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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 2, 2018 9:35:59 GMT -5
For AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP, a New Year's gift: www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-31/nyt-publishes-report-debunking-fbi-use-dossier-gets-shredded-immediately-fake-newsIt concerns the NYT's alternative theory on the origin of the Russia probe. It's a Paul triple whammy. The debunking is compelling (for once), intensely critical of the NYT, and sourced from a CTH contributor. The moment I saw it, I thought of you. You're still dreaming if you think jail sentences or even indictments are going to come out of this. Players in Washington don't go to jail. Indictments require somebody beyond reproach to preside over the whole affair, to ensure impartiality, consistency, and justice. Who is that going to be? There's nobody left.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 11:08:12 GMT -5
For AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP , a New Year's gift: www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-31/nyt-publishes-report-debunking-fbi-use-dossier-gets-shredded-immediately-fake-newsIt concerns the NYT's alternative theory on the origin of the Russia probe. It's a Paul triple whammy. The debunking is compelling (for once), intensely critical of the NYT, and sourced from a CTH contributor. The moment I saw it, I thought of you. You're still dreaming if you think jail sentences or even indictments are going to come out of this. Players in Washington don't go to jail. Indictments require somebody beyond reproach to preside over the whole affair, to ensure impartiality, consistency, and justice. Who is that going to be? There's nobody left. In an ordinary establishment UniParty Republican President world, I'd say it will be swept under the rug for political expediency-- but Trump is moving on several tracks towards wrecking these people-- and one of them is a legal track where criminal charges will be brought and people will go to jail. You can take this prediction to the bank. If you think Trump isn't going to get everyone that's come after him, you're the one that's dreaming. Use together with this video- and you can see into the future: These people are FUCKED. Like they can't even imagine.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 11:30:33 GMT -5
Chapter 6: Revenge
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 11:32:10 GMT -5
For AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP , a New Year's gift: www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-31/nyt-publishes-report-debunking-fbi-use-dossier-gets-shredded-immediately-fake-newsIt concerns the NYT's alternative theory on the origin of the Russia probe. It's a Paul triple whammy. The debunking is compelling (for once), intensely critical of the NYT, and sourced from a CTH contributor. The moment I saw it, I thought of you. You're still dreaming if you think jail sentences or even indictments are going to come out of this. Players in Washington don't go to jail. Indictments require somebody beyond reproach to preside over the whole affair, to ensure impartiality, consistency, and justice. Who is that going to be? There's nobody left. In an ordinary establishment UniParty Republican President world, I'd say it will be swept under the rug for political expediency-- but Trump is moving on several tracks towards wrecking these people-- and one of them is a legal track where criminal charges will be brought and people will go to jail. You can take this prediction to the bank. If you think Trump isn't going to get everyone that's come after him, you're the one that's dreaming. Use together with this video- and you can see into the future: These people are FUCKED. Like they can't even imagine. We are still a nation of laws...I am not convinced that a conservative SCOTUS vwould just support the Donalds usurping the rules of law for his own come uppance...believe they would bury him...The same with the good folks of the country...even many members of his base and then if he really pushes it..there is always someone taking real discomfort of his actions and settling things right with the world...take it any way u would like it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 13:06:55 GMT -5
In an ordinary establishment UniParty Republican President world, I'd say it will be swept under the rug for political expediency-- but Trump is moving on several tracks towards wrecking these people-- and one of them is a legal track where criminal charges will be brought and people will go to jail. You can take this prediction to the bank. If you think Trump isn't going to get everyone that's come after him, you're the one that's dreaming. Use together with this video- and you can see into the future: These people are FUCKED. Like they can't even imagine. We are still a nation of laws...I am not convinced that a conservative SCOTUS vwould just support the Donalds usurping the rules of law for his own come uppance...believe they would bury him...The same with the good folks of the country...even many members of his base and then if he really pushes it..there is always someone taking real discomfort of his actions and settling things right with the world...take it any way u would like it. Um... I am not talking about purely personal. I'm talking about the fact that he is going to enjoy holding them accountable because they broke the law. I'm talking about someone who will take great personal pleasure in NOT going with political expediency, but actually locking up criminals.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 13:09:33 GMT -5
