Now we know Obama knew of Russian meddling, and he let Rome

[Value Buy]

while he fiddled around.
Hail Caesar!

www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/by-criticizing-obama-trump-contradicts-his-own-comments-on-russian-meddling/ar-BBDizSM?li=BBnb7Kz
Please note, it was even hard to find an article on it, as they had to label it an attack headline against Trump.......

Lordy Lordy, Obama knew it, thought Hillary was going to win and did nothing.........
Meanwhile, Obama is in Bali white water rafting..........enjoying retirement while Biden sits on a lifeguard chair pondering just ending it all by slumping off the chair into the water.........

[Rob Base 2.0]

VB u missed the part where Obama "struggled" on punishing Russia. And he did make Russia stop in August after he gave Putin a verbal warning :-)

u can read about it here (if i posted it right)

ymam.proboards.com/thread/53466/obama-secret-struggle-punish-russia

[kadee79]

And if he had openly done anything all the GOP would have been screaming....RIGGED ELECTION!

[Green Eyed Lady]

Yep. We can't have one side screaming about how Russia rigged the election. That's for sure.

[Rob Base 2.0]

I'm just glad Russia stopped in August after Obama told Putin to "knock it off" .......I mean it's not like there was just sworn Congressional testimony that Russia tried (but didn't succeed) to actually hack ballots.

[bean29]

Lordy Lordy, Obama knew it, thought Hillary was going to win and did nothing.........
Meanwhile, Obama is in Bali white water rafting..........enjoying retirement while Biden sits on a lifeguard chair pondering just ending it all by slumping off the chair into the water.........

Kind of a weird statement as Biden wasn't running for re-election.

[Value Buy]

Jun 27, 2017 9:59:59 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And if he had openly done anything all the GOP would have been screaming....RIGGED ELECTION!

Trump had already claimed it was rigged. He was correct, but did not realize not only the Dems were rigging it, so were the Russians.
Evidently, Obama knew both sides were doing it

Well, rigged by the Russians, is harsh. They only tried to manipulate the outcome while the Dems blew the rigging effort.
I guess they balanced each other out

[kadee79]

Jun 27, 2017 13:44:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 27, 2017 9:59:59 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

And if he had openly done anything all the GOP would have been screaming....RIGGED ELECTION!

Trump had already claimed it was rigged. He was correct, but did not realize not only the Dems were rigging it, so were the Russians.
Evidently, Obama knew both sides were doing it

Well, rigged by the Russians, is harsh. They only tried to manipulate the outcome while the Dems blew the rigging effort.
I guess they balanced each other out

Exactly what do you think the Democrats did to "rig" the election?

[Gardening Grandma]

Obama deserves a vacation - after 8 years of being trashed by the right wing media.

I'm glad to see him enjoying himself. Faux"news" and the righties can eff themselves.

[Value Buy]

Jun 27, 2017 20:48:50 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Obama deserves a vacation - after 8 years of being trashed by the right wing media.

I'm glad to see him enjoying himself. Faux"news" and the righties can eff themselves.

And I imagine when he is called in to testify under oath to Congress on why he did nothing about Russian meddling in August of 2016, it will only because the Republicans are still trying to destroy him

[billisonboard]

Jun 28, 2017 19:27:29 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...And I imagine when he is called in to testify under oath to Congress on why he did nothing about Russian meddling in August of 2016, it will only because the Republicans are still trying to destroy him

Yes, to destroy any element of positiveness that could continue to exist in his legacy.

[Gardening Grandma]

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
ANY action he might have taken would have had the Republicans screaming "trying to influence the election"
Now, they want to blame him for the POS THEY put in office.   
Sheesh! Just accept that their incompetent arrogant tweeter is their own damn fault and stop blaming Hillary, Obama and anyone else.

[Value Buy]

Jun 28, 2017 19:32:37 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:27:29 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...And I imagine when he is called in to testify under oath to Congress on why he did nothing about Russian meddling in August of 2016, it will only because the Republicans are still trying to destroy him

Yes, to destroy any element of positiveness that could continue to exist in his legacy.

His Presidential legacy is looking worse by the day.
Iran
Iraq
Syria
Afghanistan
Russia
ISIS and even AQ is still able to wage destruction
All are quagmires after his eight years.
One might have been able to argue healthcare, but he left office with it bankrupt and not funded. It was to pay for itself.

I will give him credit for the improved economy.

[Gardening Grandma]

All of the above were quagmires long before 2008. Do you not know ANY history?

