Libya, How about doing this....

[deziloooooo]

They are saying that Gadaffi will not just back down, so what about forgetting Gaddaffi and his sons, though a few might be with the Gaddafi Brigades in the field.

Supposedly , Gaddaffis forces are spread out in military positions on the roads to where the insurgents are, ready for a set up of attack as the road of Death in Kuwait.

There is desert on all sides of that road, possible some people but over ll empty.

The ones to influence are the commanders of Gaddafi's forces on the ground. Fire into the desert, my first thought . Demonstration of the forces of what is available and how susceptible they, Libyans forces, are to these forces.
Cruse missiles, possible loaded with anti personnel explosives if so loaded , if not then just what is normally contained in them.

I am thinking, before sending in fighter bombers, with anti personnel explosives, the Libyan Air Force, anti aircraft , missile air defenses, really has to be taken out, and there is all ways a danger of enemy fire affecting allied planes.

I am a commander on the ground, I see what I am going to be faced with, the message should get across.

Could the forces spread out, separate themselves? Of course but this is not a sophisticated military that is easily able to maneuver effectively in a military manner, more skater and run is my thinking, as the Iraqi's learned quickly, leaving the protection of their armor and moving away and surrendering rather then stay and be slaughtered.

Just a thought , I know i am way above my pay grade here, but I think the coalition forces are really not interested in a few thousand casualties of Gaddafi's troops or more. More they want Qaddafi out, first thing a real cease fire and then negotiations to remove him.

[privateinvestor]

BREAKING NEWS: Obama says U.S. fears 'atrocities' in Libya, will use military force

[swamp]

Mar 18, 2011 13:38:03 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

BREAKING NEWS: Obama says U.S. fears 'atrocities' in Libya, will use military force

Whether or not this is a good idea is still up in the air. However, I have a logistical question. We're already fighting 2 wars and our soldiers have been deployed multiple times. Where are the people and equipment going to come from?

[privateinvestor]

Military action authorized by the United Nations against Libyan forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi could take place under NATO command or under a coalition of the willing led by France and Britain.

NATO said its ambassadors would meet to discuss their response, while analysts expect an initial strike would target Libya's military aircraft, air force bases and communication systems.

Following are assets that could be used in action against Libya, and those belonging to Gaddafi's military:

FRANCE

France, which was at the forefront of the push to take action in Libya, would likely deploy Mirage and Rafale fighters from air bases near the Mediterranean towns of Marseille and Istres or from the island of Corsica.

Airborne refueling tanker aircraft are also ready to depart from Istres.

Fighter jets could reach Libya in around an hour and a half from the south of France

BRITAIN

Britain said it would deploy Typhoon patrol jets and all-weather Tornado attack aircraft which are based at Royal Air Force bases in Scotland and the eastern county of Norfolk but would be moved in the coming hours to unidentified bases nearer Libya.

Prime Minister David Cameron told parliament that air-to-air refueling and surveillance aircraft would also be used.

Britain has two frigates off the Libyan coast: HMS Cumberland and HMS Westminster. The Ministry of Defense said it was not clear if they would be used in any operation and added destroyers could also be deployed.

UNITED STATES

The Pentagon said that it was ready to carry out orders on Libya but said it would not discuss possible operations.

The U.S. Navy has five combat ships in the Mediterranean, including at least one guided missile destroyer. The United States does not have any aircraft carriers close to Libya.

The USS Enterprise, which in recent weeks was stationed in the Red Sea, has been moved eastwards, away from Libya, to join the USS Carl Vinson, in the Arabian Sea to support Afghanistan operations.

Aviano, south of the Alps in Italy, is the region's only U.S. air base with aircraft assigned to it -- 42 F-16s. The Pentagon has declined to discuss the positioning of other planes in the region.

The United States has a range of military bases and installations in the Mediterranean elsewhere in Italy, Greece, Spain and Turkey.

ITALY

Italy has given its full support to military action against Libya, saying that it would actively participate and offering its airbases.

Defense Minister Ignazio La Russa said seven bases in Italy -- at Amendola, Gioia del Colle, Sigonella, Aviano, Trapani, Decimomannu and Pantelleria -- were available and some allies had already asked to use them.

Five of them are on the southern mainland or Sicily, making them some of the closest available bases to Libya.

To read what the other fivw UN Countries can bring click on the link below:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42149581

[deziloooooo]

Mar 18, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 18, 2011 13:38:03 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

BREAKING NEWS: Obama says U.S. fears 'atrocities' in Libya, will use military force

Whether or not this is a good idea is still up in the air. However, I have a logistical question. We're already fighting 2 wars and our soldiers have been deployed multiple times. Where are the people and equipment going to come from?

Forces, Air, are going to come from five nations, ours too, we have our Carriers, cruise missles, even Marines handy if actually needed with helicopters available on those assault carriers, and they are niot counting on expanding this with land troops.
Just stopping the advncing, a pull back of his, Gaddafis , forces and a true cease fire.

[privateinvestor]

France, Britain, United States, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, and Arabs States are ready to bring forces on Libya. We don't have any US Carriers near Libya but do have land bases that can be used in the Arab countries if necessary.

I think this is also interesting regarding the strength of the Libyan Military:

Libya's military before the insurrection was on paper made up of 100,000 troops, backed by heavy artillery, tanks, warplanes and a small navy.

Since the rebellion, some members of the armed forces have defected and some hardware has fallen into rebel hands.

The level of rebel strength is difficult to ascertain, but the best-equipped and -trained units -- up to 12,000 men -- have remained loyal to Gaddafi because they are outside the regular army structure and are commanded by family members or people in his inner circle.

Libya's military has been undermined by sanctions and neglect. Much equipment is poorly maintained or unusable.

In Libya's east around Benghazi, regular military forces appear to have either defected to the opposition or melted away. Citizen groups have taken up arms. But analysts say the opposition lacks command and control.

STRENGTH ON PAPER:

GROUND FORCES - Numbers: 50,000 including 25,000 conscripts.

Main Battle Tanks - 800, although many are thought to be inoperable.