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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 9, 2017 19:26:25 GMT -5
He was born in Kenya. Was not a citizen of the U.S.obama could have been born on the moon ......... His mother was a natural born US citizen, therefore he is also You did see my sarcasm emoji, didn't you? I knew Obama was a natural born citizen. Many people thought otherwise. And as a courtesy to myself and other posters, when you quote something I or some other poster posted, please use the quote function. That was I or anyone else's material you quote and reply on might want to reply to whatever you posted. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2017 19:31:31 GMT -5
Besides being black, what was Obama's baggage? (Well, and besides having zero foreign policy experience.?) > Too young (not constitutionally, speaking, just his not "old and seasoned enough to make presidential decisions" air and appearance). > Not enough actual political experience in any political profession. > Bad ties with subversive groups in is younger years. > No military experience (some people do like at lest SOME military background in someone that will be "Commander-in-Chief" of all the military). > He's Christian (yes, for some that's baggage). > He's not the right kind of Christian (his church via Reverend Wright... was spectacularly anti-white and anti-American in it's leanings). > He wasn't a woman (yes, there are femi-nazis that are anti-everything that isn't female [most of them voted for Hillary in the primaries against him]). Shall I go on? I could probably type all day...
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Post by Opti on Apr 9, 2017 19:35:10 GMT -5
Besides being black, what was Obama's baggage? (Well, and besides having zero foreign policy experience.?) > Too young (not constitutionally, speaking, just his not "old and seasoned enough to make presidential decisions" air and appearance). > Not enough actual political experience in any political profession. > Bad ties with subversive groups in is younger years. > No military experience (some people do like at lest SOME military background in someone that will be "Commander-in-Chief" of all the military). > He's Christian (yes, for some that's baggage). > He's not the right kind of Christian (his church via Reverend Wright... was spectacularly anti-white and anti-American in it's leanings). > He wasn't a woman (yes, there are femi-nazis that are anti-everything that isn't female [most of them voted for Hillary in the primaries against him]).Shall I go on? I could probably type all day... You are really reaching with this last one. No woman has been elected as President or VP yet. Therefore if that demographic exists, it does not make or break elections ... therefore a non-issue.
Stopping would be good. IMO.
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Post by Opti on Apr 9, 2017 19:38:57 GMT -5
I saw something recently where people are trying to promote Chelsea. An even worse idea. Can you imagine the tainted blood on both sides of that family in her? I'm shocked anyone married her no matter how much money she has. Now she's produced a child. Probably a Damian in the making. Tainted blood? She seems pretty harmless to me and appeared to survive her years in WH fishbowl.
The only thing I do agree with, is she is not a good choice for running for office.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 9, 2017 20:55:42 GMT -5
He is also reaching with the Christian thing. I will believe "wrong kind of Christian" but every president has at least pretended to be Christian. Biggest scandal is that catholic one. But someone took care of that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 4:28:40 GMT -5
> Too young (not constitutionally, speaking, just his not "old and seasoned enough to make presidential decisions" air and appearance). > Not enough actual political experience in any political profession. > Bad ties with subversive groups in is younger years. > No military experience (some people do like at lest SOME military background in someone that will be "Commander-in-Chief" of all the military). > He's Christian (yes, for some that's baggage). > He's not the right kind of Christian (his church via Reverend Wright... was spectacularly anti-white and anti-American in it's leanings). > He wasn't a woman (yes, there are femi-nazis that are anti-everything that isn't female [most of them voted for Hillary in the primaries against him]).Shall I go on? I could probably type all day... You are really reaching with this last one. No woman has been elected as President or VP yet. Therefore if that demographic exists, it does not make or break elections ... therefore a non-issue.
Stopping would be good. IMO.
I wasn't reaching at all. And "duuuhhhhh" on the " No woman has been elected as President or VP yet". I'm fully aware of that. All that proves is the femi-nazi's thankfully don't have the numbers to vote in an unqualified woman on their own. I never said that particular "baggage" was overwhelming. The query was " what was Obama's baggage?"... well... that was some of his baggage. It wasn't big baggage... but baggage of any size still counts as baggage. Matter of fact none of his baggage actually mattered enough to enough people... because if you remember he did win. Just because someone wins doesn't mean they don't have any baggage... does it? (think this over carefully before you answer... because it would apply to Trump as well)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 5:03:18 GMT -5
He is also reaching with the Christian thing. I will believe "wrong kind of Christian" but every president has at least pretended to be Christian. Biggest scandal is that catholic one. But someone took care of that. Nope. Not reaching with the Christian thing either. Same situation as with the femi-nazis. Wasn't BIG baggage... but even small baggage counts.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Apr 10, 2017 13:52:54 GMT -5
You think that's the worst of it. She's going to run again in 2020. I'd stake a snow leopard pelt on it. I would take that bet. She will not run again. The bet is on. If I win, you owe me one snow leopard pelt (cub preferred). If I win, I'll send you one.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 10, 2017 17:21:17 GMT -5
We seem to have different definitions of baggage. I consider baggage to be universal negatives. What you have I consider preferences.
Potato/potato. I'm following your logic now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 19:13:04 GMT -5
We seem to have different definitions of baggage. I consider baggage to be universal negatives. What you have I consider preferences. Potato/potato. I'm following your logic now. "Preferences"? LOL. I would have agreed to potato/potato, if you'd differentiated them between "universal" versus "individual" or "limited group"... but they are always "negatives" if they are considered baggage. However... if you want to go with "preferences", then they are "universal preferences" or "individual/limited-group preferences". And, to be quite honest, I don't think there's any such thing as a "universal" negative or preference when it comes to party politics. "Universal" means it applies equally to everyone, without exception.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 10, 2017 19:33:21 GMT -5
I hope corruption is a universal negative. There are people who may chose not to believe a candidate is corrupt, but they would probably still agree that corruption is bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:00:56 GMT -5
I hope corruption is a universal negative. There are people who may chose not to believe a candidate is corrupt, but they would probably still agree that corruption is bad. I would agree that corruption is a universal negative. Problem is, universally, all politicians are corrupt... so it then becomes a choice between how corrupt and over what?
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