NBC and MSNBC goes rogue and is turning conservative

[Value Buy]

NBC is dumping Al Roker and Tamron Hall in the third hour of the Today Show for Megyn Kelly from FOX


www.etonline.com/news/208709_today_show_dropping_al_roker_and_tamron_hall_today_take_hour_to_make_room_for_megyn_kelly/

Obviously NBC and MSNBC have seen the light.
Time to go conservative.
Hopefully Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are next

[zibazinski]

I don't want conservative or liberal news. Report the facts, for a change, after making sure they ARE facts and let people decide for themselves.

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2017 11:58:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

NBC is dumping Al Roker and Tamron Hall in the third hour of the Today Show for Megyn Kelly from FOX


www.etonline.com/news/208709_today_show_dropping_al_roker_and_tamron_hall_today_take_hour_to_make_room_for_megyn_kelly/

Obviously NBC and MSNBC have seen the light.
Time to go conservative.
Hopefully Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are next

I heard a while ago she was leaving Fox for NBC.  I guess it was true.

[chiver78]

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

[Cookies Galore]

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

But the Kathie Lee and Hoda hour is great! I admit to enjoying them on my Tuesday work from home day.

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 14:04:30 GMT -5 Cookies Galore said:

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

But the Kathie Lee and Hoda hour is great! I admit to enjoying them on my Tuesday work from home day.

that's the 4th hour. I actually like it better when it's Hoda and Jenna lol.... Jenna is a lightweight, it gets funnier as the hour goes on.

[Value Buy]

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

[Cookies Galore]

Feb 3, 2017 14:05:52 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:04:30 GMT -5 Cookies Galore said:

But the Kathie Lee and Hoda hour is great! I admit to enjoying them on my Tuesday work from home day.

that's the 4th hour. I actually like it better when it's Hoda and Jenna lol.... Jenna is a lightweight, it gets funnier as the hour goes on.

Yes, hence the "but the Kathie Lee and Hoda hour" reference. Jenna is enjoyable when she is on!

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Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

I think it's racist to expect to keep a job because of race.

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

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Feb 3, 2017 14:33:31 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

Al Roker used to be on the weather channel and did a great job.   I would guess that NBC just paid better.

[Value Buy]

Feb 3, 2017 14:33:31 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

That is not true.
She had her own show on MSNBC, and recently filled in for the national nightly news for a week. She has actually been very active on MSNBC lately.
There was an article I read yesterday saying how active she had been, and NBC managers had told her what a great job she had been doing and her hour the Today show was actually getting stronger in the ratings. I could not find the article today and went with the one I posted at the beginning of the thread.
I guess when you pay the big bucks to Megyn Kelly, someone has to go, but I did not exect the third hour of the Today show to be the spot for Kelly. Wonder if Willy Geist stays on.......
Obviously MSNBC and NBC have decided they have to go more middle of the road to survive, but I really doubt Kelly will be sitting down on a regular basis with President Trump, so not expecting big exclusives anytime soon.

[Opti]

Feb 3, 2017 14:36:53 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:33:31 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

Al Roker used to be on the weather channel and did a great job.   I would guess that NBC just paid better.

I remember Al Roker from my time here in NJ. I liked him best as a weather person for NBC.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Roker

Roker's career with NBC began in 1978 when he was hired at WKYC-TV in Cleveland, then an NBC owned-and-operated station. After five successful years in Cleveland, Roker was promoted to the network's flagship outlet, WNBC-TV in his hometown. Roker returned to New York City in late 1983 as a weekend weathercaster, and within eight months became the station's regular weeknight weathercaster. Roker replaced 27-year WNBC-TV veteran Dr. Frank Field, who left the network after a contract dispute. From 1983 to 1996, Roker was the regular substitute for forecaster Joe Witte on the NBC News program NBC News at Sunrise, and from 1990 to 1995 filled in for Willard Scott, Bryant Gumbel and Matt Lauer on the Today Show.

In 2002,[25] Roker underwent gastric bypass surgery to lose weight, which he said he did after failing at numerous diets. Eight months after that surgery, the New York Daily News reported he had dropped 100 pounds (45 kg) off his 320-pound figure.

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Feb 3, 2017 14:54:58 GMT -5 Opti said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:36:53 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Al Roker used to be on the weather channel and did a great job.   I would guess that NBC just paid better.

I remember Al Roker from my time here in NJ. I liked him best as a weather person for NBC.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Roker

Roker's career with NBC began in 1978 when he was hired at WKYC-TV in Cleveland, then an NBC owned-and-operated station. After five successful years in Cleveland, Roker was promoted to the network's flagship outlet, WNBC-TV in his hometown. Roker returned to New York City in late 1983 as a weekend weathercaster, and within eight months became the station's regular weeknight weathercaster. Roker replaced 27-year WNBC-TV veteran Dr. Frank Field, who left the network after a contract dispute. From 1983 to 1996, Roker was the regular substitute for forecaster Joe Witte on the NBC News program NBC News at Sunrise, and from 1990 to 1995 filled in for Willard Scott, Bryant Gumbel and Matt Lauer on the Today Show.

