I knew It Must Be True: 'Man-Flu'

[Tennesseer]

The Scientific Explanation Behind 'Man-Flu'

Before you brush off your husband's case of man-flu, you may want to read this article. Scientific evidence may exist to back up the concept of “man-flu,” or the idea that men experience illness worse than women. According to a new study, evolution may have engineered viruses to go easier on women so they would pass on the infection to children via pregnancy. 

The study, which is published online in Nature Communications, proposes that there may be an evolutionary advantage for viruses to be gentler on women than men, New Scientistreported. Before viruses can spread, they must create copies of themselves, which in turn causes an immune response from the body that we experience as symptoms of an illness. Viruses would have a better chance of surviving and being passed on to babies if a female host lives long enough to spread the germs.

We already know that certain viruses have worse outcomes for males than females. For example, New Scientist reported that human T-cell lymphotropic virus type 1 (HTLV-1)inexplicably progresses to leukaemia much more commonly in Japanese men than Japanese women. The phenomenon can even be seen in the animal kingdom; when flocks of chickens are infected with a particular virus, more of the males develop tumors than females.

Rest of article here:  link

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

I call "bull poop".  Anyone can manipulate data to say what they want it to say.  

You guys are wusses, plain and simple.  A case of the sniffles and you want your Mommas.    

And God forbid a woman get sick with the flu and (gasp!) take to her bed.  The whole household caves under from the ensuing chaos.  Not only that, she, more often than not, drags her sick butt out of bed to make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.  

Sorry,Tennesseer , I like you, but I'm not buying this fiction.  

[sesfw]

make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.






Last time I was sick a couple of months ago this is exactly what I had to do.  I was so dizzy I couldn't stand so I sat in the kitchen and told DH what to do.

[msventoux]

Dec 17, 2016 21:57:28 GMT -5 sesfw said:

make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.






Last time I was sick a couple of months ago this is exactly what I had to do.  I was so dizzy I couldn't stand so I sat in the kitchen and told DH what to do.

Out of curiosity, when you ladies say "make chicken soup" you do mean cracking open a can of Campbell's chicken soup and maybe heating it, right?  I can do that.  If you mean make chicken soup from scratch, I can't do that and have it be edible on a good day, let alone when I'm sick.  Yet another girl power I failed to inherit. 

[Tennesseer]

Dec 17, 2016 21:35:32 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

I call "bull poop".  Anyone can manipulate data to say what they want it to say.  

You guys are wusses, plain and simple.  A case of the sniffles and you want your Mommas.    

And God forbid a woman get sick with the flu and (gasp!) take to her bed.  The whole household caves under from the ensuing chaos.  Not only that, she, more often than not, drags her sick butt out of bed to make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.  

Sorry,Tennesseer , I like you, but I'm not buying this fiction.  

I have the sniffles. It must be leftover from the 1917 world-wide influenza epidemic according to the Internet.

Interesting thing I just found out. When I was young back in the 50s and 60s the flu was sometimes called 'The Grip'. We kids went to the pediatrician for flu or grip shots. While looking up the 1917 influenza outbreak, I found out one of several names for the influenza outbreak at that time was called 'Spanish Flu' and 'La Grippe'. Now I know where the Grip originated.

[weltschmerz]

Dec 17, 2016 23:16:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 17, 2016 21:35:32 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

I call "bull poop".  Anyone can manipulate data to say what they want it to say.  

You guys are wusses, plain and simple.  A case of the sniffles and you want your Mommas.    

And God forbid a woman get sick with the flu and (gasp!) take to her bed.  The whole household caves under from the ensuing chaos.  Not only that, she, more often than not, drags her sick butt out of bed to make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.  

Sorry,Tennesseer , I like you, but I'm not buying this fiction.  

I have the sniffles. It must be leftover from the 1917 world-wide influenza epidemic according to the Internet.

