30, 2011 12:30:34 GMT -5
Hell was not created for human beings. Hell was created for satan and his angels. If human beings reject God, and if they blaspheme the Holy Spirit and deny Christ is Lord, then they can go if they so choose.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 30, 2011 12:31:59 GMT -5
Hell was not created for human beings. Hell was created for satan and his angels. If human beings reject God, and if they blaspheme the Holy Spirit and deny Christ is Lord, then they can go if they so choose. Based on the theory you believe. This is not a fact.
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Post by jkapp on Mar 30, 2011 12:43:00 GMT -5
>>That's a giant load of shit. All Christians do not believe they are the sole inheritors of eternal salvation,and, all Christians do not believe in hell either. No one knows God or what lies ahead- and that includes every religion and person on this planet. The arrogance of these types of 'Christians' is astounding, to self-proclaim themselves as the chosen ones while the rest of the world gets eternal damnation<<
Maybe a couple sects believe that (no one is considered "chosen" or "sole inheritors" in most Christian faiths) - but most of Christianity is founded upon ANYONE being able to escape the path to hell by accepting Jesus Christ as their savior; believing that Jesus died for the forgiveness of your sins.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 30, 2011 12:48:02 GMT -5
Let's not forget the power of salvation through repentance. It is available to everyone and anyone who wants it...
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Post by handyman2 on Mar 30, 2011 12:52:33 GMT -5
Well we have had our sermon for the day. All started with a beauty queen.
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 30, 2011 12:55:43 GMT -5
Let's see- the only way to avoid eternal hell is to follow one particular religion- or actually an offshoot of a particular religion that believes Christ is the way. Everyone else is damned. Yep- that's pretty damn arrogant. I feel for all of those Jews- first the holocaust and hell on Earth, and now they're in the real hell-bummer. Guess they should have thought twice about Jesus- oh well, not God's problem- in you go.
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Post by jkapp on Mar 30, 2011 13:29:28 GMT -5
Let's see- the only way to avoid eternal hell is to follow one particular religion- or actually an offshoot of a particular religion that believes Christ is the way. Everyone else is damned. Yep- that's pretty damn arrogant. I feel for all of those Jews- first the holocaust and hell on Earth, and now they're in the real hell-bummer. Guess they should have thought twice about Jesus- oh well, not God's problem- in you go. You know as many times as I've been to church, at no time was it ever mentioned that Jews were all going to hell....they have just as much opportunity for repentance everyone else. Now, most sermons I've heard also tend to deal with ones OWN path and faith...not so much in condemning anyone else. But I guess you had to be there to know
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 30, 2011 13:42:21 GMT -5
Let's see- the only way to avoid eternal hell is to follow one particular religion- or actually an offshoot of a particular religion that believes Christ is the way. Everyone else is damned. Yep- that's pretty damn arrogant. I feel for all of those Jews- first the holocaust and hell on Earth, and now they're in the real hell-bummer. Guess they should have thought twice about Jesus- oh well, not God's problem- in you go. All religion requires arrogance to get people to believe in something that cannot be proven....no earth shattering news here.
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 30, 2011 13:44:53 GMT -5
Well we have had our sermon for the day. All started with a beauty queen. And a muslim beauty queen at that, praise the lord..... Kumbaya anyone??
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 30, 2011 13:47:18 GMT -5
You know as many times as I've been to church, at no time was it ever mentioned that Jews were all going to hell....they have just as much opportunity for repentance everyone else. Now, most sermons I've heard also tend to deal with ones OWN path and faith...not so much in condemning anyone else. But I guess you had to be there to know Do you mean by repentance dropping their faith and converting to Christianity or you think they are safe through a combination of their own faith, works, and deeds? The fundamentalists are clear- everyone except them are going to hell. I am appalled that people think that way. This all started with the Muslims will burn in hell statement just because they are Muslims, which I find offensive.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Mar 30, 2011 16:29:08 GMT -5
Or ... "And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19 www.daylightatheism.org/2007/11/iron-chariots.htmlSo, to get into Heaven, just go there in an iron chariot, and there'd be nothing God could do to stop you. Wow, isn't it silly for an all-powerful being who made everything to have such an easily made form of Kryptonite? I wonder if Iron Man can just fly right in.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 30, 2011 16:41:10 GMT -5
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19 www.daylightatheism.org/2007/11/iron-chariots.html
So, to get into Heaven, just go there in an iron chariot, and there'd be nothing God could do to stop you. Wow, isn't it silly for an all-powerful being who made everything to have such an easily made form of Kryptonite? I wonder if Iron Man can just fly right in. [/quote][/color] Excuse me for asking Ma'am but what does this have to do with a Muslim Beauty Contestant taking the heat by her fellow Muslims??? Where is the link or connection to this thread in all due respect I believe we are talking about beautiful ladies so maybe in your roaming around you landed on the wrong thread again..
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Post by Angel! on Mar 30, 2011 16:47:42 GMT -5
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19 www.daylightatheism.org/2007/11/iron-chariots.html
So, to get into Heaven, just go there in an iron chariot, and there'd be nothing God could do to stop you. Wow, isn't it silly for an all-powerful being who made everything to have such an easily made form of Kryptonite? I wonder if Iron Man can just fly right in. Excuse me for asking Ma'am but what does this have to do with a Muslim Beauty Contestant taking the heat by her fellow Muslims??? Where is the link or connection to this thread in all due respect I believe we are talking about beautiful ladies so maybe in your roaming around you landed on the wrong thread again.. Ummm....If PBP is allowed to quote biblical text, then I think mkitty should have the same right. The conversation turned a long time ago when PBP made the claim that christians believe she is headed for hell.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 30, 2011 16:54:11 GMT -5
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." Judges 1:19 www.daylightatheism.org/2007/11/iron-chariots.html
So, to get into Heaven, just go there in an iron chariot, and there'd be nothing God could do to stop you. Wow, isn't it silly for an all-powerful being who made everything to have such an easily made form of Kryptonite? I wonder if Iron Man can just fly right in. Excuse me for asking Ma'am but what does this have to do with a Muslim Beauty Contestant taking the heat by her fellow Muslims??? Where is the link or connection to this thread in all due respect I believe we are talking about beautiful ladies so maybe in your roaming around you landed on the wrong thread again.. Ummm....If PBP is allowed to quote biblical text, then I think mkitty should have the same right. The conversation turned a long time ago when PBP made the claim that christians believe she is headed for hell. So we got off topic again...sorry I was just checking out all the pictures of the Muslim beauty and wondered why our resident beauties didn't want to talk about her...jealous or envy maybe??
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Post by ugonow on Mar 30, 2011 16:59:52 GMT -5
I'm worried about my church being shut down by the greedy union communist/... greedy slave owners . [take your pick]. I hold service in my garage every Sunday for neighbors during NFL season. Seems a shame all that holy water might go to waste on something else.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 30, 2011 17:09:42 GMT -5
I'm worried about my church being shut down by the greedy union communist/... greedy slave owners . [take your pick]. I hold service in my garage every Sunday for neighbors during NFL season. Seems a shame all that holy water might go to waste on something else. LMAO!
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