"I'm not Patsy the slave"

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Donna Brazile has come out swinging again about the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
This excerpt article from her book talks about replacing Hillary and Senator Kaine with Biden and Cory Booker after Hillary's fainting spell. (I have to think Hillary's fainting must have been more serious than let on at the time?)


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donna-brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/ar-AAurG7H?li=BBnb7Kz
Regardless of what I think, obviously Brazile was one upset person with the whole Clinton team.
I am thinking this book will out sell Hillary's book by about two million copies, because not only many Democrats, but every Republican will be buying this shocker.

p.s. Trump was evidently correct once again about Hillary and her health troubles!

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An excerpt from her book:

Brazile paints a scathing portrait of Clinton as a well-intentioned, historic candidate whose campaign was badly mismanaged, took minority constituencies for granted and made blunders with “stiff” and “stupid” messages. The campaign was so lacking in passion for the candidate, she writes, that its New York headquarters felt like a sterile hospital ward where “someone had died.”



Brazile alleges that Clinton’s top aides routinely disrespected her and put the DNC on a “starvation diet,” depriving it of funding for voter turnout operations.



As one of her party’s most prominent black strategists, Brazile also recounts fiery disagreements with Clinton’s staffers — including a conference call in which she told three senior campaign officials, Charlie Baker, Marlon Marshall and Dennis Cheng, that she was being treated like a slave.



“I’m not Patsey the slave,” Brazile recalls telling them, a reference to the character played by Lupita Nyong’o in the film, “12 Years a Slave.” “Y’all keep whipping me and whipping me and you never give me any money or any way to do my damn job. I am not going to be your whipping girl!”

[Tennesseer]

Nov 4, 2017 21:15:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Donna Brazile has come out swinging again about the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
This excerpt article from her book talks about replacing Hillary and Senator Kaine with Biden and Cory Booker after Hillary's fainting spell. (I have to think Hillary's fainting must have been more serious than let on at the time?)


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donna-brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/ar-AAurG7H?li=BBnb7Kz
Regardless of what I think, obviously Brazile was one upset person with the whole Clinton team.
I am thinking this book will out sell Hillary's book by about two million copies, because not only many Democrats, but every Republican will be buying this shocker.

p.s. Trump was evidently correct once again about Hillary and her health troubles!

Your buddy paul posted last July, 2016, Hillary would be dead in two weeks from late term Parkinson's disease. Hillary is still alive. Can you give us an update on her expected death date?

[weltschmerz]

Nov 4, 2017 21:15:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Donna Brazile has come out swinging again about the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
This excerpt article from her book talks about replacing Hillary and Senator Kaine with Biden and Cory Booker after Hillary's fainting spell. (I have to think Hillary's fainting must have been more serious than let on at the time?)


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donna-brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/ar-AAurG7H?li=BBnb7Kz
Regardless of what I think, obviously Brazile was one upset person with the whole Clinton team.
I am thinking this book will out sell Hillary's book by about two million copies, because not only many Democrats, but every Republican will be buying this shocker.

p.s. Trump was evidently correct once again about Hillary and her health troubles!

What's your point? Trump is  in such bad shape, he couldn't walk a few blocks in Paris, and followed everyone in a golf cart.
This, despite his phony doctor's letter about how he's the healthiest candidate who has ever run for office.
No doctor wrote that letter.
It sounds clueless and egotistical enough to lead one to believe that Trump wrote it himself and paid some doctor bigly to sign it.

[OldCoyote]

In an explosive new memoir, Brazile details widespread dysfunction and dissension throughout the Democratic Party, including secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the process of removing Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.) from the ticket after Clinton’s Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.

Yea, if I remember right, one side of this board was like, Ain't nothing there ,,,, Didn't happen!,,,,  hey, Look over here. ,,,and most of all!

Trump did this, Trump did that!!

[billisonboard]

... secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the process of removing Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.) from the ticket after Clinton’s Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.

