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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 3, 2018 18:37:13 GMT -5
That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. Go fly yourself to happiness then. I'm not stopping you.  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2018 18:41:30 GMT -5
Whatever. They eat their own poop, and they DON'T "chew the cud".
Next, you'll be telling me that human beings can live inside of whales. And that donkeys can talk.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 3, 2018 18:59:27 GMT -5
Whatever. They eat their own poop, and they DON'T "chew the cud". I can't make it any clearer than the author of that article. Whatever. They eat their own poop, and they DON'T "chew the cud". Next, you'll be telling me that human beings can live inside of whales. And that donkeys can talk. It was a specially prepared fish, not a whale. And of all the supernatural miracles in the Bible, an ass speaking to Balaam in a man's voice (which has a very specific symbolism, hence the miracle) is among the most trivial. I'm not among the cohort who believes the supernatural events in the Bible are apocryphal or figurative (many Christians do, of course). I believe God has the power to literally part seas, grant speech to animals, send fire down from heaven, heal illness, delay the sunset, and effect any kind of miracle, sign, or symbol He wants to. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2018 19:25:25 GMT -5
The whale that swallowed up Jonah was a "specially prepared fish?" Like marinated herring or gefilte fish?
Alrighty, then.
Believe in whatever magic or superstition you want. I'll stick with facts, not fairy tales.
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Post by mroped on Jan 3, 2018 19:53:28 GMT -5
---------------- I too, had a crisis of faith, a desertion of my Russian Orthodox upbringing. I too, studied for thousands of hours, went to bible study, went to churches of different denominations, then looked into everything from Buddhism to Jews For Jesus. Studied all their tenets and texts. I wanted God to call me, because without my faith, I felt I was operating without a safety net. God most certainly did not call me. Instead, he pushed me straight into the arms of Secular Humanism. That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. With the exception of Romanian Orthodox, everything else describes me down to a T but the way you put it, I just love it!😀 |
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2018 19:57:04 GMT -5
---------------- I too, had a crisis of faith, a desertion of my Russian Orthodox upbringing. I too, studied for thousands of hours, went to bible study, went to churches of different denominations, then looked into everything from Buddhism to Jews For Jesus. Studied all their tenets and texts. I wanted God to call me, because without my faith, I felt I was operating without a safety net. God most certainly did not call me. Instead, he pushed me straight into the arms of Secular Humanism. That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. With the exception of Romanian Orthodox, everything else describes me down to a T but the way you put it, I just love it!😀 Thank you. I DID feel like a tightrope walker without a safety net at first. It took me a while to realize I could fly. |
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 3, 2018 20:34:46 GMT -5
oh, I thought this was going to be about designer jeans. Carry on. Ha ha ha ha!!!! Wouldn't it be trippy if Virgil was a True Religion guy? Now that would alter my perception! |
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 3, 2018 20:35:45 GMT -5
---------------- I too, had a crisis of faith, a desertion of my Russian Orthodox upbringing. I too, studied for thousands of hours, went to bible study, went to churches of different denominations, then looked into everything from Buddhism to Jews For Jesus. Studied all their tenets and texts. I wanted God to call me, because without my faith, I felt I was operating without a safety net. God most certainly did not call me. Instead, he pushed me straight into the arms of Secular Humanism. That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. With the exception of Romanian Orthodox, everything else describes me down to a T but the way you put it, I just love it!😀 My experience was similar. |
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2018 21:13:07 GMT -5
That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. Go fly yourself to happiness then. I'm not stopping you. Stop telling her she's wrong. |
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2018 21:14:48 GMT -5
With the exception of Romanian Orthodox, everything else describes me down to a T but the way you put it, I just love it!😀 My experience was similar. Me too |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:07:31 GMT -5
Ok, you’re right, Ishmael was Isaac’s half brother so Israel’s uncle. Here is the kicker: why did God turn on his word? He told Abraham that he would make his first born the father of his people but later on turns to “I will make him the father of a great nation...” or something of the sorts. “ His hand will be against everybody and everybody’s hand will be against him”. Or maybe your version of the Bible doesn’t talk about that? Regardless of what people think on who’s religion is the right one and so on I always thought on the whole story of the Bible with one question in mind: why did God choose the people of Israel? Why didn’t he choose the people of Gengis Khan? Or Eric The Red? What drove him to decide on that specific people?Because they were the ones that invented him? That's my guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 22:12:38 GMT -5
---------------- I too, had a crisis of faith, a desertion of my Russian Orthodox upbringing. I too, studied for thousands of hours, went to bible study, went to churches of different denominations, then looked into everything from Buddhism to Jews For Jesus. Studied all their tenets and texts. I wanted God to call me, because without my faith, I felt I was operating without a safety net. God most certainly did not call me. Instead, he pushed me straight into the arms of Secular Humanism. That's when I realized I did not NEED a safety net. I discovered that I had wings. With the exception of Romanian Orthodox, everything else describes me down to a T but the way you put it, I just love it!😀 Same here (with the same exception!) |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 3, 2018 22:31:24 GMT -5
Go fly yourself to happiness then. I'm not stopping you. Stop telling her she's wrong. Stop telling me to stop telling her she's wrong.  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2018 22:46:47 GMT -5
Well, that's odd. Virgil must be very special. God called him but he didn't call any of us, even when we needed it.
