Washington Post's winners and losers, 2017

[Value Buy]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-2017-the-year-in-politics/ar-BBHJpl4?li=BBnb7Kz

I do not have much of an argument against their choices, other than two things.

1. They left their nemesis off the winner's list.
LMAO, they did not have the balls to list Trump as a winner in 2017.
He survived not getting forced to resign over Russia collusion which they themselves pushed as a theme for the entire year.
2. Failed to list their selves as a loser for failing to defeat the President in 2017.
Other than that, a pretty good list.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 1, 2018 9:13:58 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-2017-the-year-in-politics/ar-BBHJpl4?li=BBnb7Kz

I do not have much of an argument against their choices, other than two things.

1. They left their nemesis off the winner's list.
LMAO, they did not have the balls to list Trump as a winner in 2017.
He survived not getting forced to resign over Russia collusion which they themselves pushed as a theme for the entire year.
2. Failed to list their selves as a loser for failing to defeat the President in 2017.
Other than that, a pretty good list.

Are you another one who believes investigations and their solvings take as long as a 60 minuted crime drama?

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 9:13:58 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/winners-and-losers-from-2017-the-year-in-politics/ar-BBHJpl4?li=BBnb7Kz

I do not have much of an argument against their choices, other than two things.

1. They left their nemesis off the winner's list.
LMAO, they did not have the balls to list Trump as a winner in 2017.
He survived not getting forced to resign over Russia collusion which they themselves pushed as a theme for the entire year.
2. Failed to list their selves as a loser for failing to defeat the President in 2017.
Other than that, a pretty good list.

Investigation not over yet is it, we'll have to wait for the conclusion...and your slavish gushing over a rapest and womanizing  wimp grabber , his words and no not locker room talk, is a wonder and remarkable but hey, your right so go for it.[LOL ..... ..... ...... ]

Man is one of the least admired and liked POTUS in our country's history and not yet a year in office...definitely relegates him as a loser in 2017...no matter what his mob of followers feel..

As far as their, Times,  wishing him to resign...not sure of that...all they do is report the news...with commentary when they feel it's needed...

That the Donald calls that and any criticism of himself and his actions as fake news is just a cowards way of not accepting criticism and just a easy way of not answering doubts and criticism...just call it "fake news"...let his mob accept that as his defense...and he keeps his 35% acceptance and 65 % disapproval ratings...[sigh]

[OldCoyote]

So, Is the Investigation going to continue long after Thump is re-elected in 2020?

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 11:27:13 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

So, Is the Investigation going to continue long after Thump is re-elected in 2020?

I am sure it's going to be finished by this year and your comment made just to get under the skin of some shows how divisive the man is as POTUS and polarizing to the country's population. Possible u get a kick out of seeing the country's population split into two camps...I don't. It means we are on our way to becoming a second rate power...A powerful militarily we have but to what avail...can't really use it in todays world as a influence or a hammer...just not done..it's passe.  As far as a country that's looked up to for guidance and emulated, those days seem to have been passed over, and all within less then a year.

Did we get benefits by being the leader of the free world? Absolutly...but now we are really looked upon as a joke because of the antics of this man...Could he be elected to a second term? Of course...Will he? Lordy I hope not...for my sake, my kids and grandkids sake...hell even for your sake and other misguided folks...his base...

His favorite quotes.."Trust me"....as more and more of his base lose benefits..social services needed badly by his family...question has to be asked...why.  Example....all those carrier jobs he supposedly saved by getting involved and patted himself on his back for...they are all back in Mexico...USA plants closed.

"Make America Great.."When wasn't it great.."Market is up..."...what goes up also goes down...it will retreat...that is a given...guess he'll blame Obama, Hillery for that one...

"Fake news"..any news that does not kiss up to him...kiss his butt...don't rave about how great he is, ...any news  that offers a criticism of him...whether large or small...can go on and on...his constany lies as if its something to be proud of...Would u be friends with some one who u knew lied as much as this man does...proven lies on almost all things..? Of course u wouldn't no matter what u said as that is not important to u. Of course it is...

This is the character u have hitched your wagon too.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 1, 2018 11:27:13 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

So, Is the Investigation going to continue long after Thump is re-elected in 2020?

didn't stop Benghazi.  nor did it stop WhiteWater.  didn't stop Watergate.

why should it stop this? 

[djAdvocate]

Jan 1, 2018 14:28:27 GMT -5 dezii said:

This is the character u have hitched your wagon too.

shouldn't surprise you.  this is the same poster than cheered the idea of the Russians rigging the election.