Seems appropriate for the head of the organization to privately look at contingency plans in that situation.

[Value Buy]

Nov 4, 2017 23:12:29 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 4, 2017 21:15:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Donna Brazile has come out swinging again about the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
This excerpt article from her book talks about replacing Hillary and Senator Kaine with Biden and Cory Booker after Hillary's fainting spell. (I have to think Hillary's fainting must have been more serious than let on at the time?)


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donna-brazile-i-considered-replacing-clinton-with-biden-as-2016-democratic-nominee/ar-AAurG7H?li=BBnb7Kz
Regardless of what I think, obviously Brazile was one upset person with the whole Clinton team.
I am thinking this book will out sell Hillary's book by about two million copies, because not only many Democrats, but every Republican will be buying this shocker.

p.s. Trump was evidently correct once again about Hillary and her health troubles!

Your buddy paul posted last July, 2016, Hillary would be dead in two weeks from late term Parkinson's disease. Hillary is still alive. Can you give us an update on her expected death date?

My buddy Paul........... seriously?
I do not think I need to speculate on her death date, as I never remember agreeing with Paul on this exact proclamation of Parkinson's disease, but I do give you an A+ for trying to label me. Paul is quite able to defend himself without me helping (or hindering) him.
I did mention in a post above Hillary's health must have been worse than claimed by Hillary and the Democrats, otherwise, why would Brazile make such a claim of putting a team together to replace the nominees?
And why was Bernie not considered as the replacement? All the major liberals felt Bernie could beat Trump in the fall election.
I assume he was too white for Brazile and the DNC, and was not a favorite of blacks and Hispanics either.
She could have had a Sanders/Warren ticket and they would have won in a heartbeat. White soccer moms would have returned to the Democratic feel good zone. A fuzzy likeable grandfather with an ass kicking female running mate would have taken it home.

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Nov 5, 2017 9:20:49 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

... secret deliberations over using her powers as interim DNC chair to initiate the process of removing Clinton and running mate Sen. Tim Kaine (Va.) from the ticket after Clinton’s Sept. 11, 2016, collapse in New York City.

Seems appropriate for the head of the organization to privately look at contingency plans in that situation.

Yes, but to not mention Bernie Sanders in the same paragraph as Biden, is a slap at a major portion of the far left wing of the party.

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 11:23:44 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 5, 2017 9:20:49 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Seems appropriate for the head of the organization to privately look at contingency plans in that situation.

Yes, but to not mention Bernie Sanders in the same paragraph as Biden, is a slap at a major portion of the far left wing of the party.

I would have to read the actual "paragraph" from the book to be sure he wasn't mentioned in it.

[Value Buy]

Nov 5, 2017 11:28:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:23:44 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes, but to not mention Bernie Sanders in the same paragraph as Biden, is a slap at a major portion of the far left wing of the party.

I would have to read the actual "paragraph" from the book to be sure he wasn't mentioned in it.

Very true, but what was quoted from the book in the article sure did not show any thought towards Bernie.
After all, Bernie was a rather good runner up behind her.

And since she had already reached out to him in September that it was rigged against him, makes a compelling argument he should have been first choice.  

[kadee79]

Brazile's Growing Pile of Nonsense....

As I was writing this post, news broke that Brazile also claims in her book that after Clinton’s fainting episode she seriously considered replacing Clinton on the ticket with Joe Biden and Cory Booker because her campaign was “anemic” and had taken on the “odor of failure”. She chose Biden-Booker because she decided they had the best chance to shore up support from working class voters. But Brazile says she “thought of Hillary, and all the women in the country who were so proud of and excited about her. I could not do this to them.”

This adds an important new detail to the story because this is a ridiculous claim. The chair of the DNC has no power to unilaterally replace a candidate on the ticket. The candidate must resign from the ticket or die – I believe there may be a reference to ‘incapacitation’, candidate on life support after a stroke, etc. But none of those three things happened. If one of those things does happen the decision falls to the entire DNC – a few hundred members from across the country – to meet and decide on a replacement. This is a power Brazile quite clearly did not have. So the whole storyline makes no sense and did not happen.

