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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:09:42 GMT -5
Why not? Bill could have just called her on the phone for any nefarious purposes he might have had in mind. That's 3 now. Thanks
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Post by tallguy on Jan 22, 2018 14:11:13 GMT -5
Are you suggesting limiting voting rights based on what you consider to be "stupid"? In an ideal world? Honestly, though, if a proper and fair test could be developed which measured intelligence, reasoning ability, and knowledge of issues and events I would not be opposed to having to pass in order to become a registered voter. We have to pass a competency test to drive a car. Why not to vote?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 14:30:50 GMT -5
Nobody needed to fix anything for Clinton. She was never going to be charged because there was nothing for her to be legitimately charged with. To believe otherwise was desperation, not evidence. She was never going to be charged . True. Nothing to charge her with. False. Peter Strzok fixed it for her. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/04/cnn_fbi_agent_strzok_changed_comeys_clinton_language_from_grossly_negligent_to_extremely_careless.html#! Records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Clinton’s private email server as the second-highest-ranking official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey’s draft language describing Clinton’s behavior as “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless,” a source told CNN. The shift from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” was key because the federal law that covers how classified material should be handled calls for criminal penalties for “gross negligence.”
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Post by Opti on Jan 22, 2018 14:46:31 GMT -5
Nobody needed to fix anything for Clinton. She was never going to be charged because there was nothing for her to be legitimately charged with. To believe otherwise was desperation, not evidence. She was never going to be charged . True. Nothing to charge her with. False. Peter Strzok fixed it for her. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/04/cnn_fbi_agent_strzok_changed_comeys_clinton_language_from_grossly_negligent_to_extremely_careless.html#! Records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Clinton’s private email server as the second-highest-ranking official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey’s draft language describing Clinton’s behavior as “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless,” a source told CNN. The shift from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” was key because the federal law that covers how classified material should be handled calls for criminal penalties for “gross negligence.” You do understand that the behavior needs to meet the standards of gross negligence not just be called that in a report right? Otherwise we can skip all trials and investigations from here on out.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 22, 2018 14:55:20 GMT -5
Just a question. Does anyone here believe that the meeting on a tarmac in Phoenix between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton was just a coincidence ? I have no idea. I once met a friend from high school in Schiphol airport (Amsterdam). It had been over 30 years but he recognized me and we sat down for coffee. Coincidences do happen so I'm not going to jump on a conspiracy band wagon just because.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 22, 2018 15:48:46 GMT -5
She was never going to be charged . True. Nothing to charge her with. False. Peter Strzok fixed it for her. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/04/cnn_fbi_agent_strzok_changed_comeys_clinton_language_from_grossly_negligent_to_extremely_careless.html#! Records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Clinton’s private email server as the second-highest-ranking official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey’s draft language describing Clinton’s behavior as “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless,” a source told CNN. The shift from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” was key because the federal law that covers how classified material should be handled calls for criminal penalties for “gross negligence.” You do understand that the behavior needs to meet the standards of gross negligence not just be called that in a report right? Otherwise we can skip all trials and investigations from here on out. They've thrown worker bees in jail for less, before and after emailgate. If the system was fair, the case would have gone before a judge at the very least.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 22, 2018 16:54:46 GMT -5
blame the dark money shadow government CIA lizard people Illuminati.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 22, 2018 17:20:51 GMT -5
Nobody needed to fix anything for Clinton. She was never going to be charged because there was nothing for her to be legitimately charged with. To believe otherwise was desperation, not evidence. She was never going to be charged . True. Nothing to charge her with. False. Peter Strzok fixed it for her. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/04/cnn_fbi_agent_strzok_changed_comeys_clinton_language_from_grossly_negligent_to_extremely_careless.html#! Records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Clinton’s private email server as the second-highest-ranking official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey’s draft language describing Clinton’s behavior as “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless,” a source told CNN. The shift from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” was key because the federal law that covers how classified material should be handled calls for criminal penalties for “gross negligence.” Is it possible that the FBI reviewed the case and the evidence and decided 'extremely careless' was a more proper description than "gross negligence?" I imagine deciding what to label this activity required input from a lot of FBI agents, at different levels in the organization, and even if your buddy Strzok was single mindedly determined to smooth the way for Hillary, one person alone could not have done it.