The Russian Collusion Narrative Was, As FBI Agent Peter Strzok Explained: “An Insurance Policy”… “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office that there’s no way he gets elected – but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.” ~FBI Agent Peter Strzok to FBI Lawyer Lisa Page Let us be clear on what the “insurance policy” was: The insurance policy was, in totality, the entire fraudulent Russian Conspiracy Narrative; and all of the accompanying –and subsequent– FBI and DOJ collaborative actions that were taken, under the auspices of an FBI counterintelligence operation, in order to generate an entirely false premise. The goal of using the “insurance policy” was to destroy, and possibly impeach, President Trump. All of it.As the Inspector General investigation continues: ♦FBI Agent Peter Strzok has been reassigned to the HR department. ♦FBI Lawyer Lisa Page, personal legal aide to FBI Asst. Director, Andrew “Andy” McCabe, has been returned to the DOJ side. ♦FBI Chief Legal Counsel James Baker has been relieved of his duties by FBI Director Christopher Wray. ♦FBI Asst Director Andrew McCabe has announced his intent to retire in March. All of these FBI personnel moves are a preliminary outcomes of the still ongoing Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation. All of this has been reported. None of these moves are speculative. However, this is just one side of the Trump operation, the FBI investigative Counterintelligence Division side. The legal side of the Trump operation, stems from the National Security Division of the DOJ. A FISA application is submitted from the DOJ-NSD side for use by the FBI Counterintelligence team. That’s the side the current New York Times Papadopoulos story is intended to protect. CTH anticipated that maneuver was coming; that’s why we wrote an outline about the DOJ-NSD collaboration two days before the NYT silly defense article. Continue reading → theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/01/the-russian-collusion-narrative-was-as-fbi-agent-peter-strzok-explained-an-insurance-policy/#more-144082#Fucked Unless the FISA warrant has "collect dirt on Donald Trump to fabricate collusion narrative in the event of a Trump presidency" under "Reason for Surveillance", how do we prove beyond a shadow of a doubt this was the intended purpose of the surveillance? They KNEW the "dossier" was a fabrication- because they fabricated it. They then perjured themselves in using it to obtain a FISA warrant. That ALONE is a crime. The intended purpose is transparently illegitimate.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 13:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 2, 2018 13:19:28 GMT -5
Wrong on the boss, not Trump, although he can fire AG's until he gets one to do what he wants. Hints of Nixon. The only deep state is in Trumps shallow mind.
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 13:32:48 GMT -5
We are still a nation of laws...I am not convinced that a conservative SCOTUS vwould just support the Donalds usurping the rules of law for his own come uppance...believe they would bury him...The same with the good folks of the country...even many members of his base and then if he really pushes it..there is always someone taking real discomfort of his actions and settling things right with the world...take it any way u would like it. Um... I am not talking about purely personal. I'm talking about the fact that he is going to enjoy holding them accountable because they broke the law. I'm talking about someone who will take great personal pleasure in NOT going with political expediency, but actually locking up criminals. This paranoia of yours..believe u really need to get a life, but anyway..this thing u have of these people breaking laws is really eating at u...sorry but no real proof of any such happenings...Possible wrong judgement yes , I said POSSIBLE ...but if so...who hasn't had that...and if you are referring to her e mails again...geeze, never give it a rest..she admitted that was a error on her part and apologized...and over $70 million was spent trying to find something illegal and wrong on the Clintons...found squat...prosecutor apologized to them...so what is it u are trying to say...u realize how silly all these accusations are making u look...hopefully your voicing only here and other such sites...if done publicly in the real world...in front of friends, families, work colleges...well..... ----------------------------------------------------- For those interested in the e mails of Clinton...if your up to a long read suggest browse through following link.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy#cite_note-Greenberg-66
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 13:48:44 GMT -5
