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Post by billisonboard on Feb 9, 2018 14:22:04 GMT -5
I'm really loathe to slow down ... No problem. I am here to provide the full story when you only have time to present the spin.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2018 14:47:49 GMT -5
gaslighting is attempting to convince someone that they are nuts in order to get something out of them.
i think the latter part is important. there are people that call me nuts and stupid all day around here. but they are never going to get anything out of me, and they know it. so, imo, that is NOT gaslighting.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 9, 2018 15:30:27 GMT -5
So are we going to be treated to an announcement every time someone in the FBI retires?
People retire every day for non-nefarious reasons.
Or perhaps he moved up his retirement date because his boss is fucking nuts and keeps denigrating his department. That would certainly speed me out to the unemployment office or the retirement home.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2018 15:42:55 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't going to run for President - never said that Donald Trump isn't going to release his financial statements - never said that Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee - never said that Donald Trump is never going to win the general election - never said that Donald Trump is crazy, he's a nut, he's a narcissist, he's paranoid- there's no evidence Obama was spying on Trump or that Trump tower was being surveilled. - well, he is a narcissist, imo. and there is no evidence that Obama was spying on Trump. Donald Trump is crazy, there's no evidence that Hillary Clinton or the Democratic Party had anything to do with this dossier. - never said that. Shall I continue?
you were 0.5/6. you should probably quit there. unless you get off on saying untruthful stuff.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 9, 2018 15:50:42 GMT -5
How many years of history do we have on that?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 9, 2018 15:59:26 GMT -5
When we respond we only encourage him.
"We absolutely know" = I think "Absolute proof" = I have sources "I'm better informed" = I read far right crap "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" = he tells us often how dumb the left is.
Why does he keep coming here? Because like Trump he needs attention.
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Post by dezii on Feb 9, 2018 16:02:23 GMT -5
You all obviously missed the festivities today. If I said 10,000 text messages-- would any of you even know what I'm referring to? I wouldn't give a shit Paul. I am of little mind and focus right now, but one of the blessings is I tend to know what is important and what isn't when I am like this. BS works on me even less than usual. If you think its a big deal, it must not be, because Trump and your unicorn conservative dreams are going down. Hard.
I don't know how its going to unroll, but only the naïve or willfully in denial are missing the Trump train is headed for a very big wall. There will be wreckage. Some pieces have already come off the train. Jr. is careening on his wheels.
Am I mistaken or am I correct , from day one of actually sitting in that office in the White House in a official sworn in capacity right up to today...seems even when he was in Asia, then Europe...there hasn't been a day where some political crap involving the Donald, his people, or both was not the talk of the day... It is getting to be a bit much...not what the American public , including the so called base, signed up for when he took office...it's gotten old... Soap Operas belong on the radio back in the day and now on afternoon TV...not the White House...
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Post by dezii on Feb 9, 2018 16:07:41 GMT -5
i would say that Obama was probably the "cleanest" president we have had since Carter. there are a lot of bad things you can say about him, but none involve his business dealings or his family matters. using the toothpaste analogy, this was a defective tube that has no contents. you will NEVER get Obama for this. EVER.It isn't likely, but never say NEVER. " Obama said nothing about Russia until after the election."
According to VP Biden...interview earlier this week...they did not have definitive proof of the Russian interference, depth of their interference and to just throw it out with out that they felt it would only make it worse...It was only after the election, some weeks was the definitive proof become available. He was very convincing..I believed him.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 9, 2018 16:27:46 GMT -5
if this YOU is the public "you" = our government, yes it is. the government is entitled to know a great many things about Trump's business dealings: a) whether he paid his taxes b) whether he was engaged in illegal activities c) whether he was in violation of any labor laws, statutes, health and safety regulations, etc. whether you are in business or not, the government is also allowed to find out if you are dealing with hostile powers. i know a guy who was an oil trader. turns out that he did oil deals with Iraq when that country was under boycott and sanctions. he lost his citizenship. if the charges against Trump are true, that would be a fitting end for him. send him to Mexico.
Wrong. Like any other citizen, the assumption is that Donald Trump pays his taxes, isn't engaged in any illegal business dealings, and has not violated any labor laws. Not even the government itself is allowed to just go fishing because they don't like someone. So, I repeat: you (the pejorative "you") are not entitled to know anything about Trump's business dealings that isn't required by law to be publicly disclosed.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 9, 2018 16:32:18 GMT -5
So are we going to be treated to an announcement every time someone in the FBI retires?
People retire every day for non-nefarious reasons.
