Germany is attacked by Islamic extremist tonight

[Value Buy]

attack award goes to Germany.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-least-10-injured-after-axe-attack-on-german-train/ar-BButw0P?li=BBnb7Kz

Too early to call it international terrorism, but does fulfill the idea of "when the heck does this stuff stop"?

UPDATE:
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725

Changed the title to reflect what happened.

[mroped]

Plenty of crazy! And they keep coming!

[busymom]

I wish all of this could be blamed on the full moon on July 19th, but it seems there is too much "crazy" out there right now. Be safe, Everyone!

[Value Buy]

Well, MSN does not want to upset President Obama and be negative in their reporting because it upsets people......

So I googled it just now.
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725
If you do not want to bother opening it, I will give you the short version.
Young Afghan male, screaming Allah is great!

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 18, 2016 21:18:18 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Well, MSN does not want to upset President Obama and be negative in their reporting because it upsets people......

So I googled it just now.
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36827725
If you do not want to bother opening it, I will give you the short version.
Young Afghan male, screaming Allah is great!

He was actually screaming "Aul Einhu Auchbart!"

That's German for "I lost my job at the post office."  Nothing to see here.

[Value Buy]

It is obvious our cable networks are much more interested in Cleveland this week.
Almost no mention of another Islamic attack. 

[Tennesseer]

Jul 19, 2016 8:11:57 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

It is obvious our cable networks are much more interested in Cleveland this week.
Almost no mention of another Islamic attack. 

Trump has pretty much been the main news headline on cable networks for months on end. Tragic events like the Dallas and Baton Rouge officer killings, the Pulse nightclub shootings, the Nice run down of innocent civilians, and the like hold the top headlines for just a few days and then fall back to Trump.

[Ombud]

Jul 19, 2016 4:51:58 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

He was actually screaming "Aul Einhu Auchbart!"

That's German for "I lost my job at the post office."  Nothing to see here.

From Value Buy 's link:

Some witnesses quoted by German media said they had heard him shout "Allahu akbar" ("God is great") during the attack.

In May, a man reportedly shouting "Allahu akbar" killed a man and wounded three others in a knife attack at a railway station near the German city of Munich.
He was later sent to a psychiatric hospital and authorities said they had found no links to Islamic extremism.

So either they're terrorists and Germany doesn't need them or they need mental health treatment and Germany doesn't need them or they're both terrorists but Merkel can't have that admission out in the open. Which one?

[mroped]

I'll go with nutcase that needs executed pronto! And not a nice one with a firing squad and such but the one where they dig their own grave, kneel, one on the back of the nugget and done!
They have no respect for human life, we have no respect for them!

[djAdvocate]

it will stop when we stop overreacting* to it.

[Ombud]

Jul 19, 2016 16:29:48 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it will stop when we stop reacting to it

by all becoming radical muslims?

[djAdvocate]

Jul 19, 2016 17:05:31 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Jul 19, 2016 16:29:48 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it will stop when we stop reacting to it

by all becoming radical muslims?

no, by becoming rational.

[Ombud]

I'm not in favor of living in fear bc that's what they want, but cannot find 1 time in history when rationalizing, turning the other cheek, or 'ignoring' solved terrorism

Enlighten me as to when it did

There are plenty of examples when assimilation by the less aggressive population did however

[zibazinski]

Garbage in, garbage out.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 19, 2016 17:23:47 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I'm not in favor of living in fear bc that's what they want, but cannot find 1 time in history when rationalizing, turning the other cheek, or 'ignoring' solved terrorism

Enlighten me as to when it did

i never said "rationalizing".  i said "becoming rational".

by that, i meant not overreacting. 

you remember EBOLA!!!!!?

that was going to devastate and kill us.  it might be a good time to remember where Trump and others were on that debate.

they were horribly fucking wrong.  and they made really bad choices.  why?  because they were not being rational.

we have wasted about a billion dollars so far in this "war on terrorism".  are we safer now than we were in 2003?

[Ombud]

Jul 19, 2016 17:47:07 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 19, 2016 17:23:47 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I'm not in favor of living in fear bc that's what they want, but cannot find 1 time in history when rationalizing, turning the other cheek, or 'ignoring' solved terrorism

Enlighten me as to when it did

i never said "rationalizing".  i said "becoming rational".

by that, i meant not overreacting. 

you remember EBOLA!!!!!?

that was going to devastate and kill us.  it might be a good time to remember where Trump and others were on that debate.

they were horribly fucking wrong.  and they made really bad choices.  why?  because they were not being rational.

we have wasted about a billion dollars so far in this "war on terrorism".  are we safer now than we were in 2003?

