OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 14, 2017 20:10:49 GMT -5
Every day a little more comes out that this person was tracked, another was tracked, another was tracked!! When it comes out that Trump was""" inadvertently """tracked ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/whistle.gif) your argument will be?? Inadvertently? You are going to pretend that if Trump spoke to Russians under investigation it was by accident?
Have you thought of applying for Spicer's job? He might need a new apologist.
Why do you think this has any thing to do with the Russians? We are going to find an un-named source that validates it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:23:46 GMT -5
Nope. No invasion necessary. Singular covert OP. (those do happen you know... completely and utterly without the need for a full-scale invasion) You can keep trying to conflate this if you like though... your flights of fancy are quite humorous. I always find it interesting to read people's sense of US governmental capability coupled with their sense of US governmental incompetence. That's kind of the point here though... isn't it? Their capability was hindered by the incompetence of the governmental leadership.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2017 20:35:13 GMT -5
I always find it interesting to read people's sense of US governmental capability coupled with their sense of US governmental incompetence. That's kind of the point here though... isn't it? Their capability was hindered by the incompetence of the governmental leadership. So government workers are competent unless they are at a certain level?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 20:36:39 GMT -5
In fairness to Richard, the US government is vastly better at killing people than it is at balancing a budget or running a VA. It has its strengths and its weaknesses. Agreed. But in true fairness to Richard, we should look at what he actually said: ... Conduct a full investigation wherever necessary and with whatever assets necessary, to get to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth (isn't intelligence gathering outside, of the country... the whole point of the existence of the CIA?) Then extradite (or apprehend and remove, by military force if necessary) the known and provable people involved, and prosecute on US soil... or US military ship ( if the trial goes the route of a tribunal). ... Apparently failing to gather intelligence on upcoming attacks. What I actually said in your first quote isn't contradicted by the second quote though. I was answering what they SHOULD HAVE DONE. They SHOULD HAVE investigated (gathering intelligence).... I didn't say that that that's what was actually allowed to happen. Our intelligence service is second to none on the planet (as much money as we throw at them they'd better be!)... but they have to be let loose to do their job. They have to be informed of what their focus needs to be. "The world" is too big of a place to be the focus.
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 20, 2017 7:26:05 GMT -5
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