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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 17:27:18 GMT -5
So I've flown a fair bit, but honestly this has never come up. On the one occasion where a snow storm was forcast we were able to switch to earlier tickets. Son is flying home Monday and the forcast is severe thunderstorms and damaging wind? How often do these things cause issues and what is the norm action? Cancel? Reroute?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 17, 2017 17:39:27 GMT -5
So I've flown a fair bit, but honestly this has never come up. On the one occasion where a snow storm was forcast we were able to switch to earlier tickets. Son is flying home Monday and the forcast is severe thunderstorms and damaging wind? How often do these things cause issues and what is the norm action? Cancel? Reroute? Depends if there are ground stops and for how long. If the point of departure is clear of bad weather, the a/c will most likely depart. But if the destination airport has the ground stop and for how long, and it's a major hub airport, and depending what time of day it is, that could cause a flightvto be canceled. A lengthy ground stop at a major hub airport can cause a lot of problems around the country.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 17, 2017 19:04:48 GMT -5
A few years back, on my way home from Detroit, I got to spend the night at O'Hare. That was not fun. I already had a long layover and then thunderstorms started in. My flight was cancelled and I rebooked for next morning. Only problem was I got to sleep on a cot at O'Hare. Really didn't get a lot of sleep.
Turned out when the worst thunderstorm hit, some planes were already on the runway. All came back to gates as there had been so much wind and hail, the planes had to be inspected. The earlier cancellations had taken all the cots, etc. so those people were on their own to find a place to sleep.
The rental car agencies had upped the costs big time. That was what I heard on the flight the next morning. By the time I got rebooked, the clerk was telling me that all of the hotels the airline worked with were full. It was late by then and I now had an early flight so I chose the cot.
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Post by justme on Jun 17, 2017 20:51:10 GMT -5
I've never had a plane cancel because if a thunderstorm, just delay. I flew once going through Atlanta that was a cluterfuck after a storm, they were just trekking along trying to catch up. I got there fourish hours after the storm and my connecting was I think two hours late?
I've had a few planes reroute for storms - some in air and others just before we left so we are delayed sitting in the plane for an hour plus in line.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 17, 2017 21:01:44 GMT -5
I was in a big delay on the Tarmac due to severe thunderstorms, flying out of Vegas in July. (I think I remember hearing Vegas normally gets 3 storms all summer.). Missed my connection in Detroit, which was driving distance anyway, but it was really late and a big clusterfuck. I didn't even mind it, though, because I was kinda terrified when we finally did fly out of Vegas. Extremely bumpy.
Another time, we circled forever over Mineapolis, I believe, due to some small tornadoes on the ground. Again, a missed connection or something followed. We had to reroute to Atlanta in order to get back to Michigan. From Minnesota. I think that was my last flight. I really don't like to fly any more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2017 21:06:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing LAX will be fine leaving. It's a direct flight. This coast is the issue. I guess we'll just wait and see. I'm not thrilled with him flying through storms. I hope the weather picks this time as one of the frequent times it's wrong
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 17, 2017 21:18:06 GMT -5
I'm guessing LAX will be fine leaving. It's a direct flight. This coast is the issue. I guess we'll just wait and see. I'm not thrilled with him flying through storms. I hope the weather picks this time as one of the frequent times it's wrong Oped-aircraft don't usually fly through storms while in transit-they go around or above them. A/c only go through storm if they have to during takeoff or landing. And if the storms are severe enoug, the planes don't take off or land until safe.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 17, 2017 22:46:58 GMT -5
All of the above.
I've sat through delays in Detroit while thunderstorms moved though. I've had a flight canceled in Houson due to thunderstorms. Thunderstorms delayed one flight enough that we got stranded at our connecting airport in Atlanta. In Detroit, we took off between bands of storms after a 4 hour delay. We had about a 45 min window between storms, and we managed to get off the ground. I don't remember it being a bumpy flight.
I have had a flight canceled due to the threat of a snowstorm. Same storm rerouted me and I got stranded in NYC for 2 days due to canceled flights.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 18, 2017 11:10:58 GMT -5
O'Hare is always a crap shoot.
Two summers ago, flight from Philly was delayed due to thunderstorms. Thankfull'y, the airline rebooked me to a later flight for my final destination as I was going to miss the connection. That flight was cancelled so when I got to the gate for final destination, there were a ton of people and lots of names on the standby list. Plane holds about 50 people. Storms were moving in so they boarded everyone with a confirmed reservation. No standbys made the flight. It was last flight of night so they were stuck.
We actually left early as airline was trying to beat another round of thunderstorms. Must say that was one of the roughest flights I've been on but only in air about 35 or 40 minutes. I was just thrilled I wasn't on a cot in O'Hare again.