DOJ first and most important roll I believe is to support and up hold the "Constitution"...It is the Nations department of Justice...not the private agency of a POTUS who ever he or she and which ever political party they might belong to.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 14:25:02 GMT -5
DOJ first and most important roll I believe is to support and up hold the "Constitution"...It is the Nations department of Justice...not the private agency of a POTUS who ever he or she and which ever political party they might belong to. Exactly. And as a nation we cannot tolerate a criminal conspiracy between a political party- the DNC, FBI, DOJ, NSA, and CIA to overturn the results of an election. People have to pay. We are past the tipping point: it is the Democratic Party or the Country. For once, we have a President willing to do what should have been done to the first political party in America to have a terrorist wing (Confederacy, KKK, Weather Underground, OWS, or Antifa- take your pick) in the first place: complete dismantling and prosecution. Trump is hell bent-- like I've never seen anyone-- to completely destroy the illegal and unConstitutional unelected administrative dictatorship. I happen to believe he's already succeeded beyond the deepest fears of the deep state-- and much of what he has already done has not been fully grasped by those about to fall: theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/01/the-stunning-truth-proving-the-fbi-and-doj-corruption-will-come-out/
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 14:25:28 GMT -5
The deep state Humpty Dumpty will have a great fall.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 14:32:45 GMT -5
Wrong on the boss, not Trump, although he can fire AG's until he gets one to do what he wants. Hints of Nixon. The only deep state is in Trumps shallow mind. The deep state is just a way of expressing the WBHWYG collection of bureaucrats that make up America's illegal and unConstitutional fourth branch of government- the permanent bureaucracy. You also have a very short memory regarding things that exist "in Trump's shallow mind". Remember where we came from-- Trump's Tweet stating Obama "tapped" is "wires" which CNN called "baseless". Then we reached the point where it is conceded that Trump was spied on and the discussion is now whether that was legitimate or not? Now, we know that a fabricated piece of evidence used as the basis not merely for the FISA warrant-- but for the entire "Russiagate" scandal. And it goes all the way to Obama:
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 14:35:48 GMT -5
Wrong on the boss, not Trump, although he can fire AG's until he gets one to do what he wants. Hints of Nixon. The only deep state is in Trumps shallow mind. And The President of the United States is the top law enforcement officer. There are three branches of government. The DOJ falls under the executive. Just as Obama is ultimately culpable for the illegal spying, Trump is the head of the DOJ. He can-- and he will-- clean house.
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 14:44:20 GMT -5
Wrong on the boss, not Trump, although he can fire AG's until he gets one to do what he wants. Hints of Nixon. The only deep state is in Trumps shallow mind. The deep state is just a way of expressing the WBHWYG collection of bureaucrats that make up America's illegal and unConstitutional fourth branch of government- the permanent bureaucracy. You also have a very short memory regarding things that exist "in Trump's shallow mind". Remember where we came from-- Trump's Tweet stating Obama "tapped" is "wires" which CNN called "baseless". Then we reached the point where it is conceded that Trump was spied on and the discussion is now whether that was legitimate or not? Now, we know that a fabricated piece of evidence used as the basis not merely for the FISA warrant-- but for the entire "Russiagate" scandal. And it goes all the way to Obama: aaahhh yes...Obama again...LOL...like a f broken record and u say u are public in the real world with all these conspiracy's running through your mind...have fellow supporters and believers...sit around drinking prune juice and amplifying and layering more of these beliefs...WOW...
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 14:45:42 GMT -5
Wrong on the boss, not Trump, although he can fire AG's until he gets one to do what he wants. Hints of Nixon. The only deep state is in Trumps shallow mind. And The President of the United States is the top law enforcement officer. There are three branches of government. The DOJ falls under the executive. Just as Obama is ultimately culpable for the illegal spying, Trump is the head of the DOJ. He can-- and he will-- clean house. ...... --------------------------------------------------------- "It also suggested that Trump thinks that that's his decision to make, reflecting an apparent lack of regard for the cherished independence of the Justice Department, which is responsible for conducting investigations without the influence or opinion of the White House. " ------------ "Long-standing protocol dictates that the FBI and Justice Department operate free of political influence or meddling from the White House.
