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Post by suesinfl on Jun 3, 2017 18:20:39 GMT -5
Watching the news.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 3, 2017 18:40:18 GMT -5
Can't say what I think or I will probably be banned.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 3, 2017 18:54:25 GMT -5
Me too.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 3, 2017 19:08:53 GMT -5
We are engaged in a suck ass war that we seem to want to only be fought "over there" by a tiny percentage of us and "them" taking all the casualties. This war isn't going to be fought that way.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 3, 2017 19:40:38 GMT -5
We are engaged in a suck ass war that we seem to want to only be fought "over there" by a tiny percentage of us and "them" taking all the casualties. This war isn't going to be fought that way That is not a new concept. I temember Reagan stating that a next war with the USSR was a real possibility, but it would be fought in Europe -> the reason he wanted more missiles in Europe.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 6, 2017 14:23:12 GMT -5
AAAAND....another attack with a hammer at Notre Dame in Paris A knife attack in Ontario. Rehab Dughmosh is accused of an alleged attempted stabbing at a Canadian Tire at Cedarbrae mall in Scarborough on Saturday. A source told Global News the woman was allegedly wearing a niqab and a bandana adorned with what appeared to be a symbol for the so-called Islamic State. She was scheduled to appear at a Toronto court for a bail hearing Tuesday. globalnews.ca/video/3506557/bail-hearing-for-woman-in-alleged-stabbing-attempt-at-canadian-tire
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 6, 2017 14:37:04 GMT -5
The Notre Dame hammer-wielding attacker is purported to be an Algerian student who, it's reported, also had knives. He was taken to hospital after having been shot. The policeman he attacked is said not to have serious injuries. I couldn't find a report on the current condition of the attacker.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 6, 2017 14:42:26 GMT -5
I'm sick to death of these Mohammedans.
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Post by whoami on Jun 7, 2017 10:21:35 GMT -5
The Notre Dame hammer-wielding attacker is purported to be an Algerian student who, it's reported, also had knives. He was taken to hospital after having been shot. The policeman he attacked is said not to have serious injuries. I couldn't find a report on the current condition of the attacker. We just got back from 2 weeks in Paris and around France. The city has military and police EVERYWHERE in the city. I stood outside Notre Dame and there were many police there. We were questioned extensively at the airport about our travels and we are about as white bread Americans as they come. I'm not sure how much more they can visibly do.
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 7, 2017 11:49:41 GMT -5
The Notre Dame hammer-wielding attacker is purported to be an Algerian student who, it's reported, also had knives. He was taken to hospital after having been shot. The policeman he attacked is said not to have serious injuries. I couldn't find a report on the current condition of the attacker. We just got back from 2 weeks in Paris and around France. The city has military and police EVERYWHERE in the city. I stood outside Notre Dame and there were many police there. We were questioned extensively at the airport about our travels and we are about as white bread Americans as they come. I'm not sure how much more they can visibly do. I agree. They're doing all they can. They responded very quickly to both the recent attacks. There's just no way to predict these sorts of attacks as we've seen here.
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 7, 2017 11:52:57 GMT -5
I'll try to find the interview but NPR had a humbling comment from a professor who studies ISIS and the Middle East. She basically said the whole fight with the West thing is a sideshow. That ISIS is much more dedicated to killing other Muslims they don't agree with who are right next door. The guy knows what he's talking about, IMO. Daesh isn't near as interested in killing westerners as they are in enslaving their own people to their view of how people are supposed to live. The war between the Sunni and the Shi'a has been going on for centuries. This is just another manifestation of it that, because of technology, we've been subjected to. Before, the west could remain somewhat blissfully unaware.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 7, 2017 14:00:23 GMT -5
I'll try to find the interview but NPR had a humbling comment from a professor who studies ISIS and the Middle East. She basically said the whole fight with the West thing is a sideshow. That ISIS is much more dedicated to killing other Muslims they don't agree with who are right next door. The guy knows what he's talking about, IMO. Daesh isn't near as interested in killing westerners as they are in enslaving their own people to their view of how people are supposed to live. The war between the Sunni and the Shi'a has been going on for centuries. This is just another manifestation of it that, because of technology, we've been subjected to. Before, the west could remain somewhat blissfully unaware. "Sideshow" or diversion so the West is less interested in what they are up to closer to home?