We aren't discussing a virus. We are discussing thinking beings. Can you enlighten me to one (1) time in history when terrorists did not take a life by others reacting according to your definition?

[djAdvocate]

Jul 19, 2016 17:51:02 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Jul 19, 2016 17:47:07 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i never said "rationalizing".  i said "becoming rational".

by that, i meant not overreacting. 

you remember EBOLA!!!!!?

that was going to devastate and kill us.  it might be a good time to remember where Trump and others were on that debate.

they were horribly fucking wrong.  and they made really bad choices.  why?  because they were not being rational.

we have wasted about a billion dollars so far in this "war on terrorism".  are we safer now than we were in 2003?

We aren't discussing a virus.

i was comparing ISIS & Co. to a virus, and i happen to think it is a pretty good comparison.

We are discussing thinking beings. Can you enlighten me to one (1) time in history when terrorists did not take a life by others reacting according to your definition?

of course.  can't you?

pretty much every time we have treated individual terrorists like criminals- hunted them down, arrested them, and brought them to trial- they have been unable to do any more of their "life's work" killing us.  they have either been summarily executed, or have spent their remaining time in a hole, where they could do nothing other than shit, eat, and pray.  that is precisely how it should be.

now, your turn:

can you name me one time when freaking out about terrorism (or anything else) has done us one stitch of good?

[Ombud]

Jul 19, 2016 17:23:47 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I'm not in favor of living in fear bc that's what they want, but cannot find 1 time in history when rationalizing, turning the other cheek, or 'ignoring' solved terrorism

Enlighten me as to when it did

There are plenty of examples when assimilation by the less aggressive population did however

I can't find a single time either

[djAdvocate]

Jul 19, 2016 18:09:08 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I can't find a single time in history either

yeah, i think we basically agree on this.  we should not panic.  we should go through the motions and do what we have to do to stop it.

i changed my original post.  "reacting" was a poor choice of words.  i should have said "OVERreacting".

my apologies.

[Ombud]

Jul 19, 2016 18:20:36 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 19, 2016 18:09:08 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I can't find a single time in history either

yeah, i think we basically agree on this.  we should not panic.  we should go through the motions and do what we have to do to stop it.

i changed my original post.  "reacting" was a poor choice of words.  i should have said "OVERreacting".

my apologies.

ABSOLUTELY!! If we stop living our lives, they've won. If we continue showing that side there's life choice options, they'll continue having trouble in their ranks. (Executing their fighters defectors now) I'm not ready to give in (I state as I'm getting ready to send someone off to study abroad in Toulon France)

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 19, 2016 17:47:07 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 19, 2016 17:23:47 GMT -5 Ombud said:

I'm not in favor of living in fear bc that's what they want, but cannot find 1 time in history when rationalizing, turning the other cheek, or 'ignoring' solved terrorism

Enlighten me as to when it did

i never said "rationalizing".  i said "becoming rational".

by that, i meant not overreacting. 

you remember EBOLA!!!!!?

that was going to devastate and kill us.  it might be a good time to remember where Trump and others were on that debate.

they were horribly fucking wrong.  and they made really bad choices.  why?  because they were not being rational.

we have wasted about a billion dollars so far in this "war on terrorism".  are we safer now than we were in 2003?

How do you know the outbreak wasn't contained as a result of public concern?

Government threw billions at the problem to contain it. That was the result of alarm. Airports on high alert was the result of alarm.

Even I think they went a bit too far in the Ebola outbreak, but neither of us can assert with any confidence that the outcome wouldn't have been far worse if they hadn't taken such extreme precautions.

I'm not saying a less alarmist reaction to axe-wielding maniacs on the subway isn't in order, but your Ebola analogy isn't helping your case.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 19, 2016 18:35:02 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 19, 2016 17:47:07 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i never said "rationalizing".  i said "becoming rational".

by that, i meant not overreacting. 

you remember EBOLA!!!!!?

that was going to devastate and kill us.  it might be a good time to remember where Trump and others were on that debate.

they were horribly fucking wrong.  and they made really bad choices.  why?  because they were not being rational.

we have wasted about a billion dollars so far in this "war on terrorism".  are we safer now than we were in 2003?

How do you know the outbreak wasn't contained as a result of public concern?

Government threw billions at the problem to contain it. That was the result of alarm. Airports on high alert was the result of alarm.

Even I think they went a bit too far in the Ebola outbreak, but neither of us can assert with any confidence that the outcome wouldn't have been far worse if they hadn't taken such extreme precautions.