That's one reason that the FBI director serves a 10-year term and does not turn over the reins as presidential administrations come and go. It also means that presidents are not supposed to supervise, initiate or stop law enforcement investigations. White House officials and Justice Department lawyers aren't even meant to talk with each other about ongoing criminal investigations or civil enforcement actions, though there is some leeway granted for matters of national security" ----------------------------------- from Space Paul.. "Trump is the head of the DOJ. He can-- and he will-- clean house." You were saying...? www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-justice-department-white-house-20161123-story.html
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 2, 2018 14:47:23 GMT -5
Keeping this factual, using the correct titles, and ignoring the RW fanatical opinions, I'll again post the DOJ department hierarchy:
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 15:00:05 GMT -5
The corruption is so transparent now, all Trump needs to do is pick one of 30 or 40 points of attack and he will have them rocked back on their heels. But Trump will likely take more than one path to their ultimate undoing-- he has many to choose from. Let me suggest just a handful-- and I'll be unreasonably charitable and leave out Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation bribery, extortion, and racketeering: The unlawful 'exoneration' of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI following the extraordinary Attorney General of the United States meeting of former President Bill Clinton on an airport tarmac (which was supposed to be secret- but was thankfully exposed)-- the AG and the husband of a target of a criminal investigation, Hillary Clinton, to talk about "grandkids" which she doesn't have. The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI (and don't forget the FBI had once reached an agreement to Fusion GPS's Christopher Steele for his 'consulting' work - www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-once-planned-to-pay-former-british-spy-who-authored-controversial-trump-dossier/2017/02/28/896ab470-facc-11e6-9845-576c69081518_story.html?utm_term=.5b43ef236fad ) The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit.
The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit.
The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy-this one is important because the appointment of a Special Counsel REQUIRES A CRIME to have been committed before an investigation. It is illegal for Mueller to conduct a fishing expedition-- it's illegal for him to have even been appointed. Mueller's very appointment is, ironically, grounds for the appointment of a Special Counsel to investigate the illegal appointment of a Special Counsel. Barrack Obama, the DNC, the Clinton Campaign, and NeverTrump elements of the GOP are all in deep shit right now. And while it would not be for Trump's own personal benefit- ala Nixon- but for the country's very survival (how can we continue as a nation with a government within a government?), his disposition, proclivities, personal philosophy as well as his complete and total political independence, certainly plays into whether or not the matters I've mentioned- and 30, 40, or more issues- will be handled.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 15:02:07 GMT -5
The deep state is just a way of expressing the WBHWYG collection of bureaucrats that make up America's illegal and unConstitutional fourth branch of government- the permanent bureaucracy. You also have a very short memory regarding things that exist "in Trump's shallow mind". Remember where we came from-- Trump's Tweet stating Obama "tapped" is "wires" which CNN called "baseless". Then we reached the point where it is conceded that Trump was spied on and the discussion is now whether that was legitimate or not? Now, we know that a fabricated piece of evidence used as the basis not merely for the FISA warrant-- but for the entire "Russiagate" scandal. And it goes all the way to Obama: aaahhh yes...Obama again...LOL...like a f broken record and u say u are public in the real world with all these conspiracy's running through your mind...have fellow supporters and believers...sit around drinking prune juice and amplifying and layering more of these beliefs...WOW... You are so out of touch with reality it's hardly worth continuing the discussion. I'm doing my best to prepare you for the future. You are soon going to be living in a world in which Hillary Clinton is in jail.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2018 15:03:12 GMT -5
Keeping this factual, using the correct titles, and ignoring the RW fanatical opinions, I'll again post the DOJ department hierarchy: So, as a member of the Cabinet- who is the AG's boss? It's super fuckin' simple, my friend.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 2, 2018 15:14:54 GMT -5
DOJ first and most important roll I believe is to support and up hold the "Constitution"...It is the Nations department of Justice...not the private agency of a POTUS who ever he or she and which ever political party they might belong to. Exactly. And as a nation we cannot tolerate a criminal conspiracy between a political party- the DNC, FBI, DOJ, NSA, and CIA to overturn the results of an election. People have to pay. We are past the tipping point: it is the Democratic Party or the Country. For once, we have a President willing to do what should have been done to the first political party in America to have a terrorist wing (Confederacy, KKK, Weather Underground, OWS, or Antifa- take your pick) in the first place: complete dismantling and prosecution. Trump is hell bent-- like I've never seen anyone-- to completely destroy the illegal and unConstitutional unelected administrative dictatorship. I happen to believe he's already succeeded beyond the deepest fears of the deep state-- and much of what he has already done has not been fully grasped by those about to fall: theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/01/the-stunning-truth-proving-the-fbi-and-doj-corruption-will-come-out/It's hard to be hell bent on anything when you just spent the last seven days golfing.
