Cold Hard Truth From Politico: Democrats In The Wilderness

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 20, 2017 6:01:38 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I believe that this election might cripple both parties in the coming elections, and I am not sure the two party system survives.
The rise of Trump on the right and Bernie on the left represents a sea change in party loyalty of the party faithful.
Neither are members of their respective party.


Of course pundits claimed the Republican party was dead before November 8th because Trump  would destroy them with a historic loss, so what do I know?

If this administration fails in the next two years, then the Democrats will be reborn and saved.....

Just ask Democrats and the pundits that got it wrong for the last two years what they think will happen- then the opposite will happen.

[billisonboard]

Jan 24, 2017 16:35:20 GMT -5 b2r said:

     Idaho DNC Exec Director: ‘My Job Is To Shut Other White People Down’

She makes a good point. I encourage people to listen to all of it and not be limited by the title given to get.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 24, 2017 16:35:20 GMT -5 b2r said:

     Idaho DNC Exec Director: ‘My Job Is To Shut Other White People Down’

You're not a Democrat so you have nothing to fear from her.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Democratic Party is in full blown nuclear meltdown. They're destroying themselves before our very eyes and ears. I don't think there's any coming back from the 200,000 doofus march. 2020 is going to be Nixon 1972 all over again.

The Alt.left, race baiters, media elites, master card marxists, slacktivists, climate alarmists, grievance mongerers, eco-calvinists, Christophobics, islamofascists, anarchists, Bible haters, passive TV people, the unread, the incurious, the uneducated, the miseducated, the maleducated, the permanent political ruling class, Gang Green, hispanderers, Hollywood and Big Tech, the two party establishment, the dreamy dangerous globalists and the neo Victorians are in full seizure mode. Pass the popcorn.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 24, 2017 23:18:51 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Democratic Party is in full blown nuclear meltdown. They're destroying themselves before our very eyes and ears. I don't think there's any coming back from the 200,000 doofus march. 2020 is going to be Nixon 1972 all over again.

The Alt.left, race baiters, media elites, master card marxists, slacktivists, climate alarmists, grievance mongerers, eco-calvinists, Christophobics, islamofascists, anarchists, Bible haters, passive TV people, the unread, the incurious, the uneducated, the miseducated, the maleducated, the permanent political ruling class, Gang Green, hispanderers, Hollywood and Big Tech, the two party establishment, the dreamy dangerous globalists and the neo Victorians are in full seizure mode. Pass the popcorn.

How did that work out for Nixon after the 1972 election. And Ford pardoned him from going to prison.

ETA: Someone's having a meltdown.

[dondub]

I just witnessed "seizure mode".

[Tennesseer]

Trump just got his first approval rating as president — and it's not good

President Donald Trump's first job-approval rating is in, and it is the lowest an incoming president has ever received.

Only 45% of Americans approve of Trump's job performance over the first three days of his presidency, according to aGallup survey released Monday. It's the first time a president has received an initial approval rating under 50% in the history of the poll, which dates back to Dwight Eisenhower's first term in 1953.

Trump just got his first approval rating as president — and it's not good

The 57% approval rating poll was conducted by Rasmussen.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2017 23:18:51 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Democratic Party is in full blown nuclear meltdown. They're destroying themselves before our very eyes and ears. I don't think there's any coming back from the 200,000 doofus march. 2020 is going to be Nixon 1972 all over again.

The Alt.left, race baiters, media elites, master card marxists, slacktivists, climate alarmists, grievance mongerers, eco-calvinists, Christophobics, islamofascists, anarchists, Bible haters, passive TV people, the unread, the incurious, the uneducated, the miseducated, the maleducated, the permanent political ruling class, Gang Green, hispanderers, Hollywood and Big Tech, the two party establishment, the dreamy dangerous globalists and the neo Victorians are in full seizure mode. Pass the popcorn.

i call BS on that:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

there is no survey in that list where his approval is at 57%. 

currently, he is putting together numbers that are historically low.  he is at -8, or 41%.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 25, 2017 9:54:23 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump just got his first approval rating as president — and it's not good

President Donald Trump's first job-approval rating is in, and it is the lowest an incoming president has ever received.

Only 45% of Americans approve of Trump's job performance over the first three days of his presidency, according to aGallup survey released Monday. It's the first time a president has received an initial approval rating under 50% in the history of the poll, which dates back to Dwight Eisenhower's first term in 1953.

Trump just got his first approval rating as president — and it's not good

The 57% approval rating poll was conducted by Rasmussen.

not seeing that poll at RCP.  but even if i did, it is cherry picking at it's finest.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

As you can see, the photo is from Drudge, though I didn't link to each item because 'source' doesn't require a link. That is sometimes the job of the reader to locate the information sourced.

Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking poll for Tuesday showed that 57 percent of likely U.S. voters approved of President Trump’s job performance, and 43 percent disapproved. To break it down further, 42 percent strongly approve of the way Mr. Trump was performing and 33 percent strongly disapproved, Rasmussen reported.

www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2017/01/24/Rasmussen-Reports-poll-shows-Donald-Trump-approval-ratings-up-over-weekend.html

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Hey- you know what? Screw it. If those of you who want to see a Democratic comeback don't see a problem- why should I help you? 

[zibazinski]

I don't and if they're polling the wrong people, so be it. He's doing exactly what he said he'd do.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 25, 2017 12:40:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Hey- you know what? Screw it. If those of you who want to see a Democratic comeback don't see a problem- why should I help you? 

LOL at 'help'.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 25, 2017 12:40:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Hey- you know what? Screw it. If those of you who want to see a Democratic comeback don't see a problem- why should I help you? 

huh?  is it just me, or does that make no sense to anyone else?

when were you EVER going to help with that, Paul?  the only thing you loathe more than Republicans is Democrats.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 25, 2017 12:43:14 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I don't and if they're polling the wrong people, so be it. He's doing exactly what he said he'd do.

Yeah- this took me a minute to figure out. I was mainly voting against the infirm felon and traitor with the toxic personality. As it turns out, though, Trump is going to do EXACTLY what he said he's do and some of the Democrat's staunchest allies could not be more thrilled...

[djAdvocate]

yes, because protectionism has always been first on the GOP agenda......










not.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 25, 2017 15:52:52 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, because protectionism has always been first on the GOP agenda......










not.

[Opti]

Jan 25, 2017 18:04:14 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 25, 2017 15:52:52 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, because protectionism has always been first on the GOP agenda......










not.

Genuine free trade often does require agreements. Most countries are protectionist in nature using tariffs or taxes on incoming goods. Agreements are made in hopes of make the trade more fair and of course to benefit all countries that make the agreements. I don't know what inspired NAFTA, but from a high view it really was an attempt to be like the European Union only for North America.

Is trade free when China manipulates its currency?

When country X taxes imports 5 times as much as exports? Or taxes imports far more than its peer countries? Is it free trade simply because no agreement is made?

[djAdvocate]

Jan 25, 2017 18:04:14 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jan 25, 2017 15:52:52 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yes, because protectionism has always been first on the GOP agenda......










not.

Rothbard hated unions, and unions hated Rothbard.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I am working on articulating what Trump is doing, but the short answer is that he is staking out positions on issues that have broad bi-partisan voter appeal (note I said VOTER appeal- the politicians are hopeless- pretty much in BOTH parties) and he's forcing Democrats to defend lunatic fringe issues. In this way, he has exploited the Democratic Party’s own strategy of mass delusion which attempts to make most people believe these issues are widely supported.

Basically, he's doing to Democrats what they used to do to us. They use to make us defend the lunatic fringe on the political right (who were pretty much phonies anyway). Trump has marginalized the so-called "conservative movement"- the Glenn Beck's et al are not our lunatics anymore; the neocons who call National Review home have pretty much cut themselves off from Trump. It's almost miraculous.

Add to this his refusal to bow to political correctness, he neutralized that weapon- the one gaffe and done political strategy of the establishment simply does not work on Trump. The result is that the Democrat's attempts to reinstate the old political status quo with the same old racistsexistbigothomophobexenophobeislamophobe lines of attack make Democrats align with the whack jobs on the left.

Combined with solid majorities in the House, and Senate, and a "trifecta" of house, senate, governor in 2/3rds of the states, and the total collapse of the media- media at ZERO credibility for all intents and purposes-- President Trump has a veritable monopoly on power the likes of which perhaps only Washington and FDR have ever really enjoyed.

[billisonboard]

Jan 27, 2017 16:56:54 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... -- President Trump has a veritable monopoly on power the likes of which perhaps only Washington and FDR have ever really enjoyed.

Which will make it very interesting, positively or negatively, as time goes on.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 27, 2017 20:12:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jan 27, 2017 16:56:54 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... -- President Trump has a veritable monopoly on power the likes of which perhaps only Washington and FDR have ever really enjoyed.

Which will make it very interesting, positively or negatively, as time goes on.

Lincoln also had nearly tyrannical power.  curiously two of those three suspended habeas corpus.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 27, 2017 22:20:04 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 27, 2017 20:12:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Which will make it very interesting, positively or negatively, as time goes on.

Lincoln also had nearly tyrannical power.  curiously two of those three suspended habeas corpus.

Good point. I suppose I would still exclude Lincoln because the circumstances were quite extraordinary.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Basically, the media is still trying to gaslight the public; while they're doing that- the sparing with Spicer serves as a distraction while Trump does BIG things.

