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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 10, 2016 22:46:00 GMT -5
Perhaps. But I don't think they doctored the pictures of that monument. Or that the police lied about the girl who fabricated the story about being attacked. I did not place a bumper sticker on my car, place a sign on my yard, or wear a political t-shirt because of things like this- www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/Again with the source, I know. But I doubt this is a doctored video. There is, and has been, fear on both sides for years. And this outgoing administation did little to calm things down.
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Post by Opti on Nov 10, 2016 22:58:44 GMT -5
Anyone who isn't pro hil and her dems aren't welcome here. Why is continually whining about you feeling you are unwelcome, is OK, but people protesting the President elect who literally has told some they aren't welcome, not OK?
Stop bedazzling your victim card. This forum works best with an exchange of ideas. And unlike YM, when posters rip your ideas to shreds, they aren't ripping you to shreds. Here, most posters can divorce how they feel about the idea from how they feel about the poster. If you can't post here with your sacred ox, watch it get gored by everyone, and patch up your ox and move on ... this might not be the board for you.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 10, 2016 23:02:08 GMT -5
i was going to post something snarky but decided against it. But it's not like I don't know as well as others do about why you feel the way you do about things.
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Post by Opti on Nov 10, 2016 23:49:12 GMT -5
i was going to post something snarky but decided against it. But it's not like I don't know as well as others do about why you feel the way you do about things. Zib, I like you, but unlike you I've been on this forum the entire time its been here. Its never been a kumbya forum. Bad arguments get ripped to shreds here. And IMO they should be.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Nov 11, 2016 0:17:49 GMT -5
I do believe that Trump's supporters voted for him for a variety of reasons and not all of them have something to do with hatred of one kind or another, or the need to feel superior to whoever they consider beneath them. However. It is clear that Trump's campaign made many Americans bold enough to shed their masks that hid all the ugly things that lived in their hearts all along. I understand that what's in those people's hearts often comes from fear and pure ignorance, but that doesn't make it any more tolerable to me. And I'll be honest again and say that I feel some type of way about what I've seen and read these last few months.. I've always known that racism was still alive and well in our country, but I'm still shocked. I am sad. Even I thought we were better than this, as a whole. I've lived among racists all my life, but I still believed they were just a very small minority. Now I know there are many. To have a President who fuels these kinds of fires, who racists, sexists and homophobes see as their own kind... it makes me feel, I'll call it "uncomfortable". For the first time in my life I am "uncomfortable". Of course not all are racist...but many are and the leaders of some of the most racist groups such as "Duke" of the klu klux clan are bragging on he/how they helped elect the President elect. Whether he, the President elect, actually believes the racist stuff he was preaching or not, by pandering to those who do believe it, he encouraged them..gave them a public spokesman with credentials for the first time...it won't be that easy to turn them off..and possible he might not want to do that. He may/will find opposition to some of his ideas as he developes them and to have a ready supportive cadre, mob ready to support and intimidate..similer to the Brown Shirts who were Adolfs supporters till he had their leaders killed in the night of the long knives and then the Brown Shirts dissolved but entered into the military..replaced by the SS...he may want to keep these folks close and around him. To claim that scenario or something similer would never happen...this is a very scary man and time..This is not the typical leader that my country is use to and it is no secret as to how he operates..we have had a year and a half of his mouth and words..first against his own partys candidates and then against Hillery... That he got such support from so many...I admit I never saw it coming. Possible he will turn out to be a fabulouse President...but from the experience of 18 months of campaining I really doubt it..I believe we have seen the real Donald and as much as he will be watching his p's and Q's...in time the real Donald will come out.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 11, 2016 0:20:29 GMT -5
The Ku Klux Klan says it will hold a Trump victory parade in North Carolinahttp://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory Congratulations Trump supporters.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 11, 2016 0:28:47 GMT -5
Dezi- Please turn on the news. See the riots happening? Those are not Trump supporters. They are your beloved Democrats.
I voted for Trump and I am no brown shirt. Please stop refering to us as nazis.
Scary is wearing a Trump hat in the wrong neighborhood.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Nov 11, 2016 0:31:33 GMT -5
The Ku Klux Klan says it will hold a Trump victory parade in North Carolinahttp://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-kkk-trump-north-carolina-1478822255-htmlstory Congratulations Trump supporters. You believe no open bigots support Clinton? Or it only matters if it happens to be a racist group that supports a Republican candidate because it fits your preconceived biased opinion?
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Post by Opti on Nov 11, 2016 0:34:02 GMT -5
I'm frustrated and worried. DH is downtown for school and the protesters are breaking car and store windows. This doesn't help! Agreed. Protest OK. Breaking car and store windows not OK.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 11, 2016 0:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 11, 2016 0:47:44 GMT -5
OK pappy, you made your point above. Please don't make post after post to the same member such as this as it becomes baiting after a while. You are free to edit your previous post to put your other link on the subject in there.
