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Post by engineerdoe on Nov 16, 2016 17:33:47 GMT -5
Should we start the pool for when Trump announces his resignation as President? His need of control for his "brand" is not going to like the confines of POTUS. I see his leaving for dinner after his spokeswoman telling the press he was in for the night as an act of of defiance at the short leash that comes with the job.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 16, 2016 17:43:00 GMT -5
The majority of people pretty much distrust the media and believe it's intentionally biased at this point. I think avoiding reporters probably doesn't bother most of the population. Having direct access to documents through wikileaks, seeing how many articles are wrong and retracted, reading the sensationalist headlines and then the text of the event itself, have all eroded faith in the media. Well to be fair he wasn't just trying to avoid the paparazzi. He was evading the press pool. I looked up "Press pool" Press pool refers to a group of news gathering organizations that combine their resources in the collection of news. A pool feed is then distributed to members of the broadcast pool who are free to edit it or use it as they see necessary. In the case of print reporters, a written pool report is distributed to all membersThe reasons are covered in the wikipedia. The POTUS is an institution. One never knows when news will happen, but the press pool is assigned to be with the POTUS at all times. The press pool goes on Air Force One, for example. So he wasn't a tired celebrity trying to evade the paparazzi to have a quiet family dinner. His life is changing. He may not like aspects of the job, but it isn't an ala carte menu.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 16, 2016 17:43:40 GMT -5
They really should give up red meat. It is bad for them.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 17:47:41 GMT -5
They really should give up red meant. It is bad for them. Asking a lot for a pack of carnivores. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/charmed.png)
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 16, 2016 17:50:29 GMT -5
They really should give up red meat. It is bad for them. Asking a lot for a pack of carnivores. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/charmed.png) ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/rofl.gif) and now I see I spelled "meat" wrong!!!!! Must go back and edit. I edited the quote!! See good things come when one quotes and one reads the quote!!!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 16, 2016 17:56:34 GMT -5
Should we start the pool for when Trump announces his resignation as President? His need of control for his "brand" is not going to like the confines of POTUS. I see his leaving for dinner after his spokeswoman telling the press he was in for the night as an act of of defiance at the short leash that comes with the job. I see it also at chaffing at the short leash. Bush hated it as well. But I don't see him resigning. Power is addictive.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 18:02:27 GMT -5
Should we start the pool for when Trump announces his resignation as President? His need of control for his "brand" is not going to like the confines of POTUS. I see his leaving for dinner after his spokeswoman telling the press he was in for the night as an act of of defiance at the short leash that comes with the job. I see it also at chaffing at the short leash. Bush hated it as well. But I don't see him resigning. Power is addictive. But will Trump perceive the position as having power or will he feel its limits as powerlessness?
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 16, 2016 18:12:35 GMT -5
Should we start the pool for when Trump announces his resignation as President? His need of control for his "brand" is not going to like the confines of POTUS. I see his leaving for dinner after his spokeswoman telling the press he was in for the night as an act of of defiance at the short leash that comes with the job. He's already announced that he doesn't want to stay full time at the White House. He doesn't want to go slumming, I guess. He has no problem with parts of Manhattan being shut down/closed off due to security concerns. Screw all the business owners in the area! They're not important.
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Post by engineerdoe on Nov 16, 2016 18:19:37 GMT -5
I see it also at chaffing at the short leash. Bush hated it as well. But I don't see him resigning. Power is addictive. But will Trump perceive the position as having power or will he feel its limits as powerlessness? To be clear he only got into this to make money for himself, which he has. Just running increased his "brand". Actually having to be POTUS, he does not have the stamina nor drive for. There is a reason all presidents age considerably over their terms. Just imagine what he is being told in these transition meetings.