In 2002,[25] Roker underwent gastric bypass surgery to lose weight, which he said he did after failing at numerous diets. Eight months after that surgery, the New York Daily News reported he had dropped 100 pounds (45 kg) off his 320-pound figure.

I remember when he lost the weight.   Good for him as he's still comparably thin.

[Opti]

Feb 3, 2017 11:58:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

NBC is dumping Al Roker and Tamron Hall in the third hour of the Today Show for Megyn Kelly from FOX


www.etonline.com/news/208709_today_show_dropping_al_roker_and_tamron_hall_today_take_hour_to_make_room_for_megyn_kelly/

Obviously NBC and MSNBC have seen the light.
Time to go conservative.
Hopefully Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are next

So ... you see business as usual as turning conservative?   News stations are into making $$ by getting viewers. So they added one person with a conservative bent to 1 hour out of 24 in a broadcast day.

I had to read the article to find out about the time slot they are giving her. Used to be anchored by Billy Bush before the Trump/Bush tape release.

However, 62-year-old Roker and 46-year-old Hall are not leaving the Today show or NBC. A second source with knowledge of the situation echoes that despite rumors, Hall is "expected to stay at the network and with the Today show family."

"She will still fill in on the Today show at times when Savannah [Guthrie] is off," the source says. "She will also continue her daily show on MSNBC."

The network has made no official comments on the changes.

Interestingly enough, "Today's Take" was previously fronted by Billy Bush, before he was let go after his infamous Donald Trump controversy.
From your link-

www.etonline.com/news/208709_today_show_dropping_al_roker_and_tamron_hall_today_take_hour_to_make_room_for_megyn_kelly/

[Value Buy]

The article I read yesterday said basically the same thing, but her manager denied she was staying. He said they offered her money, but for some reason the manager, or Tamron, said no, and she is leaving at the end of her contract.

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 14:36:53 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:33:31 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

Al Roker used to be on the weather channel and did a great job.   I would guess that NBC just paid better.

well, the Weather Channel is part of NBC now (or at least affiliated with it) and last I heard, he was getting a morning show over there as well. so who knows. 

[Opti]

Feb 3, 2017 14:57:29 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:54:58 GMT -5 Opti said:

I remember Al Roker from my time here in NJ. I liked him best as a weather person for NBC.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Roker

Roker's career with NBC began in 1978 when he was hired at WKYC-TV in Cleveland, then an NBC owned-and-operated station. After five successful years in Cleveland, Roker was promoted to the network's flagship outlet, WNBC-TV in his hometown. Roker returned to New York City in late 1983 as a weekend weathercaster, and within eight months became the station's regular weeknight weathercaster. Roker replaced 27-year WNBC-TV veteran Dr. Frank Field, who left the network after a contract dispute. From 1983 to 1996, Roker was the regular substitute for forecaster Joe Witte on the NBC News program NBC News at Sunrise, and from 1990 to 1995 filled in for Willard Scott, Bryant Gumbel and Matt Lauer on the Today Show.

In 2002,[25] Roker underwent gastric bypass surgery to lose weight, which he said he did after failing at numerous diets. Eight months after that surgery, the New York Daily News reported he had dropped 100 pounds (45 kg) off his 320-pound figure.

I remember when he lost the weight.   Good for him as he's still comparably thin.

Yes he's done amazing well at keeping it off. Other people including celebs like Chyna haven't had such success. (I think that's her name. From the group Wilson Phillips.)

This is one of their songs I remember the most:

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 14:47:21 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:33:31 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Al Roker was likely spared because he serves other purposes in the weather area. Tamron didn't really do much else besides the news reader/fluff hour hostess stuff. I don't think it was a big loss, really. 

That is not true.
She had her own show on MSNBC, and recently filled in for the national nightly news for a week. She has actually been very active on MSNBC lately.
There was an article I read yesterday saying how active she had been, and NBC managers had told her what a great job she had been doing and her hour the Today show was actually getting stronger in the ratings. I could not find the article today and went with the one I posted at the beginning of the thread.
I guess when you pay the big bucks to Megyn Kelly, someone has to go, but I did not exect the third hour of the Today show to be the spot for Kelly. Wonder if Willy Geist stays on.......
Obviously MSNBC and NBC have decided they have to go more middle of the road to survive, but I really doubt Kelly will be sitting down on a regular basis with President Trump, so not expecting big exclusives anytime soon.

I personally hadn't seen her other work around the NBC family, just what she did for the Today Show (and occasional appearances as the anchor for the Nightly News). I clicked one of the links posted earlier, and it said that NBC had offered - and expected her to accept - to stay on for her other roles. she chose to decline. 

[thyme4change]

Feb 3, 2017 13:10:19 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I don't want conservative or liberal news. Report the facts, for a change, after making sure they ARE facts and let people decide for themselves.