Either everyone else at the FBI colluded with him (or Strzok is somehow the FBI mastermind that bosses everyone else around) and that theory is a lot less likely than my theory that a bunch of people at the FBI got together and decided the term "extremely careless' was more suitable in this circumstance, because there wasn't enough evidence to say Clinton was grossly negligent.
This is the problem with conspiracy theories. More logical explanations are skipped over in favor of the greatest inflammatory circumstances possible, because a political agenda is involved. Most of the time, Occam's Razor. Also, if a theory requires everyone in a federal department to collude with it, it probably isn't true.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 22, 2018 19:10:06 GMT -5
Just a question. Does anyone here believe that the meeting on a tarmac in Phoenix between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton was just a coincidence ? I have no idea. I once met a friend from high school in Schiphol airport (Amsterdam). It had been over 30 years but he recognized me and we sat down for coffee. Coincidences do happen so I'm not going to jump on a conspiracy band wagon just because. A similar and very odd coincidence. I was in the Los Angeles area on a work assignment and I met up with a former co-worker from when we worked together in Connecticut and who now lived and worked in metro L.A.. We met for lunch at a small vegan restaurant. As he was asking me what some people we had both worked with or knew thru work were up to, a woman in another booth turned around and told us she too knew some of those same people we knew. She named a few other people she knew and where they worked in the northeast who we also knew so we knew she was telling the truth. Coincidence in a small vegan restaurant on the other side of the country.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 22, 2018 19:26:56 GMT -5
I have no idea. I once met a friend from high school in Schiphol airport (Amsterdam). It had been over 30 years but he recognized me and we sat down for coffee. Coincidences do happen so I'm not going to jump on a conspiracy band wagon just because. A similar and very odd coincidence. I was in the Los Angeles area on a work assignment and I met up with a former co-worker from when we worked together in Connecticut and who now lived and worked in metro L.A.. We met for lunch at a small vegan restaurant. As he was asking me what some people we had both worked with or knew thru work were up to, a woman in another booth turned around and told us she too knew some of those same people we knew. She named a few other people she knew and where they worked in the northeast who we also knew so we knew she was telling the truth. Coincidence in a small vegan restaurant on the other side of the country. Nah! You know you were all there plotting a nefarious coup on the beef ranching industry!
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Post by tallguy on Jan 22, 2018 20:32:08 GMT -5
I have no idea. I once met a friend from high school in Schiphol airport (Amsterdam). It had been over 30 years but he recognized me and we sat down for coffee. Coincidences do happen so I'm not going to jump on a conspiracy band wagon just because. A similar and very odd coincidence. I was in the Los Angeles area on a work assignment and I met up with a former co-worker from when we worked together in Connecticut and who now lived and worked in metro L.A.. We met for lunch at a small vegan restaurant. As he was asking me what some people we had both worked with or knew thru work were up to, a woman in another booth turned around and told us she too knew some of those same people we knew. She named a few other people she knew and where they worked in the northeast who we also knew so we knew she was telling the truth. Coincidence in a small vegan restaurant on the other side of the country. I ran into a sub from a bowling league (who had bowled with us a bunch of times) walking through the Silver Legacy in Reno.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 23, 2018 8:52:14 GMT -5
Great spins on meeting old friend somewhere, some how, has any thing to do with Lynch meeting with Clinton at the Phoenix airport. Did you know that Phoenix charges $3000. for each airplane to land at Sky Harbor? Little things like that kinda me a casual meeting to "Talk about their grand children" a little expensive,, If that was the case a phone call would be slightly cheaper. www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/21/ex-mueller-aides-texts-revealed-read-them-here.htmlOh boy, I am waiting for the spin on this,,,, Again, It means NOTHING!!! Also note that texts were not preserved between Dec 14 2016 and May 17 !!! Another note from the Government ,, Hillary book on operating procedures when thing are going wrong Erase everything in incriminating!! Or Lois Lerner case have a mass computer failure!! The sleaze here is thicker than molasses!!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 9:13:59 GMT -5
ibid.: Strzok – I am riled up. Trump is a f***ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.
Strzok – I CAN'T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F**K HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!
Page – I don't know. But we'll get it back. We're America. We rock.
