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Post by ugonow on Mar 19, 2011 12:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 14:33:34 GMT -5
Turn about is fair play i guess... GOP has consistently mocked ron paul... much to the organization's detriment... to my way of thinking
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 19, 2011 20:19:10 GMT -5
As much as I want Congress to continue to support NPR, I think that Paul is a bit off here, "a move which might save the government $10 million dollars when..." I belive it is closer to $ 400 million when both PBS and NPR are figured in , unless I misread what has been said in the budget. I think if it was $10 million, even the biggest critics here would have said, why are they wasting their time on such things. While $10 million is not a bad estate in the scheme of Government expenditures it's not even pocket change. I wonder why he would say something so far off unless I misread the actual cost of the $ given to these two organizations. As far as Afghanistan, mmmmm , because of the corruption in Kabul, Karzi man of corruption , lack of services from what I understand to the people by the government which really isn't a government, he may be on to something.
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Post by handyman2 on Mar 19, 2011 22:30:36 GMT -5
I agree we should defund NPR and we have done all we can do in Afghanistan. There is nothing to gain by staying there. The corruption is imbeded in their system and it is not going to change. What are they going to do come here and bomb us.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 19, 2011 22:54:27 GMT -5
Lately the GOP has been mocking itself. The trivial steps the GOP is taking to tackle the very real problem of what can only be described as a debt disaster, and the consequences of that crisis which are nothing short of the bankruptcy and economic collapse of the United States-- are insulting. It's as if they think Congress was missing a Court Jester- I guess someone forgot to tell Mitch McConnell that Joe Biden is Senate President. We may as well have Nancy back in the House.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 19, 2011 23:38:50 GMT -5
... We may as well have Nancy back in the House. She is still in the House.
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Post by Shirina on Mar 20, 2011 4:01:25 GMT -5
This move to defund NPR was never about saving money. It was about trying to undermine what the GOP perceives to be a liberal news organization - which basically includes any news organization that dares to criticize them. After all, this nonsense began when a senior NPR exec. accused the Tea Party of racism. It certainly didn't start with the budget crisis.
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Post by Bluerobin on Mar 20, 2011 5:12:16 GMT -5
This is not the GOP that I joined and they are well deserving of derision.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 6:54:32 GMT -5
And if you look at the WHOLE video... which apparently the GOP is not capable of?.. He didn't even do that..
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 20, 2011 7:00:17 GMT -5
Ron Paul has been trying to pass legislation that will cut our Defense Budget to the bare necessities. He wants to bring all or our troops overseas home in the next ten years. And had given some ballpark estimates how much money that would save us. So far there has been no interest and he is about to retire when his congressional term ends. However I think his son Rand may pick up the ball and run with it or try to get the senate to take up this debate..
Cutting funding for NPR is now on Harry Reid's to do list so let's see what he does or doesn't do with it... The Republicans claim they have the necessary two or three votes in the senate they need to end this federal funding so stay tuned in ..
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 20, 2011 7:00:57 GMT -5
This move to defund NPR was never about saving money. It was about trying to undermine what the GOP perceives to be a liberal news organization - which basically includes any news organization that dares to criticize them. After all, this nonsense began when a senior NPR exec. accused the Tea Party of racism. It certainly didn't start with the budget crisis. The one who expressed his own feelings had nothjing to do with programming, personnel, policy, he was a fund raiser, granted one of the big ones but still , a fund raiser.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 20, 2011 7:02:15 GMT -5
This move to defund NPR was never about saving money. It was about trying to undermine what the GOP perceives to be a liberal news organization - which basically includes any news organization that dares to criticize them. After all, this nonsense began when a senior NPR exec. accused the Tea Party of racism. It certainly didn't start with the budget crisis. Who cares what it is really "about"? The government shouldn't be funding it in the first place. Pull the plug. Won't happen for a while yet, hopefully cooler heads will have a second thought. It's now a political pill and possible it night come back to bite the ones pushing it in the butt as those pubs and peopl in the hinterlands, who would be affected by the stoppage of funds live, those pubs who also love NPR, Seseme street. Won't happen? Dallas , no NPR, not sure about PBS.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 20, 2011 7:06:13 GMT -5
Ron Paul has been trying to pass legislation that will cut our Defense Budget to the bare necessities. He wants to bring all or our troops overseas home in the next ten years. And had given some ballpark estimates how much money that would save us. So far there has been no interest and he is about to retire when his congressional term ends. However I think his son Rand may pick up the ball and run with it or try to get the senate to take up this debate.. Cutting funding for NPR is now on Harry Reid's to do list so let's see what he does or doesn't do with it... The Republicans claim they have the necessary two or three votes in the senate they need to end this federal funding so stay tuned in .. I will be surprised if they do. Thje Democrats also know how to play the political game too, question they would force Obama to cast a veto here, IMHO. He would.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 7:17:57 GMT -5
[/quote]The one who expressed his own feelings had nothjing to do with programming, personnel, policy, he was a fund raiser, granted one of the big ones but still , a fund raiser.[/quote]
And he wasn't expressing his own feelings... he at most was agreeing with someone else's feeling... Nice of them to leave out most of what he said (in bold below...)
SCHILLER: I won't break a confidence, but a person who was an ambassador -- so a very highly placed Republican -- another person who was one of the top donors to the Republican Party, they both told me they voted for Obama, which they never believed they could ever do in their lives. That they could ever vote for a Democrat, ever. And they did, because they believe that the current Republican Party is not really the Republican Party. It's been hijacked by this group that is
"AMIR MALIK": The radical, racist, Islamophobic, Tea Party people?