God must have been busy fixing football games.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jan 4, 2018 0:59:31 GMT -5
Suffice it to say there's nothing vague about the prohibition, and that part of treating others with kindness is instructing them in the Law of God, which is the Law of liberty. A law which the hyper-sexualized, secular Romans didn't like mind you. That was - of course - until Jesus returned (metaphysically) and the Romans who destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple "adopted" Christianity. This adoption - predictably - angered people who had followed Abrahamic teachings for thousands of years already, and eventually a man named Muhammad came along to set the word of the Messiah straight. However, after he passed, as all people do, Aisha got mad because the followers of Muhammad did as he did, not as he said; which was to live as the Messiah had said and love on another. (This is where the confusion of Islam is the religion of peace comes from...hey, very similar to Christianity in many people's minds now that I think of it...) Now, at this time we start the seesaw of wars that have ebbed and flowed which bring us to current times. Current times which see Abraham have many descendants and everything has been affected by the Messiah in one way or another. Not to go long here, but on the crisis of faith thing. I don't remember going to church until I was about eight. That ended when I was 13 because I was never forced to go. Yet through my love(OCD) of history and science (and probability/relatively) well, here I am. Interesting OP, VtL.  |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 4, 2018 10:08:37 GMT -5
Well, that's odd. Virgil must be very special. God called him but he didn't call any of us, even when we needed it. Perhaps He knew I'd become corrupt and evil beyond all salvation if He didn't call me immediately, but the same isn't true of any of you. It's certainly possible. As I stated before, scripture tells us those who are called are typically weak in the flesh. Nor are they called as though they were more righteous or virtuous than others, but by God's grace, that He might show mercy to the weakest of humanity as an example and powerful lesson. Paul tells the Philippians (Phil 2:3), "Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves." (AKJV). The ISV puts it, "Do not act out of selfish ambition or conceit, but with humility think of others as being better than yourselves." Hence, if I'm truly among those being called now, how can I believe I'm special or superior in some way? The only thing I should be is grateful. And I am.  |
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 4, 2018 14:25:32 GMT -5
Stop telling her she's wrong. Stop telling me to stop telling her she's wrong. Fight intelligently back there or I will turn this car around! |
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Post by mroped on Jan 4, 2018 20:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 4, 2018 20:41:44 GMT -5
I can't watch Facebook videos. I have a browser extension that disables all Facebook-related content for privacy reasons, and I don't circumvent it. Just FYI. Based on your description, I have a feeling I'd regret watching it anyway.  |
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Post by mroped on Jan 4, 2018 22:56:02 GMT -5
Maybe, maybe not!
it is a short video featuring Peter Graham whom is an authority on the Pyramids.
He is explaining in short that the way the pyramids were built was at a level that even today we would be hard pressed to equal with all the technology in existence making use of it. The relation between the dimensions of the pyramid(Khufu) and movements of the Earth and so on.
At the end he makes a remark about the artistry and skill implied and used in the building process and points out that such thing can not possibly come from enslaved people. Moreover, he declares that at the time the kingdom did not have slaves.
He is not the only one that came to such conclusion.
There are a few others that asserted the same and I also run into a research/study that proved how Moses supposedly parted the Red Sea. Interesting read!
There is nothing wrong with believing in something greater, more powerful, supreme being but to take that idea and push it onto others as the only explanation, that is what is wrong.
Doing that, you remove one’s inherent right to choose what to believe in and basically create slavery of mind and spirit.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jan 4, 2018 23:44:54 GMT -5
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