Or perhaps he moved up his retirement date because his boss is fucking nuts and keeps denigrating his department. That would certainly speed me out to the unemployment office or the retirement home.
All are possibilities. But some conclusions are more likely than others.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 9, 2018 16:36:24 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure anymore how Strzok and Page were "having an affair". They seem to be texting more than other things. I haven't sent that many text messages in my life to everyone I know combined. And if I had a mistress that texted in this volume, I'd block her number-- nookie be damned.
Those two love birds are going to take down the entire FBI. Weird how events play out. Coming up on the one year anniversary of the Trump Tweet that pulled the plug on the swamp drain.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 9, 2018 16:41:58 GMT -5
... I haven't sent that many text messages in my life to everyone I know combined. And if I had a mistress that texted in this volume, I'd block her number-- nookie be damned. ...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 9, 2018 16:49:38 GMT -5
It isn't likely, but never say NEVER. " Obama said nothing about Russia until after the election."
According to VP Biden...interview earlier this week...they did not have definitive proof of the Russian interference, depth of their interference and to just throw it out with out that they felt it would only make it worse...It was only after the election, some weeks was the definitive proof become available. He was very convincing..I believed him. It's becoming clearer every day that the "Trump-Russia collusion" narrative was indeed the "insurance policy". It wasn't discussed much before the election because-- as is also becoming clearer every day, the fix was in for Hillary to get the nomination, and the fix was in for Hillary in the investigation of her illegal clandestine private email server which Obama knew about, and used to communicate with her using a pseudonym in spite of his statements to the contrary. President Obama then colluded with the DOJ and the FBI to ensure that Hillary wasn't indicted and remained in the race. The assumption was that she'd win. When it became clear she would- and indeed did lose- the election, they not only needed to come up with an explanation other than the truth: we rigged it and we've been lying to you for the better part of a year. And they needed to make Trump "illegitimate" the way they did to Bush, and if possible- get Trump out of office. But more important than any of that-- they needed a way to keep tabs on Team Trump because they now had an outsider who would soon be pawing around in their dealings. Don't think it was lost on them that Trump was holding rallies once or twice a day where large numbers of people were packed into venues by the thousands chanting "Lock Her Up"-- and who can forget this gem: But I think what really put them on notice was this speech. This let every single swamp dweller know that this billionaire real estate developer was going to drain and then backfill the swamp they've all been playing in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 17:00:31 GMT -5
Wow, now we even get Amercia's Got Talent red check boxes. Lord...
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 9, 2018 17:24:40 GMT -5
Now when did dt release his tax returns since there is some debate about him releasing his "financial statements"? I must have missed that but I would like to nose around in them. And yes, I have -among other things- degrees in accounting and finance so I would at least have some understanding of what I would be looking at....
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 9, 2018 20:13:02 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't going to run for President - never said that Donald Trump isn't going to release his financial statements - never said that Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee - never said that Donald Trump is never going to win the general election - never said that Donald Trump is crazy, he's a nut, he's a narcissist, he's paranoid- there's no evidence Obama was spying on Trump or that Trump tower was being surveilled. - well, he is a narcissist, imo. and there is no evidence that Obama was spying on Trump. Donald Trump is crazy, there's no evidence that Hillary Clinton or the Democratic Party had anything to do with this dossier. - never said that. Shall I continue?you were 0.5/6. you should probably quit there. unless you get off on saying untruthful stuff. I doubt Paul keeps track of precisely who makes what statement. Even when I do occasionally, I get ribbed for it. Every statement in the list has been made at least a dozen times on P/CE over the years. The reply is to YMAM in general: "Here is the list of things you said would never happen." Having said this, flash back to August 2015 and quite a few of your comments come pretty darn close to "Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee" and "Donald Trump is never going to win the general election" although you never use this phraseology. Likewise, in this thread. I won't quote you since you don't like me pulling statements out of context.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2018 21:05:39 GMT -5
It isn't likely, but never say NEVER. " Obama said nothing about Russia until after the election."
According to VP Biden...interview earlier this week...they did not have definitive proof of the Russian interference, depth of their interference and to just throw it out with out that they felt it would only make it worse...It was only after the election, some weeks was the definitive proof become available. He was very convincing..I believed him. i was gilding, dezi/ Virgil Showlion. this sort of rhetorical flourish is familiar to everyone on the board. nobody should take it seriously. i certainly don't.
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Post by dezii on Feb 10, 2018 1:54:13 GMT -5
" Obama said nothing about Russia until after the election."
