Mr Smith (Trump) goes to Washington.

[toshmanta]

Only two places i would even consider moving to in the US:


Washington DC,although not a State it has never ever ever voted Republican,sounds like my kind of people.


Next door to Shooby just to annoy her.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 10, 2017 8:54:42 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 10, 2017 8:12:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

The gulf coast has sunsets which are much better than sunrises imo.
Unfortunately the gulf water is usually very warm compared to the Atlantic side, plus you get regular waves on the Atlantic. Must make northeasterners feel more at home.
Unfortunately even on the gulf side, it is built out to the east side of I 75 and builders advertise "on the gulf" when you are over an hour away with traffic, and not much public parking to find...... The builders advertise "Naples location" when in fact you are miles from anything in Naples that is the Naples you want to be in
I will say on a sunny day sitting in a lounge chair melts your problems away. No need for a massage.....

I can do that in the top part of Monmouth County here, although I admit the price of entry can be steep.

www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+beach+pics&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPzvb7iszSAhVK5oMKHdkZDooQsAQIGw&biw=1152&bih=574

If one wants to still keep their home but still own down here..be a snowbird..one can do so very resonsable...or wants to make a complete move down ..sell home...even pay capital gains but have nice nest egg for retirement living...

Look at older Condos...say 30 /40 years...senior communities over 55 only...no kids except for visiting....I live in one..kept up as nice today as it was 40 years ago when my Mom purchased...been coming here for years so I know. A 1 1/2 can go today mid 30's to say 40 and a 2/2...upper 40's...mid 50's....,many have been redone so basically modernized or do it your self....

After my stroke, while in rehab I did that...new tiled stall shower, commodes...new flooring...wood flooring style...kitchen cabinets , flooring, lighting all redone..widened doors for wheel chair if needed...painted, baseboards...the whole magilla...

.If live year round u get a homestead so taxes are 0..if snow bird taxes are reasonable about $1300.00...Condo fees reasonable....say $2800.00 a year....area well built up...so much shopping..top restaurants...golf courses..

Reason so reasonable...it's a 55 and up community..no kids so families not able to purchase...when the time comes and kids take over...say there are two....to hold off to get top price...to split between two or more siblings...not worth it...so priced to move...Sometimes folks hold on for them selves..I did...used a few years as a vacation get away two three times a year..fly in from Texas...then time to wind down made the move...So not necessary to spend a lot for a home here if one wants to consider other options...we have all types here..have wealthy..some from S America...[not sure what will happen now actually]  average...confortable...lots of snow birds from Canada..again not sure what will happen now...

[Value Buy]

Nothing will happen to out of country residents, unless you are from the countries on the terror watch list.
My community has many Canadians. They own seven homes on my block out of twenty homes.
The next group of non-citizens seem to be from Germany.
They too, seem to have time restrictions on how long they can be here. I always thought we (Americans) could move anywhere without losing your rights in your home country. Evidently not true for some countries. Americans have trouble with medical as might not be able to use Medicare insurance in foreign lands, but I do not think you have to travel back to America to maintain your rights and privileges. 
Am I incorrect on this?

[Value Buy]

Should have posted that on the Canadian thread, but I am responding to Dezi's post here.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 10, 2017 10:43:37 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nothing will happen to out of country residents, unless you are from the countries on the terror watch list.
My community has many Canadians. They own seven homes on my block out of twenty homes.
The next group of non-citizens seem to be from Germany.
They too, seem to have time restrictions on how long they can be here. I always thought we (Americans) could move anywhere without losing your rights in your home country. Evidently not true for some countries. Americans have trouble with medical as might not be able to use Medicare insurance in foreign lands, but I do not think you have to travel back to America to maintain your rights and privileges. 
Am I incorrect on this?

Canadians I know can't stay more then 6 months less a day..[not sure about less a day] or they lose their medical so there is a mass move in and out every year...great deal for them, especially those from French provinces in the East where winters can be hell...or was before the, according to Donald and friends the non global warming took over...

Don't know about other nationalities....German or others....

[Deleted]

Mar 9, 2017 22:51:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 9, 2017 9:20:09 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I immigrated to Florida once. It was a lot of fun, but it was a mistake.

Thousands of people from the north east coast are moving down here monthly.
Some of them are very happy selling their homes for a million dollars and buying twice the house here for half the price.

