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Post by zibazinski on Jan 15, 2017 21:32:43 GMT -5
That's how he sucks you in. Can you imagine how frustrating it would be if just the libs had nothing to do but pat each other on the back? Calling those that disagree names is much more exciting.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 15, 2017 21:35:38 GMT -5
That's how he sucks you in. Can you imagine how frustrating it would be if just the libs had nothing to do but pat each other on the back? Calling those that disagree names is much more exciting. so is baiting posters by pretending to know how they think and feel, apparently.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 15, 2017 21:37:25 GMT -5
You've stated you're a lib and proud to be one. I'm not implying anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 21:39:39 GMT -5
Dez, I was giving Richard the sources he requested, which he could have clicked on himself if he'd wanted to...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 21:42:42 GMT -5
Omg. I looked up drumph and there is a guy who tweets as drumph, lol.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 15, 2017 21:42:43 GMT -5
You've stated you're a lib and proud to be one. I'm not implying anything else. i wasn't criticizing any implication, but this: Calling those that disagree names is much more exciting. i don't call people i disagree with names. and i don't call President Trump President Trump because it is "exciting". i call assholes names because they are assholes, and i do it because it amuses me, and because i don't care about their feelings. and no amount of calling that into question is going to make me stop, but you are as free to do so as i am free to call President Trump President Trump.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 15, 2017 21:44:25 GMT -5
Whatever. Like shooby, I got sucked in. It's pointless.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 15, 2017 21:45:54 GMT -5
Whatever. Like shooby, I got sucked in. It's pointless. so is life. make the best of it, and stop complaining.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 15, 2017 21:48:06 GMT -5
Whatever. Like shooby, I got sucked in. It's pointless. so is life. make the best of it, and stop complaining. Suck it up buttercup.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 15, 2017 21:55:00 GMT -5
oh I read it, the whole thing..just to make sure I got it the first time., will read it again.. well read it again and will stand by my feeling the article deserves it's own thread...will reserve any more of my comments toward that thread , if any interest shown..not sure about that..Shooby definitly didn't feel it deserved much comments,..... ....well can't win em all [PS] still didn't understand your.."You obviously didn't read it if you're endorsing it"...hope it's not because you and I don't ever agree on anything..if so that is just silly....IMHO of course Let's put it this way: you either a) didn't read it, b) read it but didn't understand it, or c) read it, understood it, and are excited for everyone to read about how repealing the ACA will reduce the US deficit by $100 billion per year into the indefinite future. I guessed ( a). Wrong.........again.......think I understood....big costs involved to country...deficit increases...massive by just removing...those removing don't want to make a big public spectical about the cost so do everything yo curtail the publiv knowledge and public discussion of costs ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 21:57:24 GMT -5
Whatever. Like shooby, I got sucked in. It's pointless. What is pointless?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 15, 2017 22:54:20 GMT -5
Let's put it this way: you either a) didn't read it, b) read it but didn't understand it, or c) read it, understood it, and are excited for everyone to read about how repealing the ACA will reduce the US deficit by $100 billion per year into the indefinite future. I guessed ( a). Wrong.........again.......think I understood....big costs involved to country...deficit increases...massive by just removing...those removing don't want to make a big public spectical about the cost so do everything yo curtail the publiv knowledge and public discussion of costs ... The net balance of the repeal--reduction in spending minus the loss of recirculated tax revenue--is projected to be just under $100 billion a year. I never thought I'd say this, but: even though $100 billion per year doesn't seem like much, it's still $100 billion a year better off than you were.
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Post by dondub on Jan 15, 2017 23:09:18 GMT -5
Let's compromise using Richard's Rules of Order: Donald President Trump.
See that....it's got Donald in it.
And what's worse for me....sharing a name with DT or a birthday with Obama. That's MY day damnit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 0:43:04 GMT -5
Let's compromise using Richard's Rules of Order: Donald President Trump.
See that....it's got Donald in it.