Strzok – Donald just said "bad hombres"
Strzok – Trump just said what the FBI did is disgraceful. The series reads like a transcript of P/CE on a good day.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 10:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 23, 2018 10:35:31 GMT -5
Doesn't mean trump and his admin didn't collude with the Russians.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 10:43:55 GMT -5
So... we're just sitting here while Congress has a jolly time reading these "bombshell" e-mails/texts we can't read for ourselves? The headline should read, "Congress to public: "Ooooohoooohoohoho what we've got is good! Ooooh is it ever good! We bet you wish you could read it! If you knew what was in it, you'd certainly wish you could. It's soooooooo juicy! Soooo very good and juicy, America!") Stop telling us how juicy the beef is and just give us the beef!
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Post by Opti on Jan 23, 2018 10:50:36 GMT -5
Bullshit. There is no secret society and its all conjecture. And bad conjecture at that. There is no insurance policy. Just a guy talking about the fact that one couldn't rule out Trump being elected. Its so terribly sad to see people pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing. Its like having part of the country become literally insane. They can't tell the difference between real actual crimes and a couple words in a text message. It reminds me of that scene in a Beautiful Mind where John Nash has convinced himself he is working on elaborate stuff for the government. In reality, his delusion has taken hold of his brain and he is not grounded in reality.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jan 23, 2018 11:04:31 GMT -5
A similar and very odd coincidence. I was in the Los Angeles area on a work assignment and I met up with a former co-worker from when we worked together in Connecticut and who now lived and worked in metro L.A.. We met for lunch at a small vegan restaurant. As he was asking me what some people we had both worked with or knew thru work were up to, a woman in another booth turned around and told us she too knew some of those same people we knew. She named a few other people she knew and where they worked in the northeast who we also knew so we knew she was telling the truth. Coincidence in a small vegan restaurant on the other side of the country. I ran into a sub from a bowling league (who had bowled with us a bunch of times) walking through the Silver Legacy in Reno. That is not that surprising, considering the national bowling stadium is just around the corner, and many people from around the country stay there, or next door and walk through, for nationals.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 11:21:17 GMT -5
Bullshit. There is no secret society and its all conjecture. And bad conjecture at that. There is no insurance policy. Just a guy talking about the fact that one couldn't rule out Trump being elected. Its so terribly sad to see people pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing. Its like having part of the country become literally insane. They can't tell the difference between real actual crimes and a couple words in a text message. It reminds me of that scene in a Beautiful Mind where John Nash has convinced himself he is working on elaborate stuff for the government. In reality, his delusion has taken hold of his brain and he is not grounded in reality. That's a mighty large glass house you're living in, Opti. There's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the "Russian 100K Facebook campaign may have meaningfully swayed the election" narrative, which you defended as a realistic possibility. Likewise, unless and until the Mueller investigation comes back with something damning, there's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the idea that Pres. Trump's team had anything to do with the DNC hack, the Facebook ads, or whatever else the nebulous "collusion" charges have referred to over the past year. On this count, you've been outspoken in your faith that Mr. Mueller will uncover something nefarious. Hence if the present conjecture is "pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing", what does that make your conjecture about the Russian Facebook campaign and the Mueller probe? "Super duper bullshit without real proof of wrongdoing?" Let's both work at being more respectful in expressing our skepticism, eh?
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 23, 2018 11:25:49 GMT -5
... military tribunal ... Where the hell does this come from? Are you actually supporting a military takeover?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 23, 2018 11:44:14 GMT -5
... military tribunal ... Where the hell does this come from? Are you actually supporting a military takeover? Extreme, but necessary, Billis. Extreme... but necessary. If it's done right, casualties won't exceed the low five digits.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 23, 2018 11:53:34 GMT -5
this is a paper tiger. mark my words.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 23, 2018 11:56:22 GMT -5
Where the hell does this come from? Are you actually supporting a military takeover? Extreme, but necessary, Billis. Extreme... but necessary. If it's done right, casualties won't exceed the low five digits. It should have a low casualty count because most of those who are well armed will be supporting the end of our democracy.
