milee
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Post by milee on Jan 30, 2017 10:00:36 GMT -5
I had yet another immigration/citizenship discussion with my husband this morning. Although we've been married for 27 years he's never become an American citizen, only holds a green card. For years, I've encouraged him to get citizenship to protect himself against future changes in policy and he always acts like I'm being silly. This morning, I pointed out that some of the Iranians being denied entry into the US are green card holders that helped us in the recent war... and are still being detained. He rolled his eyes and said that it's unlikely any administration will ban people from the UK as Muslim terrorists. I don't think that's the point, though. If the ban were only about Muslim terrorists then Saudi Arabia and Egypt would be on the ban list. It's obvious (to me anyway) that the changes afoot aren't just based on fighting terrorism and it's really naïve to expect future changes won't be a problem. For example, what will happen if Trump realizes it might be easy to fix some of Social Security and Medicare's issues by denying SS and Medicare to green card holders? Or in naughtybear's case, what if future decisions are partly based on who needed social benefits like government subsidies for health insurance?
I think he's being an idiot to think the green card and British citizenship are an infallible shield. Oh, and I let him know that just like Gloria Steinem and Madeline Albright suggested, if the government starts a Muslim registry, I'm registering our family as Muslim so he might want to get started on citizenship before that happens.
But I mean... how much does he annoy you? A lot. But for me the bigger issue is that if he gets kicked out or stuck over there child custody can be a huge, hairy deal.
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MJ2.0
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jan 30, 2017 10:07:11 GMT -5
LOL! I didn't expect a real answer because of course you know I was kidding. Obviously you want him to stay. The custody arrangement discussions were bad enough between X and I and we live in the same state - I can't imagine how it would have been if we were not in the same country.
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Bob Ross
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Post by Bob Ross on Jan 30, 2017 10:34:53 GMT -5
If you do end up moving to England, be sure to develop a pseudo-British accent (a la Madonna) while you're there so you can impress / annoy your friends once you return. Also, be prepared to dramatically up your usage of the C-word. Brits use it like it's going out of style.
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emma1420
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Post by emma1420 on Jan 30, 2017 14:38:49 GMT -5
TD holds passports to both Canada and the US. He uses which ever passport he is entering that country. So when we go into Canada, he uses that passport. Into the US, he uses his US passport. He never had to renounce his Canadian citizenship. This is what I do with the UK and US. Although, I also use my UK passport when entering a commonwealth country (as the lines and the visa terms are typically better) unless they strict exit controls.
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NastyWoman
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 30, 2017 16:03:43 GMT -5
Checked again this morning: unless I marry a US citizen I will lose my citizenship of birth
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Post by busymom on Jan 30, 2017 16:05:48 GMT -5
I'm one of those people who is living in a state where the DL will NOT be considered valid for the TSA, unless our state legislature gets their collective butts in gear, & makes the necessary changes on our DL's. Which means, for security's sake, DS & I plan to get our passports (DD already has one), just in case we ever need one. DH isn't ready to make that leap yet, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 30, 2017 16:09:24 GMT -5
I'm one of those people who is living in a state where the DL will NOT be considered valid for the TSA, unless our state legislature gets their collective butts in gear, & makes the necessary changes on our DL's. Which means, for security's sake, DS & I plan to get our passports (DD already has one), just in case we ever need one. DH isn't ready to make that leap yet, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. We are too. I've been using my Nexus card for domestic flights recently.....mainly because my DL is a pain in the ass to get out of my wallet!
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chiver78
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 30, 2017 16:37:51 GMT -5
I'm one of those people who is living in a state where the DL will NOT be considered valid for the TSA, unless our state legislature gets their collective butts in gear, & makes the necessary changes on our DL's. Which means, for security's sake, DS & I plan to get our passports (DD already has one), just in case we ever need one. DH isn't ready to make that leap yet, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. We are too. I've been using my Nexus card for domestic flights recently.....mainly because my DL is a pain in the ass to get out of my wallet! I use my passport for a lot of things lately, for that same reason - it's way easier to locate in my purse than my license.
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debthaven
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Post by debthaven on Jan 30, 2017 18:24:10 GMT -5
It's late here and I'm super tired but ... from my experience.
The US used to not allow double nationality (in the case of taking another one). They changed their policy on that decades ago, right after my ex walked out lol (which would have made it easy for me to get French nationality at the time).
From what I have seen, it is easier to get dual nationality when neither nation has mandatory military service. My DS3 has US/UK/Fr nationality. We were told that that is possible only because none of those three countries has mandatory military service anymore.
FWIW ...
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naughtybear
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Post by naughtybear on Jan 30, 2017 20:04:49 GMT -5
I don't need to fake English accent I have a real one, sometimes I fake and American accent and I get laughed at.
Thanks Nancy for the great list.
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Post by Pants on Jan 30, 2017 21:58:11 GMT -5
In the interest of the current POTUS and covering your ass. May want to think about giving Power of Attorney to someone here before you leave. In the history of the world, it is certainly not unprecedented to refuse to let people back into the country and seize their assets.
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