ken a.k.a OMK
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jul 4, 2017 15:02:45 GMT -5
Blah, blah blah. What standards are you talking about? Fake news vs real facts? I'm not shrugging over anyone. You make statements that are not true and people point it out to you with credible links for you to educate yourself and we get blah, blah blah.  |
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weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 4, 2017 18:15:53 GMT -5
Oh, let's not forget the Clintons! Bill received $500k for a speech in Moscow by those with ties to Russian intelligence. The "Clinton Foundation" received millions from Uranium One which was sold to Russia giving them control of 20% of the uranium capacity. And, that sale required approval by oh yeah, Sec of State Hillary Clinton. And on an on. Uranium One is a Canadian company. We don't need Hillary's approval to sell. |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 5, 2017 2:13:50 GMT -5
.., the DNC interfered with the election.... I know that the American citizens who make up the DNC were very much involved in the election process. I am curious how they "interfered" with it? |
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 5, 2017 6:44:25 GMT -5
Oh, let's not forget the Clintons! Bill received $500k for a speech in Moscow by those with ties to Russian intelligence. The "Clinton Foundation" received millions from Uranium One which was sold to Russia giving them control of 20% of the uranium capacity. And, that sale required approval by oh yeah, Sec of State Hillary Clinton. And on an on. Uranium One is a Canadian company. We don't need Hillary's approval to sell. Hmmm, Hillary was meddling in Canadian affairs?? |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 6, 2017 22:33:37 GMT -5
Oh, let's not forget the Clintons! Bill received $500k for a speech in Moscow by those with ties to Russian intelligence. The "Clinton Foundation" received millions from Uranium One which was sold to Russia giving them control of 20% of the uranium capacity. And, that sale required approval by oh yeah, Sec of State Hillary Clinton. And on an on. Uranium One is a Canadian company. We don't need Hillary's approval to sell. There you go again with those inconvenient facts.... |
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 7, 2017 1:32:51 GMT -5
Uranium One is a Canadian company. We don't need Hillary's approval to sell. There you go again with those inconvenient facts.... Facts are pesky things, are they not? However, if Trump is selling, Shooby is buying, no matter what it is. "We had Hillary Clinton give Russia 20 percent of the uranium in our country. You know what uranium is, right? It's a thing called nuclear weapons and other things. Like lots of things are done with uranium, including some bad things," Trump said during a press conference. (Isn't he erudite and well-spoken? Sounds like someone in grade two.) www.cnbc.com/2017/02/16/trump-claims--falsely--that-clinton-gave-russia-20-of-us-uranium.html |
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 7, 2017 1:39:48 GMT -5
So where's all the media criticism of Obama? Not only did the Russians interfere with the election process, but Obama let it happen. Furthermore, the DNC interfered with the election.... The DNC is allowed to rig elections. Russia isn't.  |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 7, 2017 8:11:01 GMT -5
So where's all the media criticism of Obama? Not only did the Russians interfere with the election process, but Obama let it happen. Furthermore, the DNC interfered with the election.... The DNC is allowed to rig elections. Russia isn't. My favorite was that leaked email that revealed them actually requesting from their own media center a rush job on a written transcript of a show that was airing at the time. |
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 7, 2017 8:33:13 GMT -5
What makes anyone think obama wanted Hillary to win?
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 7, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -5
The DNC is allowed to rig elections. Russia isn't. My favorite was that leaked email that revealed them actually requesting from their own media center a rush job on a written transcript of a show that was airing at the time. O... kay.  |
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 7, 2017 11:09:32 GMT -5
What makes anyone think obama wanted Hillary to win? Pres. Trump spoke openly about dismantling Pres. Obama's legacy. The media made a big deal about the election being a referendum on whether Americans approved of the direction the Democrats had taken the country. Pres. Trump's victory was quite the humiliation for Pres. Obama. |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 7, 2017 11:28:01 GMT -5
My favorite was that leaked email that revealed them actually requesting from their own media center a rush job on a written transcript of a show that was airing at the time. O... kay. I had quite the discussion on this one. But it was just a silly example of the DNC "rigging" the election because somehow it proved they were controlling what was broadcast. |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 7, 2017 11:33:09 GMT -5
Another favorite was the behind the scene leak of one of the debate questions: " WARNING, WARNING: You are going to be asked a question about one of the top issues of the day." Bet they didn't see that question coming.  |
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 7, 2017 11:37:45 GMT -5
O... kay. I had quite the discussion on this one. But it was just a silly example of the DNC "rigging" the election because somehow it proved they were controlling what was broadcast. I remember that discussion. I took part in it. The alt right had a litany of "smoking gun" e-mails. Some hits. A lot of misses. The usual.  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2017 11:37:49 GMT -5
The "Clinton Foundation" received millions from Uranium One which was sold to Russia giving them control of 20% of the uranium capacity. And, that sale required approval by oh yeah, Sec of State Hillary Clinton. And on an on. i would be interested in hearing about this, given that U1 is a Canadian company. also the approval came from the Foreign Investment Committee, which Clinton has nothing to do with, not the State Department. like most of what you (and others) post here, this reeks of fake news smell. "and so on." anticipated reply: none. |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 7, 2017 11:41:02 GMT -5
Another favorite was the behind the scene leak of one of the debate questions: " WARNING, WARNING: You are going to be asked a question about one of the top issues of the day." Bet they didn't see that question coming. The e-mails were more about proving intent. Simple quantitative analysis sufficed to prove that the media and DNC leadership were hopelessly biased in favour of Ms. Clinton. I think the most famous study on the topic came out of Harvard shortly after the election was over. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 21:48:02 GMT -5
What makes anyone think obama wanted Hillary to win? Once it was Trump or Hillary... I can believe that Obama preferred her over him... especially considering their opposing promises of their plans for Obama's legacy (both paraphrased - Trump: "I'll end all of Obama's damage", Clinton: "I'll continue Obama's programs"). |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 9, 2017 21:28:00 GMT -5
What makes anyone think obama wanted Hillary to win? Pres. Trump spoke openly about dismantling Pres. Obama's legacy. The media made a big deal about the election being a referendum on whether Americans approved of the direction the Democrats had taken the country. Pres. Trump's victory was quite the humiliation for Pres. Obama. It might have been a refrerendum had Trump won more votes - he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million. So no referendum, no humiliation fir Pres Obama. Quite the opposide, in fact |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 10, 2017 22:25:10 GMT -5
Pres. Trump spoke openly about dismantling Pres. Obama's legacy. The media made a big deal about the election being a referendum on whether Americans approved of the direction the Democrats had taken the country. Pres. Trump's victory was quite the humiliation for Pres. Obama. It might have been a refrerendum had Trump won more votes - he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million. So no referendum, no humiliation fir Pres Obama. Quite the opposide, in fact Re a referendum: take it up with the media. Also, you say "no referendum", but you clearly do consider it a referendum, with the popular vote deciding. Re Pres. Obama: it was a humiliation for him for Trump not to be laughed out of the Republican race, let alone clinch the nomination and go on to claim the presidency. There's a reason he looked like he wanted to hack Pres. Trump to death with an ice pick during their first meeting post-election. |
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