Interesting thing I just found out. When I was young back in the 50s and 60s the flu was sometimes called 'The Grip'. We kids went to the pediatrician for flu or grip shots. While looking up the 1917 influenza outbreak, I found out one of several names for the influenza outbreak at that time was called 'Spanish Flu' and 'La Grippe'. Now I know where the Grip originated.

We still call it La Grippe here.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 17, 2016 23:30:45 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Dec 17, 2016 23:16:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I have the sniffles. It must be leftover from the 1917 world-wide influenza epidemic according to the Internet.

Interesting thing I just found out. When I was young back in the 50s and 60s the flu was sometimes called 'The Grip'. We kids went to the pediatrician for flu or grip shots. While looking up the 1917 influenza outbreak, I found out one of several names for the influenza outbreak at that time was called 'Spanish Flu' and 'La Grippe'. Now I know where the Grip originated.

We still call it La Grippe here.

Interesting. I have nor heard it called the grip since the mid-1960s. Always the flu since then.

[weltschmerz]

Yes, "the flu" in English.
"La grippe" in French.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 17, 2016 23:39:10 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Yes, "the flu" in English.
"La grippe" in French.

And the French word just dawned on me. I grew up in Springfield Mass. Springfild had a good sized French Canadian population. While my paternal grandparents were born in Springfild, their older brothers and sisters along with their parents and more way back when were born in Quebec. So it must have been my father's family who called it ' La Grippe' though with an anglicized pronunciation.

And my friends in grammar school with French last names also called it the grip..

[weltschmerz]

Russians also call it "grip"
(We don't have a word for "the".

[wyouser]

Dec 17, 2016 21:35:32 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

I call "bull poop".  Anyone can manipulate data to say what they want it to say.  

You guys are wusses, plain and simple.  A case of the sniffles and you want your Mommas.    

And God forbid a woman get sick with the flu and (gasp!) take to her bed.  The whole household caves under from the ensuing chaos.  Not only that, she, more often than not, drags her sick butt out of bed to make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.  

Sorry,Tennesseer , I like you, but I'm not buying this fiction.  

But, But, we gets the "man-flu" cause we needs excuses to retire to our man-caves where we can be left alone to pursue our NFL daydreams on the "big screen"   (yes, chips, dips and brewskis help the healing process along too)

[TheOtherMe]

When my mom would get sick, my dad was so helpless that she had to meals for my sister and me as well as for him, no matter how sick she was.

When he was sick, he was at death's door.

[formerroomate99]

Playing dumb to get out of unpleasant tasks is the oldest trick in the book.  Though, women do bring it on themselves by marrying children.   

[swamp]

Dec 17, 2016 23:16:56 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 17, 2016 21:35:32 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

I call "bull poop".  Anyone can manipulate data to say what they want it to say.  

You guys are wusses, plain and simple.  A case of the sniffles and you want your Mommas.    

And God forbid a woman get sick with the flu and (gasp!) take to her bed.  The whole household caves under from the ensuing chaos.  Not only that, she, more often than not, drags her sick butt out of bed to make herself chicken soup because, apparently, most men don't know how.  

Sorry,Tennesseer , I like you, but I'm not buying this fiction.  

I have the sniffles. It must be leftover from the 1917 world-wide influenza epidemic according to the Internet.

Interesting thing I just found out. When I was young back in the 50s and 60s the flu was sometimes called 'The Grip'. We kids went to the pediatrician for flu or grip shots. While looking up the 1917 influenza outbreak, I found out one of several names for the influenza outbreak at that time was called 'Spanish Flu' and 'La Grippe'. Now I know where the Grip originated.

My dad still calls it the grippe.   His father's first language was French, as was most of the adults where he grew up, and the flu is still referred to as the grippe by the older people.   I think the name just stuck. 

[sesfw]

Out of curiosity, when you ladies say "make chicken soup" you do mean cracking open a can of Campbell's chicken soup and maybe heating it, right? I can do that.  