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 7, 2017 14:24:39 GMT -5
The guy knows what he's talking about, IMO. Daesh isn't near as interested in killing westerners as they are in enslaving their own people to their view of how people are supposed to live. The war between the Sunni and the Shi'a has been going on for centuries. This is just another manifestation of it that, because of technology, we've been subjected to. Before, the west could remain somewhat blissfully unaware. "Sideshow" or diversion so the West is less interested in what they are up to closer to home? Probably, a bit of both billis. They want the publicity, to be sure.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 7, 2017 14:41:22 GMT -5
The Notre Dame hammer-wielding attacker is purported to be an Algerian student who, it's reported, also had knives. He was taken to hospital after having been shot. The policeman he attacked is said not to have serious injuries. I couldn't find a report on the current condition of the attacker. We just got back from 2 weeks in Paris and around France. The city has military and police EVERYWHERE in the city. I stood outside Notre Dame and there were many police there. We were questioned extensively at the airport about our travels and we are about as white bread Americans as they come. I'm not sure how much more they can visibly do. It was like this when we were there in Dec. 2015.....a few weeks after the attack in the Paris nightclub. I saw more security at Notre Dame than I have seen in some airports.
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Post by debthaven on Jun 7, 2017 15:06:41 GMT -5
It was like this when we were there in Dec. 2015.....a few weeks after the attack in the Paris nightclub. I saw more security at Notre Dame than I have seen in some airports.
The threat level hasn't been changed since the attacks in late 2015, so there's still the same police presence.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 7, 2017 16:59:50 GMT -5
We just got back from 2 weeks in Paris and around France. The city has military and police EVERYWHERE in the city. I stood outside Notre Dame and there were many police there. We were questioned extensively at the airport about our travels and we are about as white bread Americans as they come. I'm not sure how much more they can visibly do. It was like this when we were there in Dec. 2015.....a few weeks after the attack in the Paris nightclub. I saw more security at Notre Dame than I have seen in some airports. Myself and two friends arrived on a flight from Boston to Paris on the morning of December 27, 1985. Our plane was surrounded by French troops. Earlier that morning at the Rome and Vienna airports, terrorists connected to the Abu Nidal Palestinian splinter sect, Fatah, had bombed/shot up the check-in lobbies of those two cities' airports. The troops were out in full force the entire week we were in Paris and probably long after. I also arrived in Paris two days after the 1976 Munich Olympics massacre. Troop were everywhere and just about everyone one the streets, including myself, were asked if we had noticed any suspicious activity.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 7, 2017 18:40:53 GMT -5
It was like this when we were there in Dec. 2015.....a few weeks after the attack in the Paris nightclub. I saw more security at Notre Dame than I have seen in some airports. Myself and two friends arrived on a flight from Boston to Paris on the morning of December 27, 1985. Our plane was surrounded by French troops. Earlier that morning at the Rome and Vienna airports, terrorists connected to the Abu Nidal Palestinian splinter sect, Fatah, had bombed/shot up the check-in lobbies of those two cities' airports. The troops were out in full force the entire week we were in Paris and probably long after. I also arrived in Paris two days after the 1976 Munich Olympics massacre. Troop were everywhere and just about everyone one the streets, including myself, were asked if we had noticed any suspicious activity. Early 90s Bangkok → military coup and curfew betweem 7pm and 7am with armed military in trucks patrolling the streets. I had a penthouse view of one of the busiest streets in Bangkok. No terrorism but it was eery to say the least...
And then there was the time that the IRA shot and killed two Australian tourists in the small southern Dutch town I am from. They mistook them for British soldiers on leave from a nearby NATO base. That also was an "interesting" time.
And a little more recent any of the airports I was on in the first year after 9/11...
ETA I forgot one: last year in Bohol (the Philippines) → weapon checks by troops armed with machine uns to get into a friggin' shopping mall. Not a really big one or luxurious by any means but there they were and they had bomb sniffing dogs with them. Nothing happened either shortly before, while, or after I was there so I totally forgot
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