More probable is that when Clinton fainted she started brainstorming who should replace her if she turned out to be seriously ill and resigned from the ticket or died. That makes total sense. She had zero power to replace Clinton unilaterally and the choice wouldn’t have been hers regardless. But as interim chair of the DNC she would have been a major player in the decision-making. So it makes sense that she might have started gaming out possible scenarios. But she seems to have taken this plausible interlude and recast it as a moment of decision in which she could see Clinton was flagging among working class voters in the midwest, considered replacing her with Joe Biden but finally could not break the hearts of the women who supported Clinton.

This is all pure fantasy. She’s married a non-existent power with a highly improbable prescience to create a kind of retrospective, fantasy football version of the nomination in which the momentous and weighty decisions all fell to her. It is highly reminiscent of the agonizing call in which she purportedly informed Bernie Sanders that he’d been right all along and the nomination race had been “rigged”.

This and other claims from Brazile’s book which have come out in the last few hours only confirm me in thinking that her claims are at least self-serving, in other cases highly improbable and in some cases literally impossible.

talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-dnchfa-agreement-donna-braziles-growing-pile-of-nonsense

[kadee79]

Nov 5, 2017 11:39:21 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:28:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I would have to read the actual "paragraph" from the book to be sure he wasn't mentioned in it.

Very true, but what was quoted from the book in the article sure did not show any thought towards Bernie.
After all, Bernie was a rather good runner up behind her.

And since she had already reached out to him in September that it was rigged against him, makes a compelling argument he should have been first choice.  

It makes perfect sense to me that he wasn't mentioned....Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!  Some people seem to keep forgetting this fact.  He has contributed NOTHING to the Democratic party in any way, he is an independent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are many who are Democrats or lean that way (including me) who would NOT vote for him, I'd write in someone else first, maybe even myself!  Sorry, but Bernie is WAY out in 'left' field!...much to far for me or this time in history! 

[Tennesseer]

Nov 5, 2017 11:22:22 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 4, 2017 23:12:29 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Your buddy paul posted last July, 2016, Hillary would be dead in two weeks from late term Parkinson's disease. Hillary is still alive. Can you give us an update on her expected death date?

My buddy Paul........... seriously?
I do not think I need to speculate on her death date, as I never remember agreeing with Paul on this exact proclamation of Parkinson's disease, but I do give you an A+ for trying to label me. Paul is quite able to defend himself without me helping (or hindering) him.
I did mention in a post above Hillary's health must have been worse than claimed by Hillary and the Democrats, otherwise, why would Brazile make such a claim of putting a team together to replace the nominees?
And why was Bernie not considered as the replacement? All the major liberals felt Bernie could beat Trump in the fall election.
I assume he was too white for Brazile and the DNC, and was not a favorite of blacks and Hispanics either.
She could have had a Sanders/Warren ticket and they would have won in a heartbeat. White soccer moms would have returned to the Democratic feel good zone. A fuzzy likeable grandfather with an ass kicking female running mate would have taken it home.

Who are the "major liberals" who thought Sanders could be trump? Did they verbally 'feel' it before the general election or after it?

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 11:39:21 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:28:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I would have to read the actual "paragraph" from the book to be sure he wasn't mentioned in it.

Very true, but what was quoted from the book in the article sure did not show any thought towards Bernie.
...

Not sure what you are referencing as "quoted from the book". I read paraphrase such as:

... Brazile writes that she considered a dozen combinations to replace the nominees ... (from earlier link)

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Nov 5, 2017 11:46:54 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:39:21 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Very true, but what was quoted from the book in the article sure did not show any thought towards Bernie.
After all, Bernie was a rather good runner up behind her.

And since she had already reached out to him in September that it was rigged against him, makes a compelling argument he should have been first choice.  