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Post by Opti on Jan 23, 2018 12:11:25 GMT -5
Bullshit. There is no secret society and its all conjecture. And bad conjecture at that. There is no insurance policy. Just a guy talking about the fact that one couldn't rule out Trump being elected. Its so terribly sad to see people pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing. Its like having part of the country become literally insane. They can't tell the difference between real actual crimes and a couple words in a text message. It reminds me of that scene in a Beautiful Mind where John Nash has convinced himself he is working on elaborate stuff for the government. In reality, his delusion has taken hold of his brain and he is not grounded in reality. That's a mighty large glass house you're living in, Opti. There's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the "Russian 100K Facebook campaign may have meaningfully swayed the election" narrative, which you defended as a realistic possibility. Likewise, unless and until the Mueller investigation comes back with something damning, there's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the idea that Pres. Trump's team had anything to do with the DNC hack, the Facebook ads, or whatever else the nebulous "collusion" charges have referred to over the past year. On this count, you've been outspoken in your faith that Mr. Mueller will uncover something nefarious. Hence if the present conjecture is "pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing", what does that make your conjecture about the Russian Facebook campaign and the Mueller probe? "Super duper bullshit without real proof of wrongdoing?" Let's both work at being more respectful in expressing our skepticism, eh? Glass house you say?
How many times have I written anything like this?
They should hope for prison. This is military tribunal and firing squad material.
Based on text message that reads like a joke from one lover to another.
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Post by kadee79 on Jan 23, 2018 12:13:03 GMT -5
And another coincidence....first hubby & I were playing cards with a couple we had become friends with down here in Ga.....only to later find out that she & I graduated from the same high school in Decatur, Ill. 9 yrs. apart. Had many of the same teachers over the years.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2018 13:15:00 GMT -5
I ran into a sub from a bowling league (who had bowled with us a bunch of times) walking through the Silver Legacy in Reno. That is not that surprising, considering the national bowling stadium is just around the corner, and many people from around the country stay there, or next door and walk through, for nationals. Random vacations for both, not related to bowling at all on either side. So yeah, a little more surprising.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 13:24:55 GMT -5
this is a paper tiger. mark my words. Consider them marked. Mark MY words: high level operators in the FBI and DOJ are going to go to prison. GUARANTEED.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 13:27:16 GMT -5
That's a mighty large glass house you're living in, Opti. There's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the "Russian 100K Facebook campaign may have meaningfully swayed the election" narrative, which you defended as a realistic possibility. Likewise, unless and until the Mueller investigation comes back with something damning, there's more evidence to support this anti-Trump conspiracy than supports the idea that Pres. Trump's team had anything to do with the DNC hack, the Facebook ads, or whatever else the nebulous "collusion" charges have referred to over the past year. On this count, you've been outspoken in your faith that Mr. Mueller will uncover something nefarious. Hence if the present conjecture is "pushing bullshit to this level without real proof of wrong doing", what does that make your conjecture about the Russian Facebook campaign and the Mueller probe? "Super duper bullshit without real proof of wrongdoing?" Let's both work at being more respectful in expressing our skepticism, eh? Glass house you say?
How many times have I written anything like this?
They should hope for prison. This is military tribunal and firing squad material.
Based on text message that reads like a joke from one lover to another.
Well, the text message about a meeting. So, there's a meeting. And the meeting which took place after the election-- and after another text message which indicated they needed an "insurance policy" just in case Trump won the election. This mess makes Watergate look like a walk in the park.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 23, 2018 13:32:18 GMT -5
Where the hell does this come from? Are you actually supporting a military takeover? Extreme, but necessary, Billis. Extreme... but necessary. If it's done right, casualties won't exceed the low five digits. It's perfectly within US law, and within international law to try traitors outside the civilian criminal justice system via military tribunal-- and yes, we still have (though we haven't used in some time that I'm aware of) firing squads. We have a coup within our government led by a former POTUS, a former Presidential candidate, and agents at the highest levels of the federal government-- in pursuit of their aims, they defrauded a FISA court judge (unless the judge was in on it?) using fabricated evidence with the aim of removing from office, the duly elected President Of The United States. If you can't execute people for this level of treason, then our country is lost. These people all represent a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States and they must be dealt with or it's going to be battle of the deep state in perpetuity. The time to nip this shit in the bud and send the strongest possible message to others who might imagine a similar plot is right now.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 23, 2018 13:32:54 GMT -5
"Delusional" is one of the words that we are allowed, right?
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