[Rob Base 2.0]

Trump 2020

[Value Buy]

Yes, so far not much added to the discussion other than Dezi is sure it will be over this year, and Tennesseer hopes it is going for another eight years, so we do have a slight variance to argue about. 

[Tennesseer]

Jan 1, 2018 16:29:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes, so far not much added to the discussion other than Dezi is sure it will be over this year, and Tennesseer hopes it is going for another eight years, so we do have a slight variance to argue about. 

Don't know where you got that shitty idea from. I want the investigation over with by the end of the year and trump out of here.

[b2r]

[Tennesseer]

[Gardening Grandma]

The only way for 2018 to be a great year for America would be to get rid of the sexual assaulter in the Oval Office.  Impeachment, the 25th ammendment or a heart attack. 

The biggest losers of 2017 are his fan club.

[thyme4change]

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 17:19:21 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 1, 2018 16:29:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes, so far not much added to the discussion other than Dezi is sure it will be over this year, and Tennesseer hopes it is going for another eight years, so we do have a slight variance to argue about. 

Don't know where you got that shitty idea from. I want the investigation over with by the end of the year and Trump out of here.

In my case, naturally or not...it's the results that is important...

I NEVER in all my long years...first national presidential election was Kennedy...have voiced or felt that way. Never has seen nation so split to the point I can understand the disdain and hatred that seemed to have occurred  back in the 1860's that led to more Americans dying in a conflict then in any before or since right up to the present time with all our modern weapons..can see it almost happening today, and if anyone things that is a ok happening, suggest some long time out in a corner somewhere.

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

The country is aleady a mess.   And we can’t make decisions based on fear of what his thugs might do

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

If it's done legally...25th amendment...for cause...believe country will survive..

[zibazinski]

Do you think so? I tend to think it’s only a certain element who act insane when they don’t get their way. I don’t care if he does. Pence is there, it’s not like hillary is going to jump in the office. I survived obama, I can survive trump. I’m not sure the country could have survived hillary but thankfully I’ll never have to worry.

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 16:29:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes, so far not much added to the discussion other than Dezi is sure it will be over this year, and Tennesseer hopes it is going for another eight years, so we do have a slight variance to argue about. 

Again the big lie....because Value says it's so does not make it so...seems takes after his chief guru...believe discussion for many who took part  a lot was added too...now if it's all been said we can move on....or not.

[billisonboard]

Jan 1, 2018 19:02:41 GMT -5 dezii said:

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

If it's done legally...25th amendment...for cause...believe country will survive..

If it is done illegally, there should be riots. I think a 25th Amendment removal would cause riots. If there were impeachment committee hearings, House debate, impeachment vote taken and charges approved, a Senate trial, a Senate 2/3rds vote, and removal, I think there would be only minor protests.

[dezii]

Jan 1, 2018 19:03:06 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Do you think so? I tend to think it’s only a certain element who act insane when they don’t get their way. I don’t care if he does. Pence is there, it’s not like hillary is going to jump in the office. I survived obama, I can survive Trump. I’m not sure the country could have survived hillary but thankfully I’ll never have to worry.

It's moot...she lost...has moved on ...but how can u say that after observing this first year and his doings and sayings..

So u didn't like her...fine , but to compare the two...it's just u having something to blabber about..

Would she have pulled out of Paris accords...would she have needled the N Korean not quite together  leader with his nuclear weapons and delivery system...as if even one exchange would have been acceptable and a possible escalation might be in the cards as a result...like it would just be a little blow up..our allies, 25 million over the border, Japan not even over the horizon plus accepting fall out by Russia and China and reply oops would cover it..?  No .She would not have pushed him...

U think it shows strength...u don't have a clue..

Would she have handed over leadership to others like our Donald has? No...and was not necessary.

Would she had screwed up middle East peace possibilities between the two parties as he did...plus p off our Arab allies as he has done, over Jerusalem...leaving no out for our friends and allies..No....

Would we have had her putting us through the agony of listening to his self congratulating himself on any and all things including his morning as the best and greatest what ever...and having us sit through his cabinet being marched out there around the table voicing praise...for nothing really...No.

Would she have acted like the highly intoxicated guy at the end of the bar who comes out with all the solutions of the countries and world problems..?  No

[zibazinski]

Well you’re entitled to your opinion. Rehashing over has beens gets old.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

So if trump broke our laws we just let him be?

[Value Buy]

Jan 1, 2018 20:26:42 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

So if Trump broke our laws we just let him be?

All we have read lately involves the FBI fabricating a warrant request with false data, the DNC involve in buying fake news and distributing it, and Hillary still passed on classified material from and to, unprotected computers.