According to VP Biden...interview earlier this week...they did not have definitive proof of the Russian interference, depth of their interference and to just throw it out with out that they felt it would only make it worse...It was only after the election, some weeks was the definitive proof become available. He was very convincing..I believed him. i was gilding, dezi/ Virgil Showlion . this sort of rhetorical flourish is familiar to everyone on the board. nobody should take it seriously. i certainly don't. gilding...flourishing?...I've been here since the beginning....2010 or so...[don't go by the date listed]...not familiar with it...if one says it's so I go with that...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 10, 2018 8:40:38 GMT -5
"Donald Trump is crazy, he's a nut, he's a narcissist, he's paranoid- there's no evidence Obama was spying on Trump or that Trump tower was being surveilled. "
This is still true. Trump is not on the wiretap list. Prove otherwise if you can. Did they get a FISA warrant on Donald Trump? No. Was Donald Trump spied on? Yes. This is Title I -- the TOTAL surveillance of Carter Page which allowed them to spy on EVERYONE in the campaign that had contact with Page. By the way- if Carter Page is an owned / controlled asset of the Russian government-- why did they stop surveilling him? Has he ever once been questioned by Mueller who is supposedly investigating Russian meddling in the 2016 election? This was a deliberate end-run around the law. The FISA court was lied to-- a felony.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 10, 2018 8:42:29 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't going to run for President - never said that Donald Trump isn't going to release his financial statements - never said that Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee - never said that Donald Trump is never going to win the general election - never said that Donald Trump is crazy, he's a nut, he's a narcissist, he's paranoid- there's no evidence Obama was spying on Trump or that Trump tower was being surveilled. - well, he is a narcissist, imo. and there is no evidence that Obama was spying on Trump. Donald Trump is crazy, there's no evidence that Hillary Clinton or the Democratic Party had anything to do with this dossier. - never said that. Shall I continue?you were 0.5/6. you should probably quit there. unless you get off on saying untruthful stuff. I doubt Paul keeps track of precisely who makes what statement. Even when I do occasionally, I get ribbed for it. Every statement in the list has been made at least a dozen times on P/CE over the years. The reply is to YMAM in general: "Here is the list of things you said would never happen."Having said this, flash back to August 2015 and quite a few of your comments come pretty darn close to "Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee" and "Donald Trump is never going to win the general election" although you never use this phraseology. Likewise, in this thread. I won't quote you since you don't like me pulling statements out of context. Correct. An individual YMer would have to be a narcissist to think this post was about them specifically.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 10, 2018 8:43:43 GMT -5
That is the cover story, yes.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2018 11:28:37 GMT -5
Having said this, flash back to August 2015 and quite a few of your comments come pretty darn close to "Donald Trump is never going to be the GOP nominee" and "Donald Trump is never going to win the general election" although you never use this phraseology. Likewise, in this thread. I won't quote you since you don't like me pulling statements out of context. thank you, board historian, but i am quite aware of what i said. the odds were very much against Trump, and i made it clear i was against his candidacy. but not only could i NEVER rule it out, at a certain juncture it became VERY clear to me that he stood a good chance of winning. i even said sometime in either November or December of 2015 that "i don't see what could stop him". see if you can find THAT phrase too, if you have any interest in fairness. i doubt you do.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2018 11:29:28 GMT -5
i was gilding, dezi/ Virgil Showlion . this sort of rhetorical flourish is familiar to everyone on the board. nobody should take it seriously. i certainly don't. gilding...flourishing?...I've been here since the beginning....2010 or so...[don't go by the date listed]...not familiar with it...if one says it's so I go with that... you should stop that. i am sarcastic a fair amount of the time. but for the record, i wasn't referring to myself in that reply.
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Post by dezii on Feb 10, 2018 11:33:44 GMT -5
gilding...flourishing?...I've been here since the beginning....2010 or so...[don't go by the date listed]...not familiar with it...if one says it's so I go with that... you should stop that. i am sarcastic a fair amount of the time. but for the record, i wasn't referring to myself in that reply. So how was I to know that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2018 11:36:34 GMT -5
Correct. An individual YMer would have to be a narcissist to think this post was about them specifically.
i was speaking for the sensible majority, not just for myself.
and you are in no position to criticize narcissism, imo.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2018 11:38:02 GMT -5
you should stop that. i am sarcastic a fair amount of the time. but for the record, i wasn't referring to myself in that reply. So how was I to know that? by asking. which you did. well done.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 10, 2018 11:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 10, 2018 11:54:52 GMT -5
Gaslight Saturday.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 10, 2018 12:21:30 GMT -5
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