My absolute favorite quote is "Truth isn't a thing of fact, or reason. It's simply what everyone agrees on."

There are not as many "facts" as we think. Most everything we hold as a truth is just something that we as a society have agreed to. There won't be many facts on the news, as most things they cover are debatable and can be seen different ways from different angles.

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 15:08:26 GMT -5 Opti said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:57:29 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I remember when he lost the weight.   Good for him as he's still comparably thin.

Yes he's done amazing well at keeping it off. Other people including celebs like Chyna haven't had such success. (I think that's her name. From the group Wilson Phillips.)

This is one of their songs I remember the most:

Carnie had the surgery. Chyna was the little blonde. 

those were my girls back in jr HS! 

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Feb 3, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:36:53 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Al Roker used to be on the weather channel and did a great job.   I would guess that NBC just paid better.

well, the Weather Channel is part of NBC now (or at least affiliated with it) and last I heard, he was getting a morning show over there as well. so who knows. 

I usually have the weather channel on between 6 till 11 am every day at times and haven't seen him.  He must be on at a different time.  It was him and Stephanie Abrams every morning when I used to see him.

[chiver78]

Feb 3, 2017 15:32:22 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Feb 3, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

well, the Weather Channel is part of NBC now (or at least affiliated with it) and last I heard, he was getting a morning show over there as well. so who knows. 

I usually have the weather channel on between 6 till 11 am every day at times and haven't seen him.  He must be on at a different time.  It was him and Stephanie Abrams every morning when I used to see him.

wow, I guess I had older news than I thought. I just remember seeing teasers for it, didn't realize it was that long ago! 
link

mornings for me had always been just the local news, then I'd hit the road. now, it's local news/Food Network for background noise until the pups and I get moving and either walk or dog park it. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I get my news from here. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 3, 2017 13:50:21 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

have you actually watched the third hour? it's all pop culture fluff bullshit

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

Would you deny him his negotiated salary? Your comment sounds a bit hostile.

[Opti]

Feb 3, 2017 15:29:39 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Feb 3, 2017 15:08:26 GMT -5 Opti said:

Yes he's done amazing well at keeping it off. Other people including celebs like Chyna haven't had such success. (I think that's her name. From the group Wilson Phillips.)

This is one of their songs I remember the most:

Carnie had the surgery. Chyna was the little blonde. 

those were my girls back in jr HS! 

TY. Memory searches a little iffy recently. Still getting my sleep back to normal levels, etc. Hey, I remembered one of the names and it started with a C as well.

[Value Buy]

Feb 3, 2017 17:46:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 3, 2017 14:15:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Really?
I guess the liberals disagree.
NBC is accused of white washing the show.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-accused-of-%E2%80%98whitewashing%E2%80%99-by-national-association-of-black-journalists-after-tamron-hall-exit-as-network-defends-its-diversity-record/ar-AAmzi9K?li=BBnbfcL

Racism backlash attack has started against NBC.
Al Roker was spared in the "slaughter". He keeps his over priced contract.
This is not the NPR network. They are expected to make a profit, in keeping with making America greater again.

Would you deny him his negotiated salary? Your comment sounds a bit hostile.

I never said Al was just being kept on due to  a high salary payout. I said he keeps his over priced contract.
Al is all over the network and sometimes on MSNBC. This is only one hour of programming he no longer will be on.
If I said just about anyone on national television is over priced, would you consider that hostile?
Everyone is over priced and especially Hannity at Fox and now Kelly at NBC. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 4, 2017 9:37:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 3, 2017 17:46:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Would you deny him his negotiated salary? Your comment sounds a bit hostile.

I never said Al was just being kept on due to  a high salary payout. I said he keeps his over priced contract.
Al is all over the network and sometimes on MSNBC. This is only one hour of programming he no longer will be on.
If I said just about anyone on national television is over priced, would you consider that hostile?
Everyone is over priced and especially Hannity at Fox and now Kelly at NBC. 

I will ask again: would you deny him his negotiated salary? Would you deny anyone their negotiated salary for that matter.

[Value Buy]

Feb 4, 2017 9:54:14 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 4, 2017 9:37:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I never said Al was just being kept on due to  a high salary payout. I said he keeps his over priced contract.
Al is all over the network and sometimes on MSNBC. This is only one hour of programming he no longer will be on.
If I said just about anyone on national television is over priced, would you consider that hostile?
Everyone is over priced and especially Hannity at Fox and now Kelly at NBC. 

I will ask again: would you deny him his negotiated salary? Would you deny anyone their negotiated salary for that matter.

Again, I said he did not lose any money because he is still employed........
Now in your answer to an absurd side bar, which has nothing to do with my post................Heck No.
A contract is a contract. If he was let go, he earned the payout.
Unless he broke some sort of contract provision, or there was a specific negotiated buyout payment listed in the contract.
This is assuming the contract does stipulate total payout if let go, without a provision for lesser payout. 

[Tennesseer]

Alrighty then.   You don't begrudge anyone's negotiated salary.