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Post by parker1b2 on Nov 16, 2016 18:41:31 GMT -5
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Post by cronewitch on Nov 16, 2016 18:41:37 GMT -5
But will Trump perceive the position as having power or will he feel its limits as powerlessness? To be clear he only got into this to make money for himself, which he has. Just running increased his "brand". Actually having to be POTUS, he does not have the stamina nor drive for. There is a reason all presidents age considerably over their terms. Just imagine what he is being told in these transition meetings. His daughter will be advertising her clothing and jewelry too. I hope he learns how much depends on the president and tries to live up to his obligations. It does age them with stress not just hard work. Imagine knowing millions of people could die if you aren't careful and he isn't good at careful. He can mess up bigly, it will be huge.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 18:56:28 GMT -5
... Obama ditched the press on his pre-inauguration to take his daughters to a water park ... On Friday the 26th of December, Obama ditched the press on his pre-inauguration Hawaiian vacation to take his daughters to a water park ...
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 18:59:14 GMT -5
I think the press is looking for examples of Trumps vindictiveness and trying to redeem themselves because of the election. But it's like the boy who cried wolf. If they keep slamming him for things that a lot of people consider reasonable then no one will listen when the issues are important. The rhetoric has become so shrill that it's easier and easier to tune it all out, like your crazy aunt that's angry all the time. Agreed. I think it is unfortunate that the article used the example of the dinner to introduce the lack of transparency issue that the rest of the article discusses.
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Post by dondub on Nov 16, 2016 19:12:22 GMT -5
Sarah Palin ditched her entire constituency to get a boob job.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 19:29:20 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 16, 2016 19:34:29 GMT -5
Since I was the one that was right, I'll be the one we're listening to here. I'm going to explain this once: If you do not understand why this ridiculous non-controversy is shark jumping of the highest order, you are going to be sitting here in 2020 wondering why in the hell Trump got re-elected.
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Post by dondub on Nov 16, 2016 19:36:34 GMT -5
You were for Cruz.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 16, 2016 19:38:26 GMT -5
Since I was the one that was right, I'll be the one we're listening to here. I'm going to explain this once: If you do not understand why this ridiculous non-controversy is shark jumping of the highest order, you are going to be sitting here in 2020 wondering why in the hell Trump got re-elected. Does it achieve the level of not worth starting a thread level of shark jumping?
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Post by emma1420 on Nov 16, 2016 19:38:29 GMT -5
Since I was the one that was right, I'll be the one we're listening to here. I'm going to explain this once: If you do not understand why this ridiculous non-controversy is shark jumping of the highest order, you are going to be sitting here in 2020 wondering why in the hell Trump got re-elected. The press likes to make something out of nothing, when it's a slow news day. It's why I'll never believe that Trump becoming president isn't their wet dream. He feeds the beast with a new scandal or gaff regularly. He's much better for ratings.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 16, 2016 20:11:08 GMT -5
To be clear he only got into this to make money for himself, which he has. Just running increased his "brand". Actually having to be POTUS, he does not have the stamina nor drive for. There is a reason all presidents age considerably over their terms. Just imagine what he is being told in these transition meetings. His daughter will be advertising her clothing and jewelry too. I hope he learns how much depends on the president and tries to live up to his obligations. It does age them with stress not just hard work. Imagine knowing millions of people could die if you aren't careful and he isn't good at careful. He can mess up bigly, it will be huge.
His daughter will be advertising her clothing and jewelry too.