No ... any kind of soup from a can .......... Too much sodium




Chicken soup 'from scratch' ........ sorta

6    cups water
1    12 oz can  chicken from Costco ......... drained, rinsed, cut up
3    tspn low/no sodium chicken bouillon powder/granules  
      The only place around here I can get this is Safeway in the powdered soup section
1    tspn low sodium 'better than bouillon'  ..... for flavor  ... I get at Costco
2   cloves of garlic ........ or 1 tspn of minced from a jar
1/4 cup chopped onion ......... or more
1/2 cup chopped celery ...... or more
1/4 tspn black pepper
1/4 tspn cayenne pepper
1/4 tspn 'no salt' ..... bottom shelf in the spice section of grocery

2 scant cups egg noodles

Put everything together, except noodles, in a large sauce pan and bring to a boil
Add noodles and allow to cook for 10 minutes

Adjust seasonings to suit.

Takes about 30 minutes total

[weltschmerz]

A can of chicken? What IS that?

I'm making soup right now. I saved the turkey carcass, and bought some chicken soup bones, necks and backs.
Boil and add lots of garlic, a whole onion, celery, carrots, parsnips, bay leaf, a big bunch of dill and parsley.
Simmer for at least two hours, preferably more. I like it so that it turns to jelly in the fridge. That's the sign of a very rich soup.
I portion it out and freeze it. Then, when anyone is sick or hungry, you have soup at the ready.

[weltschmerz]

If your stock turns to jelly in the fridge, it means you did it right!
Simmering the bones breaks down the collagen and turns it into gelatin; that's the very essence of stock-making. The gelatin is exactly what you want from the stock; at low temperatures it has a very jelly-like consistency, but at higher temperatures it melts and provides a very rich texture.

cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/9555/why-did-my-turkey-stock-turn-into-gelatin

[sesfw]

A can of chicken? What IS that?






Cooking is NOT on my list of talents ...... I am  doing good with this recipe ..... 

[weltschmerz]

Lol! I don't think I've ever seen a can of chicken.

[weltschmerz]

Does it contain bones? You really need the bones for a rich broth.

[weltschmerz]

I also don't chop the onions or celery. When they're boiled a long time, they turn mushy and disgusting. I fish the big pieces of celery out, as well as the whole onion before portioning it out.
Besides, all the nutrients have already been boiled out.

[Jake 48]

 I am taking my life into my own hands with this

[weltschmerz]

The soup turned out fantastic!!
A friend came over to exchange gifts, and had two big bowlfuls.

....and he doesn't like soup!

[NastyWoman]

Dec 28, 2016 17:32:55 GMT -5 Jake 48 said:

 I am taking my life into my own hands with this

No you're not...there is nothing left to lose -> you're dead my friend 

[milee]

Dec 24, 2016 20:01:15 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

When my mom would get sick, my dad was so helpless that she had to meals for my sister and me as well as for him, no matter how sick she was.

When he was sick, he was at death's door.

It's better now that the boys are older but I remember vividly when the boys were little I was deathly sick with the flu and was touched at how worried they all seemed to be. I had chills and fever; woke from a nap and both boys plus DH were leaning over me with a look of worry on their face.  Their foreheads wrinkled as they asked... Nope, not "mom, are you OK?" Instead, the question was "Mom, what's for dinner?"

[Lizard Queen]

In Polish, it's called grypa, though the word could have very well been adopted from another language.

[TheOtherMe]

Dec 28, 2016 21:35:04 GMT -5 milee said:

Dec 24, 2016 20:01:15 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

When my mom would get sick, my dad was so helpless that she had to meals for my sister and me as well as for him, no matter how sick she was.

When he was sick, he was at death's door.

It's better now that the boys are older but I remember vividly when the boys were little I was deathly sick with the flu and was touched at how worried they all seemed to be. I had chills and fever; woke from a nap and both boys plus DH were leaning over me with a look of worry on their face.  Their foreheads wrinkled as they asked... Nope, not "mom, are you OK?" Instead, the question was "Mom, what's for dinner?"

When I was very ill this past spring, I was talking to my doctor about how hard it was to have to take my dad out to eat and watch the food.  She told me she had had an upset stomach and her kids did what you said.  She told them they were on their own.