It makes perfect sense to me that he wasn't mentioned....Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!  Some people seem to keep forgetting this fact.  He has contributed NOTHING to the Democratic party in any way, he is an independent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are many who are Democrats or lean that way (including me) who would NOT vote for him, I'd write in someone else first, maybe even myself!  Sorry, but Bernie is WAY out in 'left' field!...much to far for me or this time in history! 

People also choose to ignore there are things required of party candidates like fund-raising which Bernie did not meet and I believe Donald also did not meet for the GOP. Only in an alternate universe does it make sense that party outsiders who do not meet party commitments should be treated equal to candidates who are longtime party members in good standing.

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Nov 5, 2017 11:47:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 5, 2017 11:22:22 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

My buddy Paul........... seriously?
I do not think I need to speculate on her death date, as I never remember agreeing with Paul on this exact proclamation of Parkinson's disease, but I do give you an A+ for trying to label me. Paul is quite able to defend himself without me helping (or hindering) him.
I did mention in a post above Hillary's health must have been worse than claimed by Hillary and the Democrats, otherwise, why would Brazile make such a claim of putting a team together to replace the nominees?
And why was Bernie not considered as the replacement? All the major liberals felt Bernie could beat Trump in the fall election.
I assume he was too white for Brazile and the DNC, and was not a favorite of blacks and Hispanics either.
She could have had a Sanders/Warren ticket and they would have won in a heartbeat. White soccer moms would have returned to the Democratic feel good zone. A fuzzy likeable grandfather with an ass kicking female running mate would have taken it home.

Who are the "major liberals" who thought Sanders could be Trump? Did they verbally 'feel' it before the general election or after it?

I'm wondering who these people are as well. There were various polls on that scenario.

[Opti]

Nov 5, 2017 11:22:22 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 4, 2017 23:12:29 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Your buddy paul posted last July, 2016, Hillary would be dead in two weeks from late term Parkinson's disease. Hillary is still alive. Can you give us an update on her expected death date?

My buddy Paul........... seriously?
I do not think I need to speculate on her death date, as I never remember agreeing with Paul on this exact proclamation of Parkinson's disease, but I do give you an A+ for trying to label me. Paul is quite able to defend himself without me helping (or hindering) him.
I did mention in a post above Hillary's health must have been worse than claimed by Hillary and the Democrats, otherwise, why would Brazile make such a claim of putting a team together to replace the nominees?
And why was Bernie not considered as the replacement? All the major liberals felt Bernie could beat Trump in the fall election.
I assume he was too white for Brazile and the DNC, and was not a favorite of blacks and Hispanics either.
She could have had a Sanders/Warren ticket and they would have won in a heartbeat. White soccer moms would have returned to the Democratic feel good zone. A fuzzy likeable grandfather with an ass kicking female running mate would have taken it home.

I'd bet money on the editors or publishing house of her book wanting her to emphasize and write about that so the books will sell. MO.

[thyme4change]

I have thought through contingency plans should my husband die. It doesn't mean it is imminent, just that he is important. This lady having these thoughts is not an indicator that Hillary had health problems. Does the book have any proof that there were real health problems, or are we just sticking with the same speculation that right wingers were spouting last year?

[kadee79]

And now this from Brazile....

Donna Brazile, the former interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), on Sunday said she found no evidence “whatsoever” that the 2016 primary process was “rigged.”

“I found no evidence, none whatsoever,” Brazile said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

Brazile claimed the only thing she found “was this memorandum that prevented the DNC from running its own operation.”

In a piece in Politico on Tuesday, Brazile accused Hillary Clinton’s campaign of exerting improper financial and decision-making control over the DNC before she won the party’s nomination.

Asked on Sunday to comment on Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) claim that the 2016 Democratic primary was rigged for Clinton, Brazile said, “I don’t think she meant the word rigged.”

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/brazile-i-found-no-evidence-that-dem-primaries-were-rigged/ar-AAut9bw?li=BBnb7Kz

[thyme4change]

Nov 5, 2017 16:35:30 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And now this from Brazile....

