Behaviour Health

[naughtybear]

Not sure where to put this. I am reaching out because of the amount of people on here vs my RL small group. Daughter is having a really tough time. I believe she needs some intensive intervention therapy. Depression is in my family, my mother and myself though it seems to have manifested itself in Cassie a lot younger, she is not functioning and not going to work. Right before Christmas she applied for FMLA, I know I posted about her I think Dec? It just seems to be this either go to ER or wait for therapy. Is there any inbetween that you guys know of. She can't wait until March for her therapy appt. Well she can but who knows what will happen.

[naughtybear]

I wish I could say that this is my moody child or this she's always been melancholy but I can't, I don't mean that too sound bad but I'm just trying to say that this is just not her. She's like a zombie.

[Anne_in_VA]

Do you or your DH have an EAP program through work?  They usually can set something up much more quickly than waiting 2 or 3 months for an appointment.  Have you tried calling other practices to see if they have an earlier appointment?  Sometimes if you explain the situation they can give you a quicker appointment.

[Anne_in_VA]

Do you think she's suicidal?  If she's that depressed she may be but may not have acted on it yet.

[naughtybear]

Yes, she's going through EAP, she's had her first appt, the next isn't until March. I am going to look tomorrow at other providers.

[Bonny]

Jan 24, 2017 18:23:52 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

I wish I could say that this is my moody child or this she's always been melancholy but I can't, I don't mean that too sound bad but I'm just trying to say that this is just not her. She's like a zombie.

Do you know what triggered it?

I had a really bad episode which lasted about a year. Barely worked, didn't open up my mail for months, zombie is probably a very good description. Tried going to one or two therapists but they didn't work. I insisted on going to a therapist who was a family friend who I knew had seen the family dynamics. She did want me to take meds but I refused. In hindsight it might have got me on track a little faster but in the end it worked out o.k. But it was a really scary time. I've never since been that depressed.

I'd go out of pocket if that's what it's going to take to get her started.

[naughtybear]

She just text me, we have talked about it, she doesn't want to really do it but she is going to go the the ER tomorrow. Unfortunaltely it seems the only way to get some intensive therapy quickly. The only other option is a private facilty and I am still looking into that. I'm not sure what started it Bonny, God, it breaks my hurt to see my vibrant girl like this. Actually she text me and asked me to take her tomorrow that she wanted to spend the night with Scar and take her to daycare. Maybe I shouldn't let her be by herself tonight.,

[busymom]

Not that I've got the professional training to diagnose, but these next couple of months can be REALLY rough on people who suffer from SAD. Depression in general is brutal. I wish you (and her) the very best. I think inviting her over to spend the night tonight is a very good idea.

[naughtybear]

OMG, I'm so scared for my daughter. I have Scar and she's coming over for Chinese and I don't think I can keep it together.

[Anne_in_VA]

Hang in there for her at least.  Hugs.    

[busymom]

You can do this! I know you're strong.

Try & hold it together until you get her to the ER tomorrow. Once she's out of sight & hearing then you can take Scar home & go have a good cry. (I don't blame you. This would be tough on any mom.)

[dee27]

I agree with Ann that you need to be strong for your daughter. I hope therapy helps with her depression.

[CCL]

Jan 24, 2017 19:10:50 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

OMG, I'm so scared for my daughter. I have Scar and she's coming over for Chinese and I don't think I can keep it together.

Can you take her to ER tonight? If you really feel she is in danger, why wait?

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Take her tonight, why wait?

[CCL]

Hoping you and your daughter are feeling better by now.

[naughtybear]

I didn't take her tonight because she is an adult and wanted to leave her some control. We are leaving in an hour. I have no idea what to expect.

[finnime]

It will be okay, because you are getting help.

 There are several types of depression. Most patients have the situational (only) type, that is helped by therapy and meds, and chiefly by the situation being addressed or time passing. Think a divorce, death, job loss or other high stress.

Biological recurrent major depressive disorder is the type I have. Meds are a must eventually. It worsens with each untreated episode. A bout can be triggered, but there is not always a clear cause.

Helping your DD now can prevent suicidality and also protect your DGD from a mother who is not fully there for her.

Whatever services your DD gets at first may not be enough, or of the type she really needs. If so she must keep looking until something does help. And as she is a young woman, try to suggest no Effexor. It has a black box warning up throw age 25.

Hang in there, naughtybear. Be the rock your DD and DGD need today.

[Opti]

Jan 25, 2017 10:03:01 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

I didn't take her tonight because she is an adult and wanted to leave her some control. We are leaving in an hour. I have no idea what to expect.

I would have never thought of going to ER for depression. Let us all know what happens. Is it bad enough that she should be hospitalized for a little while?

[naughtybear]

I spoke to her therapist office and that is what she recommended. From what I can understand they will then treat her more aggressively. I don't know, I don't know what else to do. She needs to be stabilized and I think the only way to do that quickly is in a hospital setting via the ER.

[finnime]

The ER will have her evaluated by a psychiatrist for immediate risk. Then a social worker will review her insurance and the psychiatrist's recommendations to get her connected to treatment. Probably inpatient for a few days, then maybe intensive outpatient - all depends on how she fares.


naughtybear, did or can the therapist call the hospital to say you're on the way? That will help, too.

[janee]

No advice, just posting to tell you I'll say a prayer for you both. You're doing the right thing, hope it helps her quickly.

[Shooby]

  It's a shame she can't get seen more quickly! Isn't there a therapist on call?  

[raeoflyte]

I know I was really harsh on your last thread.  I'm sorry your daughter is still struggling, and I hope she finds something that will help her soon.  

My sister was admitted for severe depression/suicide watch a few times, sent home with my folks once.  None of those incidents or times in therapy helped her, except maybe to validate that it was okay to not be okay and to keep working towards feeling better.  She was on a few different meds for several years and has made such an incredible recovery I'm honestly amazed.  She tries to stay in therapy at all times, but lapses here and there.  

She still has a lot of things to battle with, but she supports herself (and her cats!) with a great job and is the most supportive daughter, granddaughter, sister and auntie imaginable.  I can't imagine what I'd do without her now.  

[CCL]

Jan 25, 2017 10:35:05 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

I spoke to her therapist office and that is what she recommended. From what I can understand they will then treat her more aggressively. I don't know, I don't know what else to do. She needs to be stabilized and I think the only way to do that quickly is in a hospital setting via the ER.

I think you are doing the right thing taking her to ER. Good luck.

[Happy prose]

Best of luck to you and your daughter naughtybear. I can't imagine what you're feeling.

[mamasita99]

Thinking of you, naughtybear. Sent you a PM.

[Opti]

update?

[naughtybear]

Yes, have to decompress a little then will update.

[gs11rmb]

Jan 25, 2017 21:02:44 GMT -5 naughtybear said:

Yes, have to decompress a little then will update.

Hope it went well and your daughter is receiving the support she needs.

[bean29]

Hugs. How old is your Granddaughter? Hope everything went well with your daughter.