sesfw
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Post by sesfw on Mar 25, 2011 17:57:01 GMT -5
Interesting aritcle in todays Arizona Republic. Sorry I'm not talented enough to put in a link, but the subject line is the article title.
"... The home was being used as a maternity center for Chinese mothers paying thousands of dollars to gve birth in the Unit5ed States so their children would automatically gain citizenship ...' This is in a suburb of Los Angeles.
These are women that are travelling to the US legally on tourist or student visas and given birth for the US citizenship of the babies. I still say, BABIES BORN IN THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE THE SAME LEGAL STATUS AS THE BIRTH MOTHER. If mom is on a tourist/student visa, then so is the child, and when the visa is over they need to go home without US citizenship. If mom is here illegally, then so is the child. The father has no say in this.
This is not just a Latino problem for the US. People from all over the world is doing this and it's time for the 14th amendment to be redefined.
Flame away.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 25, 2011 18:13:28 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 25, 2011 18:18:52 GMT -5
here's the story I saw on msnbc. as warped as this is, I'm happy to see this. I'm happy to see that people other than Hispanics are doing this. the racism that has accompanied the majority of the arguments involving illegal immigration has been just obscene. fwiw, I am the child of a legal immigrant. my dad followed all the rules, and did everything by the book in order to obtain his green card. I'm appalled by the number of people who live here illegally, but it's a bigger problem than just "sending 'em back to Mexico" to paraphrase some comments I've seen. I hope that this makes people wake up and realize that big things need to change.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 25, 2011 18:20:25 GMT -5
Flame away.
Not from me I agree 100% with you since in CA, I am slowly but surely becoming a minority out here with the Hispanics in the majority with tremendous voting power..as a matter of fact the Hispanic community leaders are beginning to tell us if we don't like it with them calling most of the shots in CA, then leave...or go back to where we came from..
I would but too dam cold in Boston MA and I lost my Boston accent..
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Post by jkapp on Mar 25, 2011 20:20:03 GMT -5
here's the story I saw on msnbc. as warped as this is, I'm happy to see this. I'm happy to see that people other than Hispanics are doing this. the racism that has accompanied the majority of the arguments involving illegal immigration has been just obscene. fwiw, I am the child of a legal immigrant. my dad followed all the rules, and did everything by the book in order to obtain his green card. I'm appalled by the number of people who live here illegally, but it's a bigger problem than just "sending 'em back to Mexico" to paraphrase some comments I've seen. I hope that this makes people wake up and realize that big things need to change. I think the biggest difference here being that we could much more easily deal with a afew hundred, or a few thousand, Chinese or others doing this than we are several MILLION Mexicans...sorry to say, as it sounds cliched, but IMO millions of people scrambling over a border between two countries is an invasion.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 25, 2011 21:15:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2011 10:14:31 GMT -5
I want to know how these people get visas? Who gives the visa to a pregnant woman? I have friends and family who have been denied visas right and left... last a friend died, and the parent/sibling wanted to come here to have his body flown home, settle out things, and they were denied... saying they didn't need to be here to accomplish those things...
Who gives single pregnant women with no family connections visas?
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upstatemom
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Post by upstatemom on Mar 27, 2011 14:28:34 GMT -5
I want to know how these people get visas? Who gives the visa to a pregnant woman? I have friends and family who have been denied visas right and left... last a friend died, and the parent/sibling wanted to come here to have his body flown home, settle out things, and they were denied... saying they didn't need to be here to accomplish those things... Who gives single pregnant women with no family connections visas? I would bet that a few well place dollars in someones palm helps..
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Post by upstatemom on Mar 27, 2011 14:28:52 GMT -5
double post
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 28, 2011 8:59:11 GMT -5
This "birthing tourism" is a booming business in Shanghai....and it's been going on for quite a while. This is the first time you're hearing about it? Zhou has helped as many as 600 mothers give birth in the U.S. in the past five years. Some are doing so to skirt China's strict one-child law, which doesn't apply if a child is born to Chinese parents outside China. www.npr.org/2010/11/22/131513165/born-in-the-u-s-a-some-chinese-plan-it-that-way
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