And what's worse for me....sharing a name with DT or a birthday with Obama. That's MY day damnit! "President Trump" isn't a descriptive adjective like "Crooked" is... so if you really wanted to go by "Richard's Rules of Order", it would have to be "Fraudulent Trump", "Lying Trump", "Disgusting Donald", "Childish Donald", "Immature Donald", or some other combination of descriptive adjective AND HIS REAL NAME. (for the record, I don't have any issues with any of those I've suggested... I think they describe him quite well)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 0:47:33 GMT -5
Dez, I was giving Richard the sources he requested, which he could have clicked on himself if he'd wanted to... One of which stated the true number ($350B)... I believe it was the first one... but I'm not going back to check. And the condescension in the post was unnecessary. I check links all the time. I was hoping dez would get the hint and NOT use biased links to prove an unprovable point. The point of my telling dez that I would entertain any unbiased links was for her to start using unbiased links, if she wanted me to consider them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 1:49:24 GMT -5
I agree the source wouldn't have been my choice, but the source did link to itsdata, which was one of the ones I provided. Ie. The data extrapolation was available on the link. It was just one click back from the analysis.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 16, 2017 3:04:10 GMT -5
i must have missed the part where President Trump said he would lower the deficit. can someone point out where he said that? if not, i think it is safe to assume that he cares about it about as much as his Republican predecessors = not at all. Who is this "President Trump" you keep mentioning? Is he a Senator or Representative from somewhere? You know exactly who it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 4:00:46 GMT -5
Who is this "President Trump" you keep mentioning? Is he a Senator or Representative from somewhere? You know exactly who it is. Nope. Don't know who "President Trump" is. I looked at the names of all the current Senators, Representatives, Cabinet positions... no "President Trump". Looked at all the new incoming elected officials too... not a single one of them named "President Trump".
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 16, 2017 4:15:59 GMT -5
You know exactly who it is. Nope. Don't know who "President Trump" is. I looked at the names of all the current Senators, Representatives, Cabinet positions... no "President Trump". Looked at all the new incoming elected officials too... not a single one of them named "President Trump". Got it. The entire planet knows who President Trump refers to, except you.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 16, 2017 8:19:42 GMT -5
Yes well I'd hate to be referred to as my father's father's last name. It's horrid and long. Thank GOD for Ellis Island and a nice immigration officer. You know, like when people came here legally? Hard to believe.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 16, 2017 8:22:19 GMT -5
Only a fool argues with one.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 16, 2017 8:57:43 GMT -5
The line had to be drawn somewhere. The boards were being over run with pejorative names for the candidates, with "Trump", "Cankles", and worse running amok on here. We risked losing our immense credibility amongst ourselves as serious and intellectually gifted political analysts. Some names had been publicized by the candidates themselves (usually about their opponents). Trump made pejoratives such as "Lyin' Ted", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" into known phrases that were all over the daily news. The Mods generally agreed that such names were in the public domain and it would interfere with discourse about current political events not to allow their use and discussion relating to them. Regarding the name "President Trump", it is actually the correct ancestral surname of Donald Trump and his relatives. While it is generally used in a mocking sense here, that is actually rather silly, as there is nothing laughable or "wrong" with the name in the native German tongue. It is a perfectly respectable name. Of course in English "Weinerschneitzel" (SP) sounds rather funny. In German, not so much. It sounds delicious. I come from a Germanic background and I take great offense to our heritage being ridiculed. You think a Germanic name is funny, it's OK to be mocked? No, never...and actually me too regarding my last name...but would never really claim as such...doubt true Germans would disagree with me there...but have to say...a heritage being ridiculed....well there is...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 9:18:46 GMT -5
He never said that. He said people intend it that way, but it's silly to do so because: German heritage.
Seriously, read for understanding not to be insulted.
I never understood the whole Hussain thing either.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 16, 2017 9:22:55 GMT -5
No, never...and actually me too regarding my last name...but would never really claim as such...doubt true Germans would disagree with me there...but have to say...a heritage being ridiculed....well there is... Yeah well according to Deminmaine it's ok to be ridiculed...as long as it's just used in a "mocking sense" and not a serious defamation. Well I like demin and usually agree with him but then again..my wife and I divorced but still fond of her..think her to me too..[ not really that sure but sure as hell not sending out a text to her]...
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Post by dezailoooooo on Jan 16, 2017 9:45:48 GMT -5
Well I like demin and usually agree with him but then again..my wife and I divorced but still fond of her..think her to me too..[ not really that sure but sure as hell not sending out a text to her]...If you think she is still fond of you too then send the text man...the worst that can happen is she says "not interested" or maybe something worse but the point is that you're still back here where you are as the worst case scenario. lol....sorry, no interest both sides and yeah we get along fine..usually meet once a year at Daughters for Thanksgiving in Concord , Mass for a week or so...get along fine...she is in California, me Florida...divorce decades ago....send electronic cards..new years, holidays,,,birthday to her...