[dezailoooooo]

Jan 27, 2017 16:56:54 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I am working on articulating what Trump is doing, but the short answer is that he is staking out positions on issues that have broad bi-partisan voter appeal (note I said VOTER appeal- the politicians are hopeless- pretty much in BOTH parties) and he's forcing Democrats to defend lunatic fringe issues. In this way, he has exploited the Democratic Party’s own strategy of mass delusion which attempts to make most people believe these issues are widely supported.

Basically, he's doing to Democrats what they used to do to us. They use to make us defend the lunatic fringe on the political right (who were pretty much phonies anyway). Trump has marginalized the so-called "conservative movement"- the Glenn Beck's et al are not our lunatics anymore; the neocons who call National Review home have pretty much cut themselves off from Trump. It's almost miraculous.

Add to this his refusal to bow to political correctness, he neutralized that weapon- the one gaffe and done political strategy of the establishment simply does not work on Trump. The result is that the Democrat's attempts to reinstate the old political status quo with the same old racistsexistbigothomophobexenophobeislamophobe lines of attack make Democrats align with the whack jobs on the left.

Combined with solid majorities in the House, and Senate, and a "trifecta" of house, senate, governor in 2/3rds of the states, and the total collapse of the media- media at ZERO credibility for all intents and purposes-- President Trump has a veritable monopoly on power the likes of which perhaps only Washington and FDR have ever really enjoyed.

What you are really doing is scratching your butt trying  to come up with reasons to explain   this bad example of POTUS  who is embarressing so many, including supporters, u included, by his actions and doings ...

Realize if u can't deflect the criticisms being directed toward him both domestically, and by his party members too, plus foreign allies wondering " what the h--l is up with this guy.." it is going to be a very, very long four years if his party doesn't rise up in disgust and merge with those across the aisle and correct what seems to be so far a great mistake by the electorate of this country...

Hey after 240 plus years possible a first time do over isn't that bad a record...and done peacefully by the way...

[Tennesseer]

Jan 25, 2017 11:17:30 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

As you can see, the photo is from Drudge, though I didn't link to each item because 'source' doesn't require a link. That is sometimes the job of the reader to locate the information sourced.

Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking poll for Tuesday showed that 57 percent of likely U.S. voters approved of President Trump’s job performance, and 43 percent disapproved. To break it down further, 42 percent strongly approve of the way Mr. Trump was performing and 33 percent strongly disapproved, Rasmussen reported.

www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2017/01/24/Rasmussen-Reports-poll-shows-Donald-Trump-approval-ratings-up-over-weekend.html

Wednesday February 22, 2017

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove.

The latest figures include 37% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 39% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2.

Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Jan 24, 2017 23:18:51 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Democratic Party is in full blown nuclear meltdown. They're destroying themselves before our very eyes and ears. I don't think there's any coming back from the 200,000 doofus march. 2020 is going to be Nixon 1972 all over again.

The Alt.left, race baiters, media elites, master card marxists, slacktivists, climate alarmists, grievance mongerers, eco-calvinists, Christophobics, islamofascists, anarchists, Bible haters, passive TV people, the unread, the incurious, the uneducated, the miseducated, the maleducated, the permanent political ruling class, Gang Green, hispanderers, Hollywood and Big Tech, the two party establishment, the dreamy dangerous globalists and the neo Victorians are in full seizure mode. Pass the popcorn.

Now that's a word salad.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Yeah- that's played out. You libs are like Chatty Cathy dolls- only you don't have to pull a string to hear and endless stream of racistsexistbigothomophobexenophobeislamophobewordsaladnarcissistsociopath25thAmendment

Whatevs bro.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 25, 2017 11:09:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 24, 2017 23:18:51 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The Democratic Party is in full blown nuclear meltdown. They're destroying themselves before our very eyes and ears. I don't think there's any coming back from the 200,000 doofus march. 2020 is going to be Nixon 1972 all over again.

The Alt.left, race baiters, media elites, master card marxists, slacktivists, climate alarmists, grievance mongerers, eco-calvinists, Christophobics, islamofascists, anarchists, Bible haters, passive TV people, the unread, the incurious, the uneducated, the miseducated, the maleducated, the permanent political ruling class, Gang Green, hispanderers, Hollywood and Big Tech, the two party establishment, the dreamy dangerous globalists and the neo Victorians are in full seizure mode. Pass the popcorn.

i call BS on that:

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

there is no survey in that list where his approval is at 57%. 

currently, he is putting together numbers that are historically low.  he is at -8, or 41%.

There also was not a poll that showed him not only winning the election with OH, FL, and NC-- but also, WI, MI, and PA.   

Democrats love all the polls except polling places- where they consistently lose. Barack Obama presided over the collapse of the Democratic party into a fringe regional party with no hope of returning to national power. The GOP is two states away from being able to invoke the Article V Convention of the States (efforts well underway) and Amend the Constitution unopposed. Chew on that poll.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Guess what Paul, we aren't all libs or bros. Your posts since winning really insult your intelligence, or what what credit I once gave you.