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Post by OldCoyote on May 21, 2017 9:31:34 GMT -5
A couple of things here that bother me, you all knew I was "bothered", some of you have been a little kinder about mental state.
More serious now, LaVoy was shot three times in the back, Even though there were officer in front of him that did not shoot.
Pretty hard to say "You feared for your life" cause he was reaching for a gun when you can't see him reaching, meaning shot in the back!
If he was reaching for that gun, Why didn't the officer in front of him shoot?
So far the government has lost two cases, had four mistrials,( I don't know how accurate that is) They need to win some how,
Maybe this is one way, The Government has brought is expert psychoanalyst to select the jury,
Ahhh Yes, Using the super experts, to find the juror that from their unconscious mind is most likely to support the Government
Works every time when winning at any cost, You have the entire Government, funding you goal!!!!!!
This is the third trial for Ammons,
If he wins this time, will they continue to arrest , charge him to the point that he is arrested for failing to clean his room as a kid?
Last point this morning, If the ranchers in these areas want to sell, they can only sell to the Government,
At the price the Government wants to pay.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 21, 2017 10:05:50 GMT -5
Also note among some of the group in the Frontline Series The Battle Of Bunkerville. Some of the participants were Oath Keepers, Apparently listed as a anti Government group, By The Southern Poverty Law Center! So I took time to look at some of the Hate or Anti Government groups listed I see that Oath Keepers are not alone! How about the Tea Party? OR?? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups#Other I wonder who was left off the list? The only reason I did not post the list is that it is so long the Mods would have made threats.  |
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Post by tallguy on May 21, 2017 10:33:56 GMT -5
Also note among some of the group in the Frontline Series The Battle Of Bunkerville. Some of the participants were Oath Keepers, Apparently listed as a anti Government group, By The Southern Poverty Law Center! So I took time to look at some of the Hate or Anti Government groups listed I see that Oath Keepers are not alone! How about the Tea Party? OR??en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups#Other I wonder who was left off the list? The only reason I did not post the list is that it is so long the Mods would have made threats. You realize Tea Party Nation is ONE group, right? It is NOT the entire Tea Party in general. |
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 21, 2017 11:07:11 GMT -5
I think they left off one "hate" group in the list but I'll leave it to others to guess which group  |
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Post by OldCoyote on May 21, 2017 13:59:59 GMT -5
I think they left off one "hate" group in the list but I'll leave it to others to guess which group Yea, a real big one!! |
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Post by OldCoyote on May 21, 2017 14:02:31 GMT -5
Do any of you watch Any of the PBS Frontline series?
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Post by mmhmm on May 21, 2017 15:24:32 GMT -5
I don't watch TV, OC. I have watched some of FrontLine's offerings on Twitter, however.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 22, 2017 20:49:49 GMT -5
Not taking considering the comments after the video, what was your opinion of what Ammons said? |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 22, 2017 20:58:48 GMT -5
Not taking considering the comments after the video, what was your opinion of what Ammons said? I went looking for the producer of the video before I would watch it to see if it might be biased. As you mentioned Frontline, I wanted to know if your linked video was a Frontline productiom. I came across the video I linked above because it was the same video you posted in the OP. When I read the comments I completely lost interest in watching the video. The comments reflect the supporters of the video so I skipped it. |
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Post by OldCoyote on May 22, 2017 22:07:54 GMT -5
Not taking considering the comments after the video, what was your opinion of what Ammons said? I went looking for the producer of the video before I would watch it to see if it might be biased. As you mentioned Frontline, I wanted to know if your linked video was a Frontline productiom. I came across the video I linked above because it was the same video you posted in the OP. When I read the comments I completely lost interest in watching the video. The comments reflect the supporters of the video so I skipped it. Do you watch Frontline? |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 22, 2017 22:12:34 GMT -5
I went looking for the producer of the video before I would watch it to see if it might be biased. As you mentioned Frontline, I wanted to know if your linked video was a Frontline productiom. I came across the video I linked above because it was the same video you posted in the OP. When I read the comments I completely lost interest in watching the video. The comments reflect the supporters of the video so I skipped it. Do you watch Frontline? No. Was the Bundy video you posted a Frontline production? |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 22, 2017 22:13:27 GMT -5
What are your thoughts about the comments posted on the linked video I provided, especially the first three?