I have two brothers already there.  I'm already far south enough.  I won't be joining them.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 10, 2017 14:30:48 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Mar 9, 2017 22:51:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Thousands of people from the north east coast are moving down here monthly.
Some of them are very happy selling their homes for a million dollars and buying twice the house here for half the price.

I have two brothers already there.  I'm already far south enough.  I won't be joining them.

I looked up Ozarks ...looked neat...even sent a e mail to son who will be looking to move in six or seven years when he retires as a place to think about...Said he thinks would like to visit but a bit to far out there to live but was also impressed...Sorry I never got the chance to experience when I could...

[Opti]

Mar 10, 2017 9:00:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 10, 2017 8:51:53 GMT -5 Opti said:

You know this has been going on for decades if not longer, correct? Plus I think VB is in Indiana which is also wicked cheap compared to the mid-atlantic and new England states on the east coast.

Many of the very cool jobs are here on the East Coast, but there are things in Indiana like tirerack.com, Purdue, and the Indianapolis Speedway...

Do not forget we have the Indiana Dunes and great sunsets over the lake, and if no pollution coming from Chicago, sunset over the skyline miles in the distance! 
Did you know wild orchids grow in the dunes?
Orchids. In Indiana.

I have been to both the Indiana Dunes and the Michigan Dunes. Did not know about the orchids, but not surprised. I have a fair amount of Indiana history since I went to school at Purdue for both my degrees.

[Opti]

Mar 10, 2017 9:18:47 GMT -5 @aj said:

Mar 10, 2017 8:51:53 GMT -5 Opti said:

You know this has been going on for decades if not longer, correct? Plus I think VB is in Indiana which is also wicked cheap compared to the mid-atlantic and new England states on the east coast.

Many of the very cool jobs are here on the East Coast, but there are things in Indiana like tirerack.com, Purdue, and the Indianapolis Speedway...

Indiana has really made gains in manufacturing, I remember at the turn of the century nobody was looking to source anything there and now they come up all the time:

www.chicagotribune.com/ct-sta-reeder-st-0409-20150408-story.html


"Since March 2012, Indiana has added 39,000 manufacturing jobs, while Illinois has lost 2,500, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics."

Indiana also lost lots of manufacturing years ago. 1990s?

Had friends who moved because Delco shut down or greatly reduced staff. Illinois was never big on manufacturing to my knowledge...

But thank you, how quaint. I lost my job at the turn of the century because of Y2K... hmmm. Considers rewriting personal history using the phrase 'turn of the century'.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 10, 2017 9:00:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 10, 2017 8:51:53 GMT -5 Opti said:

You know this has been going on for decades if not longer, correct? Plus I think VB is in Indiana which is also wicked cheap compared to the mid-atlantic and new England states on the east coast.

Many of the very cool jobs are here on the East Coast, but there are things in Indiana like tirerack.com, Purdue, and the Indianapolis Speedway...

Do not forget we have the Indiana Dunes and great sunsets over the lake, and if no pollution coming from Chicago, sunset over the skyline miles in the distance! 
Did you know wild orchids grow in the dunes?
Orchids. In Indiana.

I don't know if the lady slipper orchids (picture below) are the same that grow in Indiana, but when I was a kid, there was a semi-swampy area behind my grand parents home in western Massachusetts. We used to see lady slipper orchids blooming there.

[Opti]

I like spring bulbs much more than Orchids. Especially tulips and hyacinths.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 10, 2017 19:26:34 GMT -5 Opti said:

I like spring bulbs much more than Orchids. Especially tulips and hyacinths.

The difference between tulips and hyacinths is that the orchids, or at least the lady slipper orchids, grow and are found in the wild (though plants are cultivated for sale but very expensive to buy). They are native to the U.S.. I remember being told as a kid we could not pick them in the wild as they were a protected species. Don't know if that was true way back then, but they were somewhat rare sightings.

[Deleted]

Mar 10, 2017 19:26:34 GMT -5 Opti said:

I like spring bulbs much more than Orchids. Especially tulips and hyacinths.

I have a section of property that I cleared and leveled to the south of the house just outside one of the kitchen windows.  It's about 1/3 acre and my DW has filled it just about completely with various spring bulbs that are up right now and blooming.  There are thousands of flowers open right now.  She planted a couple hundred bulbs every year for the last 15 years.  I burn it off every January so everything can be seen before it overgrows for the summer.