[OldCoyote]

Did you notice how to one side of this discussion completely missed the classified emails on Weiners computer.

[OldCoyote]

Jan 1, 2018 14:28:27 GMT -5 dezii said:

Jan 1, 2018 11:27:13 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

So, Is the Investigation going to continue long after Thump is re-elected in 2020?

I am sure it's going to be finished by this year and your comment made just to get under the skin of some shows how divisive the man is as POTUS and polarizing to the country's population. Possible u get a kick out of seeing the country's population split into two camps...I don't. It means we are on our way to becoming a second rate power...A powerful militarily we have but to what avail...can't really use it in todays world as a influence or a hammer...just not done..it's passe.  As far as a country that's looked up to for guidance and emulated, those days seem to have been passed over, and all within less then a year.

Did we get benefits by being the leader of the free world? Absolutly...but now we are really looked upon as a joke because of the antics of this man...Could he be elected to a second term? Of course...Will he? Lordy I hope not...for my sake, my kids and grandkids sake...hell even for your sake and other misguided folks...his base...

His favorite quotes.."Trust me"....as more and more of his base lose benefits..social services needed badly by his family...question has to be asked...why.  Example....all those carrier jobs he supposedly saved by getting involved and patted himself on his back for...they are all back in Mexico...USA plants closed.

"Make America Great.."When wasn't it great.."Market is up..."...what goes up also goes down...it will retreat...that is a given...guess he'll blame Obama, Hillery for that one...

"Fake news"..any news that does not kiss up to him...kiss his butt...don't rave about how great he is, ...any news  that offers a criticism of him...whether large or small...can go on and on...his constany lies as if its something to be proud of...Would u be friends with some one who u knew lied as much as this man does...proven lies on almost all things..? Of course u wouldn't no matter what u said as that is not important to u. Of course it is...

This is the character u have hitched your wagon too.

Still better than Clinton!

[Deleted]

Jan 1, 2018 19:01:32 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

The country is aleady a mess.   And we can’t make decisions based on fear of what his thugs might do

Can we make them on what we fear the religious zealot Mike Pence will do if/when he replaces Trump?

[dezii]

Jan 2, 2018 0:13:37 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Jan 1, 2018 14:28:27 GMT -5 dezii said:

I am sure it's going to be finished by this year and your comment made just to get under the skin of some shows how divisive the man is as POTUS and polarizing to the country's population. Possible u get a kick out of seeing the country's population split into two camps...I don't. It means we are on our way to becoming a second rate power...A powerful militarily we have but to what avail...can't really use it in todays world as a influence or a hammer...just not done..it's passe.  As far as a country that's looked up to for guidance and emulated, those days seem to have been passed over, and all within less then a year.

Did we get benefits by being the leader of the free world? Absolutly...but now we are really looked upon as a joke because of the antics of this man...Could he be elected to a second term? Of course...Will he? Lordy I hope not...for my sake, my kids and grandkids sake...hell even for your sake and other misguided folks...his base...

His favorite quotes.."Trust me"....as more and more of his base lose benefits..social services needed badly by his family...question has to be asked...why.  Example....all those carrier jobs he supposedly saved by getting involved and patted himself on his back for...they are all back in Mexico...USA plants closed.

"Make America Great.."When wasn't it great.."Market is up..."...what goes up also goes down...it will retreat...that is a given...guess he'll blame Obama, Hillery for that one...

"Fake news"..any news that does not kiss up to him...kiss his butt...don't rave about how great he is, ...any news  that offers a criticism of him...whether large or small...can go on and on...his constany lies as if its something to be proud of...Would u be friends with some one who u knew lied as much as this man does...proven lies on almost all things..? Of course u wouldn't no matter what u said as that is not important to u. Of course it is...

This is the character u have hitched your wagon too.

Still better than Clinton!

"and your comment made just to get under the skin of some shows how divisive the man is as POTUS and polarizing to the country's population."

...for u I guess so...[sad]

[weltschmerz]

Jan 1, 2018 18:58:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If he gets removed against his will, there will be riots and our country will be a mess.

...as opposed to what?
There are already riots and your country IS a mess under his (cough, cough) leadership.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 1, 2018 22:19:47 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 1, 2018 20:26:42 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

So if Trump broke our laws we just let him be?

All we have read lately involves the FBI fabricating a warrant request with false data, the DNC involve in buying fake news and distributing it, and Hillary still passed on classified material from and to, unprotected computers.

Your reply has zero to do with my question. Reading comprehension problem due to the cold?