The more conservatives try to diminish Obama's achievements, the more ignorant they make themselves look.

Stop deflecting from the garbage YOU have in the Oval Office now.

[Value Buy]

Jun 28, 2017 19:39:21 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

All of the above were quagmires long before 2008. Do you not know ANY history?

The more conservatives try to diminish Obama's achievements, the more ignorant they make themselves look.

Stop deflecting from the garbage YOU have in the Oval Office now.

We all know it was his failure to make any decision to solve those issues.
He drew the red line in Syria
He knew Russia was meddling in the election, and failed to do anything about it, kept quiet, and looks like he tried to tie Trump to it, on his way out.
Obummercare was a broken program from day one.

[billisonboard]

Jun 28, 2017 19:43:06 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...
We all know it was his failure to make any decision to solve those issues.
...

I don't know that. My thought is that they aren't solvable.

[Value Buy]

Jun 28, 2017 19:37:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
ANY action he might have taken would have had the Republicans screaming "trying to influence the election"
Now, they want to blame him for the POS THEY put in office.   
Sheesh! Just accept that their incompetent arrogant tweeter is their own damn fault and stop blaming Hillary, Obama and anyone else.

I need to know whether you and I are related.
I have two sister in laws who sound exactly like you.

[dondub]

She's much nicer than some posters.

[zibazinski]

🤗

[OldCoyote]

Don't forget Obama colluding with the Russians!!

www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

[Gardening Grandma]

Jun 28, 2017 19:43:06 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:39:21 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

All of the above were quagmires long before 2008. Do you not know ANY history?

The more conservatives try to diminish Obama's achievements, the more ignorant they make themselves look.

Stop deflecting from the garbage YOU have in the Oval Office now.

We all know it was his failure to make any decision to solve those issues.
He drew the red line in Syria
He knew Russia was meddling in the election, and failed to do anything about it, kept quiet, and looks like he tried to tie Trump to it, on his way out.
Obummercare was a broken program from day one.

oh yeah. It was "Obummer's" fault that multiple members of Team Trump met with the Russians prior to the election and lied about it. Riiiiiight.

[billisonboard]

Jun 28, 2017 21:48:41 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Don't forget Obama colluding with the Russians!!

www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

Yes, the President of the United States was involved in conducting foreign relations.

[OldCoyote]

Jun 28, 2017 23:59:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 28, 2017 21:48:41 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Don't forget Obama colluding with the Russians!!

www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

Yes, the President of the United States was involved in conducting foreign relations.

I guess I could say that the President was trying to use the Russians to sway the election!

Like telling them to back off, until after the elections

I can only imagine the firestorm if Trump had said that.

[billisonboard]

Jun 29, 2017 6:53:33 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Jun 28, 2017 23:59:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yes, the President of the United States was involved in conducting foreign relations.

I guess I could ...

I guess you could also. But will you?

[billisonboard]

Jun 28, 2017 21:48:41 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Don't forget Obama colluding with the Russians!!

www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

This would be an interesting attack on former President Obama if it included information that indicated questionable behaviors towards Russia during the second Obama term. What did happen with that missile system?

[zibazinski]

Jun 28, 2017 19:46:32 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:37:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
ANY action he might have taken would have had the Republicans screaming "trying to influence the election"
Now, they want to blame him for the POS THEY put in office.   
Sheesh! Just accept that their incompetent arrogant tweeter is their own damn fault and stop blaming Hillary, Obama and anyone else.

I need to know whether you and I are related.
I have two sister in laws who sound exactly like you.

😢

[Phoenix84]

So where's all the media criticism of Obama?

Not only did the Russians interfere with the election process, but Obama let it happen.  Furthermore, the DNC interfered with the election....

[Shooby]

Oh, let's not forget the Clintons!  Bill received $500k for a speech in Moscow by those with ties to Russian intelligence.  The "Clinton Foundation" received millions from Uranium One which was sold to Russia giving them control of 20% of the uranium capacity.  And, that sale required approval by oh yeah, Sec of State Hillary Clinton. And on an on.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

 Obama is no longer President and Hillary didn't win. Since you don't fact check I'll give you this on the uranium deal. You should read the whole article.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.dc3a13f19ff7

[Shooby]

Jul 4, 2017 12:26:36 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

 Obama is no longer President and Hillary didn't win. Since you don't fact check I'll give you this on the uranium deal. You should read the whole article.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.dc3a13f19ff7

Blah blah blah.  The standards apply both ways or they don't.  If you are gonna shrug over Clinton, then I'm gonna shrug over Trump.  See how that works?