www.businessinsider.com/how-much-has-trump-golfed-gone-to-mar-a-lago-2017-12
I have no doubt Trump will attempt to get revenge. That has always been one of his biggest motivations in life. We've seen how easily it is for him to throw ex-campaign or WH employees under the bus, if it helps to divert attention away from himself and his business. He certainly has no qualms about working in the grey, semi-legal areas to get what he wants. Other than pulling a Jared Kushner type move by trying to frame one of his enemies in bed with a hooker, though, I'm not sure what he can do. Pretty sure he isn't going to be able to kill every democrat in the nation in order to purge the government of disloyal people, which seems to be what you are implying. Can't imagine even the most conservative politicians going along with that. Sounds too much like a non-Muslim jihad.
I do appreciate how dedicated you are to Trump, though. Too bad he isn't deserving of such faith.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 2, 2018 15:17:01 GMT -5
aaahhh yes...Obama again...LOL...like a f broken record and u say u are public in the real world with all these conspiracy's running through your mind...have fellow supporters and believers...sit around drinking prune juice and amplifying and layering more of these beliefs...WOW... You are so out of touch with reality it's hardly worth continuing the discussion. I'm doing my best to prepare you for the future. You are soon going to be living in a world in which Hillary Clinton is in jail. Um, well, pot/kettle.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 2, 2018 15:19:57 GMT -5
Keeping this factual, using the correct titles, and ignoring the RW fanatical opinions, I'll again post the DOJ department hierarchy: So, as a member of the Cabinet- who is the AG's boss? It's super fuckin' simple, my friend. Too bad you don't get it. Chain of command. You asked how long the DOJ can ignore their boss. Yes very simple. You didn't say the AG's boss (Trump). You said the DOJ's boss (the AG). Get it? Pres, AG, DOJ.
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Post by dezii on Jan 2, 2018 15:52:20 GMT -5
Keeping this factual, using the correct titles, and ignoring the RW fanatical opinions, I'll again post the DOJ department hierarchy: So, as a member of the Cabinet- who is the AG's boss? It's super fuckin' simple, my friend. What also is so "fuckin simple"...figure u are into such adjectives, why I haven't a clue but will humor u...Worse thing that could happen to the AG is being let go...the man has a net worth of $7.5 million also will be eligible for a very, very nice government pension...so many years as a Senator...so while not in the same league as our Donald...he will be fine...in fact why he stayed in this cabinet being insulted by the Donald as he has been and not telling the man to perch on it...rotate and pound sand is beyond me...didn't need the crap given him..a kick in the gonads of the man as he left would have been in order too except then SS would then be obligated to shoot him...though believe for many of them, it would be done with great reluctance. Just saying.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 2, 2018 20:00:11 GMT -5
Unless the FISA warrant has "collect dirt on Donald Trump to fabricate collusion narrative in the event of a Trump presidency" under "Reason for Surveillance", how do we prove beyond a shadow of a doubt this was the intended purpose of the surveillance? They KNEW the "dossier" was a fabrication- because they fabricated it. They then perjured themselves in using it to obtain a FISA warrant. That ALONE is a crime. The intended purpose is transparently illegitimate. How do you prove the FISA warrant was issued on the basis of the dossier? That's the piece of the puzzle I'm not seeing in your litany of articles. The theory makes sense, and the timeline of the accused's documented actions lends it credence, but as evidence it's circumstantial. You say "perjured themselves in using it to obtain a FISA warrant". Where is the document or paper trail definitively linking the dossier to the warrant? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, because I don't know. But I can't find it anywhere in what you've provided and it's pivotal.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 2, 2018 20:07:07 GMT -5
...expressing the WBHWYG collection... You've used this acronym several times and it's not defined anywhere. Why Barbecue Hamburgers When You're Golfing? We Believe Hillary Was Your Grandmother?
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Post by dondub on Jan 2, 2018 22:52:01 GMT -5
Virgil, We'll be here when you're gone.
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Post by kadee79 on Jan 2, 2018 22:59:24 GMT -5
Thanks DD, I had no idea either, but I just consider the source & ignore it.
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Post by dondub on Jan 2, 2018 23:10:17 GMT -5
I'm surprised Virgil couldn't find it. I just typed it into google.
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