[Opti]

Mar 11, 2017 11:43:02 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Mar 10, 2017 19:26:34 GMT -5 Opti said:

I like spring bulbs much more than Orchids. Especially tulips and hyacinths.

I have a section of property that I cleared and leveled to the south of the house just outside one of the kitchen windows.  It's about 1/3 acre and my DW has filled it just about completely with various spring bulbs that are up right now and blooming.  There are thousands of flowers open right now.  She planted a couple hundred bulbs every year for the last 15 years.  I burn it off every January so everything can be seen before it overgrows for the summer.

Nice. I'm more than a bit envious and hope I can do something like that on a smaller scale some day.

 

At my first house I used to plant a spring bulb garden every year because the soil was heavy clay. I used to put in somewhere around 7 to 8 dozen tulip and hyacinth bulbs in the front entrance garden.

[Value Buy]

I have sidetracked my own thread very seriously, but at least in a pleasant way!

[tallguy]

Mar 11, 2017 19:45:07 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I have sidetracked my own thread very seriously, but at least in a pleasant way!

You were probably dreaming about the moonlight on the Wabash, weren't ya?  

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 11, 2017 19:12:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 11, 2017 11:43:02 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I have a section of property that I cleared and leveled to the south of the house just outside one of the kitchen windows.  It's about 1/3 acre and my DW has filled it just about completely with various spring bulbs that are up right now and blooming.  There are thousands of flowers open right now.  She planted a couple hundred bulbs every year for the last 15 years.  I burn it off every January so everything can be seen before it overgrows for the summer.

Nice. I'm more than a bit envious and hope I can do something like that on a smaller scale some day.

 

At my first house I used to plant a spring bulb garden every year because the soil was heavy clay. I used to put in somewhere around 7 to 8 dozen tulip and hyacinth bulbs in the front entrance garden.

Any chance taking a photo and posting it for all to see...love to see...must be spectaculer...

[Deleted]

Mar 11, 2017 19:12:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 11, 2017 11:43:02 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I have a section of property that I cleared and leveled to the south of the house just outside one of the kitchen windows.  It's about 1/3 acre and my DW has filled it just about completely with various spring bulbs that are up right now and blooming.  There are thousands of flowers open right now.  She planted a couple hundred bulbs every year for the last 15 years.  I burn it off every January so everything can be seen before it overgrows for the summer.

Nice. I'm more than a bit envious and hope I can do something like that on a smaller scale some day.

 

At my first house I used to plant a spring bulb garden every year because the soil was heavy clay. I used to put in somewhere around 7 to 8 dozen tulip and hyacinth bulbs in the front entrance garden.

She's been like bulb planting machine with her small hand sized pick ax and net bag full of bulbs over her shoulder. The main reason I have to burn it off is because the weeds and grass over grow it so thick during the summer you would not see the shorter plants like the crocus and Hyacinth.

[djAdvocate]

Mar 8, 2017 23:21:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I keep thinking of the classic movie Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
Starred Jimmy Stewart as an honest young man who had no clue of the dirty politics that went on.
He thought he did, but he didn't.

He too, went to D.C. to make a difference.
As has Trump.

He soon was being set up by the powers that be for failure.
Trump soon was being set up for failure by the powers that be

Only difference is Stewart was a likeable person.
Trump not so much, but both believed in draining the swamp.....

Does our hero succeed or does the evil Democratic political machine prevail?
Stay tuned to see how this epic adventure turns out!

i threw up a little in my mouth at this comparison.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 13, 2017 10:18:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 8, 2017 23:21:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I keep thinking of the classic movie Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
Starred Jimmy Stewart as an honest young man who had no clue of the dirty politics that went on.
He thought he did, but he didn't.

He too, went to D.C. to make a difference.
As has Trump.

He soon was being set up by the powers that be for failure.
Trump soon was being set up for failure by the powers that be

Only difference is Stewart was a likeable person.
Trump not so much, but both believed in draining the swamp.....

Does our hero succeed or does the evil Democratic political machine prevail?
Stay tuned to see how this epic adventure turns out!

i threw up a little in my mouth at this comparison.

Can't believe Jimmy would lie like our Donald...in fact when seen on the late Johnny C.  late show..he came across as such a low key gentleman...remembering him reciting limricks and poems in that stutter like low key way he had a way of speaking...