SCHILLER: Exactly. And not just Islamophobic but really xenophobic.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 20, 2011 8:55:15 GMT -5
There's a serious question of whether [defunding NPR] will even cut one penny, but at least the fiscal conservatives are going to be overwhelmingly in support of slashing NPR, go home and brag about how they're such great fiscal conservatives! And the very most they might save is $10 million. And that's their claim to fame for slashing the budget. At the same time they won't consider for minute cutting a real significant amount of money.Read more: www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-defund-military-npr-2011-3?op=1#ixzz1H9EF5XwnOk I applaud Ron Paul for having the big one to lay it all on the line to his party....but will anyone in congress listen to him?? He was also against us going into Kuwait in 1991 and was jeered by his own party, he was against us going into Afghanistan after 9/11 and said we as a nation brought this crisis on ourselves and he was jeered by his own party. and he said we should not invade Iraq in 2003 and was jeered by his party...so I suspect he will be jeered again by his party..
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Post by ugonow on Mar 20, 2011 9:04:04 GMT -5
I am sort of surprised he didn't mock the republicans that fought for the making of airplane engines the military didn't want,or the continuation of NASCAR funding,but saw the need for an emergency session to save money by cutting NPR funding.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 20, 2011 9:27:52 GMT -5
Ron Paul may be out front on a lot of issues but you have to admire him for being one of the few who speak his mind and doesn't pull any punches. I bet he is driving John Boehner to tears.... but don't underestimate Ron Paul who has a lot of clout on the Banking Commission and has been pushing a lot of amendments for more spending cuts....he doesn't strike out all the time but just quite often....IMHO.
At first I thought he was much too radical but the more I know about him and his ideas you have to agree he is a fiscal hawk and that is not a bad thing these days.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 20, 2011 12:38:17 GMT -5
There's a serious question of whether [defunding NPR] will even cut one penny, but at least the fiscal conservatives are going to be overwhelmingly in support of slashing NPR, go home and brag about how they're such great fiscal conservatives! And the very most they might save is $10 million. And that's their claim to fame for slashing the budget. At the same time they won't consider for minute cutting a real significant amount of money.Read more: www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-defund-military-npr-2011-3?op=1#ixzz1H9EF5XwnOk I applaud Ron Paul for having the big one to lay it all on the line to his party....but will anyone in congress listen to him?? He was also against us going into Kuwait in 1991 and was jeered by his own party, he was against us going into Afghanistan after 9/11 and said we as a nation brought this crisis on ourselves and he was jeered by his own party. and he said we should not invade Iraq in 2003 and was jeered by his party...so I suspect he will be jeered again by his party.. Yeah, if you look at his congressional voting record you will notice a pattern of him sticking to his word. I think he probably has one of the most consistent records in history.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 20, 2011 12:41:21 GMT -5
There's a serious question of whether [defunding NPR] will even cut one penny, but at least the fiscal conservatives are going to be overwhelmingly in support of slashing NPR, go home and brag about how they're such great fiscal conservatives! And the very most they might save is $10 million. And that's their claim to fame for slashing the budget. At the same time they won't consider for minute cutting a real significant amount of money.Read more: www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-defund-military-npr-2011-3?op=1#ixzz1H9EF5XwnOk I applaud Ron Paul for having the big one to lay it all on the line to his party....but will anyone in congress listen to him?? He was also against us going into Kuwait in 1991 and was jeered by his own party, he was against us going into Afghanistan after 9/11 and said we as a nation brought this crisis on ourselves and he was jeered by his own party. and he said we should not invade Iraq in 2003 and was jeered by his party...so I suspect he will be jeered again by his party.. Yeah, if you look at his congressional voting record you will notice a pattern of him sticking to his word. I think he probably has one of the most consistent records in history. Ron Paul was elected @ six times in his Texas Congressional District so they seem to be happy with his performance as Dr No...although many think his economic ideas from the Austrian School of Economics are outdated and not what our economy needs today to sustain increased growth.
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Post by Bluerobin on Mar 20, 2011 12:52:01 GMT -5
I for one will NOT miss NPR if they go belly up! What a bunch of bore ass idiots! Cut all funding for them
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 20, 2011 13:01:20 GMT -5
Yeah, if you look at his congressional voting record you will notice a pattern of him sticking to his word. I think he probably has one of the most consistent records in history. Ron Paul was elected @ six times in his Texas Congressional District so they seem to be happy with his performance as Dr No...although many think his economic ideas from the Austrian School of Economics are outdated and not what our economy needs today to sustain increased growth. Maybe, but our current economics is not doing the job. Sometimes the answer to complex problems is K.I.S.S.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 20, 2011 13:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 20, 2011 15:01:07 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 20, 2011 15:19:47 GMT -5
Senators urge Obama to lead on debt, taxes Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=5037#ixzz1HAnBy6INYea I saw that Safeharbor and not only that but the CBO issued a report that said the President's Budget Proposal was not even close with it's estimate for debt reduction and suggested he go back to the drawing board. Maybe that is one of the many reasons he jumped on AF#1 and headed down to Rio where he and the President of Brazil have tarriff and UN Security Council issues...and he walked into a buzz saw because she is one tough lady to negotiate with.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 20, 2011 15:36:13 GMT -5
A bipartisan majority of the Senate called on President Obama on Friday to lead a broad effort to slash U.S. debt through spending cuts and tax increases as part of negotiations on this year’s budget.
A letter to Obama on Friday signed by 60 senators ... 60 Senators can't get it done???
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 20, 2011 17:07:52 GMT -5
Apparently not. All 60 Senators from the same party could get done was to create the huge deficit that is now the problem. Problem is that the big spenders are simply waiting to see who has to take responsibility for the pain that cuts will inevitably cause. And the underlying problem is the people who aren't willing to do what must be done, but insist that anyone who separates them even slightly from the government teat is evil. In other words, the entitlement crowd who think only of me, me, me while accusing those who actually create wealth of greed.
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