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Post by OldCoyote on May 22, 2017 22:17:35 GMT -5
Yes it was a Front line production, The video you posted and the Frontline are not the same.
Frontline tomorrow is on Bannon, You need to watch it, every time I watch one, I learn a lot!
Don't forget, PBS is left leaning.
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Post by thyme4change on May 22, 2017 22:20:14 GMT -5
I watched that Frontline. I watch all the Frontlines. It is one of my favorite shows.
You and I do not share opinions on this one (or probably most things.) I think the anti-government groups will be the ones that will take the USA down. I fear them more than all the Syrian refugees in the world.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 22, 2017 22:36:32 GMT -5
Yes it was a Front line production, The video you posted and the Frontline are not the same. Frontline tomorrow is on Bannon, You need to watch it, every time I watch one, I learn a lot! Don't forget, PBS is left leaning. My error. It was b2r who posted the video in which I found the same video but with not so nice comments. I still stand by my comments I have no interest in watching that video simply because it is probably biased based upon the YouTube comments posted. And I have no interest in Bundy and misguided cause. I know enough about him to call it misguided without having to watch him on Frontline. Just because something is left leaning doesn't necessarily mean I am going to find it interesting. Their are a number of left leaning things on TV like MSNBC. But I have no interested in watching MSNBC. Before retirement, I used to like to watch the O'Reilly Factor. Didn't mean I agreed with part or any of it. But I watched it. Once I retired I stopped watching all evening news shows, left, neutral, and right biased. |
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Post by OldCoyote on May 22, 2017 22:46:54 GMT -5
Thanks for your comment, the Frontline on Obama was outstanding,
It showed the problem on both sides of the aisle, the outcome of the decisions that were made.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2017 8:45:14 GMT -5
I acknowledge that Frontline comes from the left, but they do a really good job of telling both sides. I think they are way more clever and subversive about being liberal than most. I often wonder if I am being fooled, but I want to be on the left and still be informed, so it is perfect for me.
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Post by billisonboard on May 23, 2017 12:10:49 GMT -5
... Don't forget, PBS is left leaning. .., It showed the problem on both sides of the aisle, the outcome of the decisions that were made. I acknowledge that Frontline comes from the left, but they do a really good job of telling both sides. ... Yes, obviously left leaning if they don't just tell one side of the story. You certainly wouldn't see that from a right leaning organization.  |
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 23, 2017 20:15:42 GMT -5
Gannon's War is coming up next here. I'm watching American Epic Blood and Soil now. I rarely watch Frontline but do occasionally. Guess I should add that I am in the feel good stage of life so don't watch a lot of "heavy" stuff just the feel good stuff.  |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 24, 2017 12:36:52 GMT -5
It's kind of amusing to me when a hate group like SPLC labels another group a "hate group". If there's violence- prosecute people. But if you just want to label ideas you don't like "hate" because you can't prevail in the arena of ideas- well, that's just weak. Hash it out. |
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Post by billisonboard on May 24, 2017 14:42:56 GMT -5
... It's kind of amusing to me when a hate group like SPLC ... But if you just want to label ideas you don't like "hate" because you can't prevail in the arena of ideas- well, that's just weak. ... So you label SPLC a hate group because you don't like their idea of who should be labeled hate groups and can't prevail on them to conform to your idea of what they should be doing? Isn't that just weak? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 24, 2017 15:12:10 GMT -5
... It's kind of amusing to me when a hate group like SPLC ... But if you just want to label ideas you don't like "hate" because you can't prevail in the arena of ideas- well, that's just weak. ... So you label SPLC a hate group because you don't like their idea of who should be labeled hate groups and can't prevail on them to conform to your idea of what they should be doing? Isn't that just weak? They're a hate group based on their own standards. It's one of the rules for radicals: make the enemy live up to their own standards. |
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Post by thyme4change on May 24, 2017 18:05:24 GMT -5
I watched Bannon's war last night. It wasn't as informative as I had hoped, but I did not think it was very good for Trump.
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