Thanks,
deminmaine- Moderator.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 11, 2016 0:57:43 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 11, 2016 1:20:17 GMT -5
Obama has more class in his little finger than tne facist will have in his lifetime.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 11, 2016 1:21:22 GMT -5
And you omitted the fact that the future POTUS broke with tne tradition of tne press pool's presence.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Nov 11, 2016 1:30:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 3:16:35 GMT -5
I believe she was referring to Trump's refusal to allow the press to follow/join him on his plane for the trip TO D.C.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 11, 2016 6:48:55 GMT -5
In the Famous words from Rodney King,,,,"Can we all get along?"
Nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 11, 2016 6:58:26 GMT -5
I do believe that Trump's supporters voted for him for a variety of reasons and not all of them have something to do with hatred of one kind or another, or the need to feel superior to whoever they consider beneath them. However. It is clear that Trump's campaign made many Americans bold enough to shed their masks that hid all the ugly things that lived in their hearts all along. I understand that what's in those people's hearts often comes from fear and pure ignorance, but that doesn't make it any more tolerable to me. And I'll be honest again and say that I feel some type of way about what I've seen and read these last few months.. I've always known that racism was still alive and well in our country, but I'm still shocked. I am sad. Even I thought we were better than this, as a whole. I've lived among racists all my life, but I still believed they were just a very small minority. Now I know there are many. To have a President who fuels these kinds of fires, who racists, sexists and homophobes see as their own kind... it makes me feel, I'll call it "uncomfortable". For the first time in my life I am "uncomfortable". Not a single person that I know had any racial motivation when they voted for Trump! We voted for Trump simply because, We disliked Hillary more than we disliked Trump, That's it!!
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Post by Waffle on Nov 11, 2016 7:25:24 GMT -5
OldCoyote, Do you realize that your comment and the comment that @pink cashmere posted are not mutually exclusive?
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 11, 2016 7:26:47 GMT -5
Not because she has a vagina either but keep on using that excuse.
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Post by Shooby on Nov 11, 2016 7:29:03 GMT -5
We didn't win! We need our trophy!!! Let's accuse Trump of destroying America while we go out and destroy America.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 11, 2016 7:31:12 GMT -5
That should apply to mods as well please.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 11, 2016 7:50:35 GMT -5
Indeed. We all are running on political adrenaline this week. But we are all Americans. What happens at my neighbor's house affects me more than what happens in the White House. Trump supporters are not Nazis, and Hillary supporters are not welfare cheats. Those comparisons are infantile and intellectually embarrassing. Amen
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 11, 2016 8:00:08 GMT -5
OldCoyote , Do you realize that your comment and the comment that @pink cashmere posted are not mutually exclusive? You may have to explain it to me. What I understood that Pink said was, she thought that the were racial undertone of voting for Trump. I just said that no one that I knew voted for Trump because of that motivation.
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Post by rob base on Nov 11, 2016 8:26:09 GMT -5
So the Dems were all worried about protests / people acting up WHEN Hillary won (back when we all thought Hillary would win). But it's interesting that DURING the campaign, incidents at Hillary events were minimal while there were quite a few whack-a-doodles at Trump events (to include him having to cancel a Chicago event due to police warnings or whatever). Now AFTER the election look at all the people acting up.......interesting. But let's worry about all those wacky Trump supporters......
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Post by Waffle on Nov 11, 2016 8:40:45 GMT -5
OldCoyote I cannot quote from my phone,but Pink Cashmere's very first sentence said that she knew that some people's vote for Trump had nothing to do with racism or hatred any kind. I think we can acknowledge that he appealed to racists (the official KKK newspaper was one of the few newspapers that he got an endorsement from) without thinking that everyone who voted for him is a racist.
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Post by toshmanta on Nov 11, 2016 9:44:34 GMT -5
The term racism should be abolished from the English language, it is meaningless, there is only one race, the human race.
Racism is used to describe colour, cultural and religious differences.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 11, 2016 10:02:27 GMT -5
That should apply to mods as well please. Zib, there is a forum in which you can complain about moderation to your heart's content. This is not it! I've moved several of your complaints to the proper thread. I expect further ones to show up there, not on the other forums. Furthermore, a post like this one gives us absolutely no information. You're welcome to PM any moderator, or moonbeam, if you feel a moderator is "baiting", if you don't want to post it in the proper forum. We will, however, need more than a one-liner. mmhmm, Politics Moderator
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Post by sesfw on Nov 11, 2016 11:28:57 GMT -5
We voted for Trump simply because, We disliked Hillary more than we disliked Trump, That's it!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 12:14:13 GMT -5
We voted for Trump simply because, We disliked Hillary more than we disliked Trump, That's it!!
As is your right, and I respect that. I never said that everybody that supported and voted for him was a racist, woman hating homophobe. I said that his campaign made a shocking (to me) number of racists comfortable revealing themselves as such in their support of him.
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