I try to avoid O'Hare, but from where I live, sometimes it can't be done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 11:57:27 GMT -5
You never know. It drives me nuts because I'm a control freak. Sometimes I've been put on a later flight and got there the same day I'd planned to, but hours later. If it's mechanical issue they have to pay for your hotel if you stay overnight but in one case, the hotel shuttle never arrived despite my calling repeatedly and I finally gave up and went across the street to the Hilton O'Hare. My company paid for it. Sometimes they just tell you when to show up the next morning and now please go away. I once got a "distressed passenger" voucher for a hotel that supposedly gave me a discount rate. I called them. They were fully booked. Voucher was useless. It will help if DS has carry-on only- it maximizes his flexibility. It also means he won't have to wait for his luggage to show up if he's stuck overnight. The later it is, the fewer baggage handlers they have around.
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jun 18, 2017 13:37:59 GMT -5
My daughter got her and her fiancée's tickets refunded at a one-way cost as their flight was delayed and then cancelled. They refunded her the cost of the tickets one-way as well as gave them new seats for free on the next flight. They were only 4 hours delayed overall. She was very polite but insistent and, I'm sure, played the 'poor college student' card. She's good at getting her way
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 18, 2017 16:46:29 GMT -5
oped -here are a couple of websites I like to visit from time to time. I have worked at several airports so I have always been interested in airplanes. I am no longer a fan of flying-too much of a hassle these days. But I still like tracking commercial flights from what was their origin and destination, how far they have traveled, and what type of aircraft is being used. All you have to do is enter the flight number of your son's trip and the airline. You can then track it as it crosses the country and even goes around bad weather (if there is any on his way). FlightAwareFlightradar24
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 17:08:42 GMT -5
Awesome! He does only have carry on. Weather still says severe thunder storms, up to 60 mph, hail...but the storm is over Pittsburg now and it doesn't seem to be impacting arrivals so we'll see.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 18, 2017 20:17:16 GMT -5
You never know. It drives me nuts because I'm a control freak. This is my problem and the reason I like direct flights and I can't stand O'Hare.
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Post by dee27 on Jun 18, 2017 20:41:14 GMT -5
DD and SIL flew from NC into Newark yesterday, and their flight was an hour longer because the storm. The flight plan changed after a delay at the airport.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 10:47:37 GMT -5
All inbound being held at origin due to storms till right when his plane is set to depart. The one set to arrive 6 hours earlier already left and is 2 1/2 hours delay to land. Cause I know you all want a play by play
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 19, 2017 11:13:41 GMT -5
All inbound being held at origin due to storms till right when his plane is set to depart. The one set to arrive 6 hours earlier already left and is 2 1/2 hours delay to land. Cause I know you all want a play by play The 'good' thing is, Oped, is what ever airline he is flying needs to get that aircraft in place for later flights either this evening or tomorrow (long haul a/c). Your son should be home today though maybe a little late.
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Post by hoops902 on Jun 19, 2017 11:54:46 GMT -5
I've flown a decent amount. I've been delayed and/or cancelled, but never had a flight rerouted. I think rerouting an existing flight is pretty rare. (now they might reroute the person onto another flight going through a different stop...but that's not really rerouting, that's just rebooking you on a different route).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:43:24 GMT -5
This is my problem and the reason I like direct flights and I can't stand O'Hare. You mean nonstops. "Direct" flights have a single flight number but they stop somewhere en route. You may have to get off the plane and into another, which may not be on time. You may need to change terminals and be groped by the TSA again. Ask me how I know this. About the worst thing I can say about living where I go is that our home airport (MCI) has nonstops mostly to hub cities and none to Europe.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 19, 2017 20:02:04 GMT -5
I've flown a decent amount. I've been delayed and/or cancelled, but never had a flight rerouted. I think rerouting an existing flight is pretty rare. (now they might reroute the person onto another flight going through a different stop...but that's not really rerouting, that's just rebooking you on a different route). I've been rerouted a lot of times. About 4 times due to snow (destination Burlington VT and I wound up in NH 3x and Syracuse once). I got rerouted when flights couldn't get into Lexington due to thunderstorms, I wound up in Cincinnati and was bussed in. I got bussed from NH to BTV on one of those reroutes. I had a connection to Lexington through Houston, and was rerouted to San Antonio. I had to pick up a flight to Houston, then to Lexington. I got to stay overnight in Houston, as they canceled the last flight out. These are just the times I remember. Last time I was rerouted was a few years ago, when my connection was supposed to be through Memphis and due to storms we wound up in Atlanta. Missed the last flight out of there to Seattle, and got to overnight in ATL too.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 19, 2017 20:05:04 GMT -5
This is my problem and the reason I like direct flights and I can't stand O'Hare. You mean nonstops. "Direct" flights have a single flight number but they stop somewhere en route. You may have to get off the plane and into another, which may not be on time. You may need to change terminals and be groped by the TSA again. Ask me how I know this. About the worst thing I can say about living where I go is that our home airport (MCI) has nonstops mostly to hub cities and none to Europe. This is why I like flying out of either SEA or Vancouver. You can get direct flights to Europe. We flew SEA to Dubai. That was a butt numbing 14 hours, which made me question my sanity by the end of the flight. It was another 10 hours to Johannesburg after that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 0:19:02 GMT -5
Got him! Only about an hour and half late. Almost home!
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Post by toomuchreality on Jun 26, 2017 2:29:27 GMT -5
Got him! Only about an hour and half late. Almost home! YAY! I'm glad, oped.
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