The Donald is not liked by so many because he is not a leader..he is a lier..a coward..blames others for his own screwups...strikes out at all and everyone if he doesn't like what they say about him...is constantly patting himself on the back for accomplishments that are not true and when called on the lies he speaks lashes out and disses the ones questioning him rather then admit..man will never admit a mistake or lie even when caught out..even his supporters know that..

To them it is the Donald being Donald...as far as draining the swamp...not sure what that means really...If he means that long time representatives should not be there that long...seems he has plenty around him and has added billionaires to his staff who have little thoughts for the average people...did not act  that way toward them in their previouse roles in business...

As far being set up for failure...seems it all is falling on the Donalds shoulders....think only new President, so shortly after taking office has a whole gender marching against him...now that is something to tell the grand kids about...hell of a accomplishment it is...

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 13, 2017 12:43:05 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Mar 13, 2017 10:18:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i threw up a little in my mouth at this comparison.

Can't believe Jimmy would lie like our Donald...in fact when seen on the late Johnny C.  late show..he came across as such a low key gentleman...remembering him reciting limricks and poems in that stutter like low key way he had a way of speaking...

The Donald is not liked by so many because he is not a leader..he is a lier..a coward..blames others for his own screwups...strikes out at all and everyone if he doesn't like what they say about him...is constantly patting himself on the back for accomplishments that are not true and when called on the lies he speaks lashes out and disses the ones questioning him rather then admit..man will never admit a mistake or lie even when caught out..even his supporters know that..

To them it is the Donald being Donald...as far as draining the swamp...not sure what that means really...If he means that long time representatives should not be there that long...seems he has plenty around him and has added billionaires to his staff who have little thoughts for the average people...did not act  that way toward them in their previouse roles in business...

As far being set up for failure...seems it all is falling on the Donalds shoulders....think only new President, so shortly after taking office has a whole gender marching against him...now that is something to tell the grand kids about...hell of a accomplishment it is...

Don't recall Jimmy Stewart "grabbing women by the pu$$ey", mocking disabled people, calling women "pigs".  Must have missed that part.

[Value Buy]

Mar 13, 2017 10:18:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 8, 2017 23:21:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I keep thinking of the classic movie Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
Starred Jimmy Stewart as an honest young man who had no clue of the dirty politics that went on.
He thought he did, but he didn't.

He too, went to D.C. to make a difference.
As has Trump.

He soon was being set up by the powers that be for failure.
Trump soon was being set up for failure by the powers that be

Only difference is Stewart was a likeable person.
Trump not so much, but both believed in draining the swamp.....

Does our hero succeed or does the evil Democratic political machine prevail?
Stay tuned to see how this epic adventure turns out!

i threw up a little in my mouth at this comparison.

Huh.
I thought it was pretty good myself!

[Opti]

Mar 13, 2017 10:14:52 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Mar 11, 2017 19:12:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nice. I'm more than a bit envious and hope I can do something like that on a smaller scale some day.

 

At my first house I used to plant a spring bulb garden every year because the soil was heavy clay. I used to put in somewhere around 7 to 8 dozen tulip and hyacinth bulbs in the front entrance garden.

She's been like bulb planting machine with her small hand sized pick ax and net bag full of bulbs over her shoulder. The main reason I have to burn it off is because the weeds and grass over grow it so thick during the summer you would not see the shorter plants like the crocus and Hyacinth.

Wow. I do stealth gardening now because I live in an apartment complex.  

[Opti]

Mar 12, 2017 0:17:47 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Mar 11, 2017 19:12:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nice. I'm more than a bit envious and hope I can do something like that on a smaller scale some day.

 

At my first house I used to plant a spring bulb garden every year because the soil was heavy clay. I used to put in somewhere around 7 to 8 dozen tulip and hyacinth bulbs in the front entrance garden.

Any chance taking a photo and posting it for all to see...love to see...must be spectaculer...

I'd love to see Diogene's landscape as well, but since you quoted me, perhaps I'll try scanning one of my photos on of these days. My fave front garden I planted is in a photo on my fridge.

[Opti]

I want to go to the Philly flower show which is either taking place right now or adjusting their dates. Here's a pic I found online which is probably from a past show. They create all these wonderful temporary landscapes which are a joy to walk through and experience. Or sit in if they have some benches.