She already has. She used the 60 minutes puff piece to hawk her $8000 bracelet - sending a "Style Alert" to about how you, too, can buy Ivanka`s favorite $10,000 bangle from her metropolis collection if you liked it when you saw her wear it on “60 Minutes” in this news interview she did there with her father. The Trumps are already using the office to enrich themselves further "Meet the Future First Lady" (the dot gov website is paid for by the taxpayers) She also runs her own jewelry line called Melania Timepieces & Fashion Jewelry and sells on QVC.www.greatagain.gov/meet-future-first-lady.htmlAnd his kids running the business while he is president inside of a blind trust ?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 16, 2016 20:12:01 GMT -5
Since I was the one that was right, I'll be the one we're listening to here. I'm going to explain this once: If you do not understand why this ridiculous non-controversy is shark jumping of the highest order, you are going to be sitting here in 2020 wondering why in the hell Trump got re-elected. Hillary Clinton is still alive.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Nov 16, 2016 22:21:00 GMT -5
To be clear he only got into this to make money for himself, which he has. Just running increased his "brand". Actually having to be POTUS, he does not have the stamina nor drive for. There is a reason all presidents age considerably over their terms. Just imagine what he is being told in these transition meetings. His daughter will be advertising her clothing and jewelry too. I hope he learns how much depends on the president and tries to live up to his obligations. It does age them with stress not just hard work. Imagine knowing millions of people could die if you aren't careful and he isn't good at careful. He can mess up bigly, it will be huge. " Imagine knowing millions of people could die if you aren't careful and he isn't good at careful. He can mess up bigly, it will be huge."I had read somewhere that Nixon was participating in some war scenario while on Air Force 1..scenario was a attack on USA by the Soviets and they came to him for a decision of a response...and in considering that , he was questioning what results would/might be for both countries and others... Supposedly he was so shocked by how few choices he had..and what most likely be the result of..what the results probably would be, that , supposedly, was when he decided to send Kissinger to China to make a approach..the reasoning being the Soviets would see that their two major foes possible getting together..not good for them..giving us more choices if the worst came about and naturally opening up a dialogue with China that benefits us today.. I have to wonder as all this is explained to the Donald..the responsibility of and consequences of..if any of this new knowledge, reality of what could happen, influence him from his former caviler approach to the ok spreading of the nuclear option to Japan, Saudia Arabia, Korea and any other country who has the $ and expertise...also change his feelings of the deal with Iran..who with out that possible having a bomb today or very soon...and also have him wondering why did I get into this thing with the responsibilities in the first place. The fringe benefits..Camp David, Air Force 1..for someone like him , it is nothing...especially when he will have to curtail many things he would have done before..now he has consraints placed on him just because of the position he holds...
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 16, 2016 22:48:19 GMT -5
Air Force 1? Trump doesn't want to live at the White House and doesn't want to go slumming on AF1. Washington (CNN)When he was running for president, Donald Trump boasted he would swap out Air Force One with his private jet. But now that he has won the presidency, can he really continue to use his personal aircraft? A US official told CNN it would be "nearly functionally impossible" for President Trump to fly on anything other than the Air Force One, which is owned by the US military. www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-air-force-one/God, I hope he doesn't whore up AF1 with enough gold to make it look like a fancy brothel.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 17, 2016 10:54:15 GMT -5
There's actually no requirement for the President to relinquish control of his business interests. Our nation was founded on the assumption that the President was and should remain our peer- a private citizen, not relying on the presidency for their livelihood. I was pleased to see Trump will only take $1.00 as a salary (he said, no salary-- but apparently he HAS to take some sort of stipend?). Shame though- we could have had Hillary for .77 cents.
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Post by rob base on Nov 17, 2016 11:01:55 GMT -5
Just because there is no requirement to do something doesn't make it right. Dude needs to separate himself from his business. Unfortunately I don't see any way that he can.....
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 17, 2016 11:26:27 GMT -5
Just because there is no requirement to do something doesn't make it right. Dude needs to separate himself from his business. Unfortunately I don't see any way that he can..... Paul is correct in that there is no legal requirement. But an ethical person would put their assets into a blind trust as previous presidents have done. Since the Trumps hace already begun to use. the highest office in the land to personally enrich themselves, they've demonstrated their total lack of ethics.
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Post by rob base on Nov 17, 2016 11:30:32 GMT -5
I like how ur kind of giving them a slight benefit of the doubt with the TOTAL lack of ethics remark.
I m sure if Hillary was elected you would be just a critical. I mean it's not like she has a questionable foundation or anything.
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