Donna Brazile, the former interim chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), on Sunday said she found no evidence “whatsoever” that the 2016 primary process was “rigged.”

“I found no evidence, none whatsoever,” Brazile said on ABC News’ “This Week.”

Brazile claimed the only thing she found “was this memorandum that prevented the DNC from running its own operation.”

In a piece in Politico on Tuesday, Brazile accused Hillary Clinton’s campaign of exerting improper financial and decision-making control over the DNC before she won the party’s nomination.

Asked on Sunday to comment on Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) claim that the 2016 Democratic primary was rigged for Clinton, Brazile said, “I don’t think she meant the word rigged.”

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/brazile-i-found-no-evidence-that-dem-primaries-were-rigged/ar-AAut9bw?li=BBnb7Kz

Are you implying that certain people who hate Clinton has misconstrued statements to continue the plight to put her in jail? Unthinkable! What would be their motivation? It isn't like they need to distract from other investigations of misdeeds done during the election.

[grits]

The post has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with the corruption in the DNC, and the unethical way in which a candidate's campaign was allowed to run the party. Regulations should be changed to make it illegal.  
Donna Brazile should be commended for taking a stand, and exposing the vast corruption. Now, it remains to be seen if supporters of the Democratic party will actually rise up, and demand change. 

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 18:14:40 GMT -5 grits said:

.... Regulations should be changed to make it illegal. ...

So government should step in to regulate the internal works of this private organization?

[grits]

Nov 5, 2017 18:37:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 5, 2017 18:14:40 GMT -5 grits said:

.... Regulations should be changed to make it illegal. ...

So government should step in to regulate the internal works of this private organizatn?

A private organization that plays a large role in choosing the POTUS. Yes, it should have guidelines established against unethical behavior, and corruption. The DNC already took a hit because it spread lies on Sanders to sway the vote.  Now, we see it goes even deeper. 

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 18:41:31 GMT -5 grits said:

Nov 5, 2017 18:37:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

So government should step in to regulate the internal works of this private organizatn?

A private organization that plays a large role in choosing the POTUS. Yes, it should have guidelines established against unethical behavior, and corruption. The DNC already took a hit because it spread lies on Sanders to sway the vote.  Now, we see it goes even deeper. 

I would prefer that the voters decide instead of the government. The opportunity for opposition parties in power to use governmental power to attack rivals would be incredibly tempting and dangerous.

[grits]

Nov 5, 2017 18:51:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 5, 2017 18:41:31 GMT -5 grits said:

A private organization that plays a large role in choosing the POTUS. Yes, it should have guidelines established against unethical behavior, and corruption. The DNC already took a hit because it spread lies on Sanders to sway the vote.  Now, we see it goes even deeper. 

I would prefer that the voters decide instead of the government. The opportunity for opposition parties in power to use governmental power to attack rivals would be incredibly tempting and dangerous.

The voters don't even have full choice of the candidate.  The super delegates should go. Then, it has a better chance of the voters really choosing the candidate. 

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 19:28:51 GMT -5 grits said:

Nov 5, 2017 18:51:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I would prefer that the voters decide instead of the government. The opportunity for opposition parties in power to use governmental power to attack rivals would be incredibly tempting and dangerous.

The voters don't even have full choice of the candidate.  The super delegates should go. Then, it has a better chance of the voters really choosing the candidate. 

I fully support you becoming a voting delegate in the Democratic Party system and working to make that change.

[grits]

As an employee of the Federal government, the Hatch Act restricts my partisan political activities. In fact, I have to be very careful or I can be fired. 

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2017 19:50:25 GMT -5 grits said:

As an employee of the Federal government, the Hatch Act restricts my partisan political activities. In fact, I have to be very careful or I can be fired. 

Life is choice.

[grits]

I choose to be employed, and earn a living.  Therefore, I cannot be a delegate at this time. Suggesting otherwise would be ridiculous. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]