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 16, 2017 10:50:58 GMT -5
The line had to be drawn somewhere. The boards were being over run with pejorative names for the candidates, with "Trump", "Cankles", and worse running amok on here. We risked losing our immense credibility amongst ourselves as serious and intellectually gifted political analysts. Some names had been publicized by the candidates themselves (usually about their opponents). Trump made pejoratives such as "Lyin' Ted", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" into known phrases that were all over the daily news. The Mods generally agreed that such names were in the public domain and it would interfere with discourse about current political events not to allow their use and discussion relating to them. Regarding the name "President Trump", it is actually the correct ancestral surname of Donald Trump and his relatives. While it is generally used in a mocking sense here, that is actually rather silly, as there is nothing laughable or "wrong" with the name in the native German tongue. It is a perfectly respectable name. Of course in English "Weinerschneitzel" (SP) sounds rather funny. In German, not so much. It sounds delicious. I come from a Germanic background and I take great offense to our heritage being ridiculed. You think a Germanic name is funny, it's OK to be mocked? Mine is Russian. Must have gotten points for having a lot of letters.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 16, 2017 10:59:01 GMT -5
Yes well I'd hate to be referred to as my father's father's last name. It's horrid and long. Thank GOD for Ellis Island and a nice immigration officer. You know, like when people came here legally? Hard to believe. The whole "President Trump" thing is meant as an insult anyway, and the one saying it is immune from mod action, one of the "protected" folks like the "seriouse guy who can't spell." The way I look at is that they can say "President Trump" all they want...President Trump is our president though so hey, you win on a message board and we win on national policy. precisely, so stop getting so grumpy about it. our small victory is meaningless. and it helps us smile in the face of catastrophe.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 16, 2017 11:02:53 GMT -5
The line had to be drawn somewhere. The boards were being over run with pejorative names for the candidates, with "Trump", "Cankles", and worse running amok on here. We risked losing our immense credibility amongst ourselves as serious and intellectually gifted political analysts. Some names had been publicized by the candidates themselves (usually about their opponents). Trump made pejoratives such as "Lyin' Ted", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" into known phrases that were all over the daily news. The Mods generally agreed that such names were in the public domain and it would interfere with discourse about current political events not to allow their use and discussion relating to them. Regarding the name "President Trump", it is actually the correct ancestral surname of Donald Trump and his relatives. While it is generally used in a mocking sense here, that is actually rather silly, as there is nothing laughable or "wrong" with the name in the native German tongue. It is a perfectly respectable name. Of course in English "Weinerschneitzel" (SP) sounds rather funny. In German, not so much. It sounds delicious. I come from a Germanic background and I take great offense to our heritage being ridiculed. You think a Germanic name is funny, it's OK to be mocked? it is not his Germanic heritage that is being mocked. it is him. and there is a reason it is hilarious, and that is because he is so thin skinned that we KNOW it gets to him. anyone getting PERSONALLY offended should dial it down a notch. it is not YOU that is being teased. attempting to widen the argument to make it seem like more than it is doesn't buy you anything. i am also of Germanic heritage and i think it is fucking hilarious. nice try, tho.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 16, 2017 11:08:09 GMT -5
The line had to be drawn somewhere. The boards were being over run with pejorative names for the candidates, with "Trump", "Cankles", and worse running amok on here. We risked losing our immense credibility amongst ourselves as serious and intellectually gifted political analysts. Some names had been publicized by the candidates themselves (usually about their opponents). Trump made pejoratives such as "Lyin' Ted", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary" into known phrases that were all over the daily news. The Mods generally agreed that such names were in the public domain and it would interfere with discourse about current political events not to allow their use and discussion relating to them. Regarding the name "President Trump", it is actually the correct ancestral surname of Donald Trump and his relatives. While it is generally used in a mocking sense here, that is actually rather silly, as there is nothing laughable or "wrong" with the name in the native German tongue. It is a perfectly respectable name. Of course in English "Weinerschneitzel" (SP) sounds rather funny. In German, not so much. It sounds delicious. I come from a Germanic background and I take great offense to our heritage being ridiculed. You think a Germanic name is funny, it's OK to be mocked? Have you forgotten all the mocking of Barack Hussein Obama's name? Or do you only take offensive regarding your heritage.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 16, 2017 12:53:29 GMT -5
Have you forgotten all the mocking of Barack Hussein Obama's name? Or do you only take offensive regarding your heritage. Except that's actually, literally and precisely president obama's full legal name... President Trump is like three generations back on trumps side. What would the reaction be to finding obamas great grandfathers name and ridiculing it on the air... Doesn't matter. Many mocked his name because of its Muslim background.
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