I'm not saying a less alarmist reaction to axe-wielding maniacs on the subway isn't in order, but your Ebola analogy isn't helping your case.

just revive the Ebola thread.  it says all that needs to be said, imo.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 19, 2016 18:41:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 19, 2016 18:35:02 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

How do you know the outbreak wasn't contained as a result of public concern?

Government threw billions at the problem to contain it. That was the result of alarm. Airports on high alert was the result of alarm.

Even I think they went a bit too far in the Ebola outbreak, but neither of us can assert with any confidence that the outcome wouldn't have been far worse if they hadn't taken such extreme precautions.

I'm not saying a less alarmist reaction to axe-wielding maniacs on the subway isn't in order, but your Ebola analogy isn't helping your case.

just revive the Ebola thread.  it says all that needs to be said, imo.

ymam.proboards.com/thread/41895/dallas-hospital-nurse-ebola

It's right there. Other than you bleating like a goat in heat, what is it I'm supposed to see?

[mmhmm]

Jul 19, 2016 19:05:00 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 19, 2016 18:41:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

just revive the Ebola thread.  it says all that needs to be said, imo.

ymam.proboards.com/thread/41895/dallas-hospital-nurse-ebola

It's right there. Other than you bleating like a goat in heat, what is it I'm supposed to see?

I see quite a bit of "bleating" going on in that thread and it isn't all coming from  dj; nor, is it all coming from one side of the argument. Could we, perhaps, avoid that kind of comment toward other posters? It sure doesn't help promote the posting of relevant comments. Just a thought ...

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 19, 2016 19:12:36 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jul 19, 2016 19:05:00 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

ymam.proboards.com/thread/41895/dallas-hospital-nurse-ebola

It's right there. Other than you bleating like a goat in heat, what is it I'm supposed to see?

I see quite a bit of "bleating" going on in that thread and it isn't all coming from  dj; nor, is it all coming from one side of the argument. Could we, perhaps, avoid that kind of comment toward other posters? It sure doesn't help promote the posting of relevant comments. Just a thought ...

"ONOZZ! EBOLA! WE'Z GUNNA DIE!"

Four pages of it, which was as far back as I could stomach.

Come on. We give Mr. Trump a pass for less.

[mmhmm]

Jul 19, 2016 19:52:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 19, 2016 19:12:36 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I see quite a bit of "bleating" going on in that thread and it isn't all coming from  dj; nor, is it all coming from one side of the argument. Could we, perhaps, avoid that kind of comment toward other posters? It sure doesn't help promote the posting of relevant comments. Just a thought ...

"ONOZZ! EBOLA! WE'Z GUNNA DIE!"

Four pages of it, which was as far back as I could stomach.

Come on. We give Mr. Trump a pass for less.

Just thought I'd ask. For the life of me, I simply can't figure out what's gained by sarcastic, personal remarks singling out other posters. As I said, there was plenty of bleating and it wasn't  all coming from the same place.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 19, 2016 20:12:46 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jul 19, 2016 19:52:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

"ONOZZ! EBOLA! WE'Z GUNNA DIE!"

Four pages of it, which was as far back as I could stomach.

Come on. We give Mr. Trump a pass for less.

Just thought I'd ask. For the life of me, I simply can't figure out what's gained by sarcastic, personal remarks singling out other posters. As I said, there was plenty of bleating and it wasn't  all coming from the same place.

That's funny, because to me it seemed as though it was all coming from the same place.

Anyway, us being the sensitive beings we are, liable to take offense when others don't take our arguments seriously, perhaps we could all benefit from more careful examination of our own behaviour--as you suggest.

[mmhmm]

Jul 19, 2016 20:23:11 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 19, 2016 20:12:46 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Just thought I'd ask. For the life of me, I simply can't figure out what's gained by sarcastic, personal remarks singling out other posters. As I said, there was plenty of bleating and it wasn't  all coming from the same place.

That's funny, because to me it seemed as though it was all coming from the same place.

Anyway, us being the sensitive beings we are, liable to take offense when others don't take our arguments seriously, perhaps we could all benefit from more careful examination of our own behaviour--as you suggest.

I can assure you I won't be going back to the thread to pick out and present the bleating I clearly read and you clearly missed. I don't think I need to explain my reasoning, do I?

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 19, 2016 20:30:28 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jul 19, 2016 20:23:11 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

That's funny, because to me it seemed as though it was all coming from the same place.

Anyway, us being the sensitive beings we are, liable to take offense when others don't take our arguments seriously, perhaps we could all benefit from more careful examination of our own behaviour--as you suggest.

I can assure you I won't be going back to the thread to pick out and present the bleating I clearly read and you clearly missed. I don't think I need to explain my reasoning, do I?

You don't like bleating. I can sympathize.

If we're going to turn this into a full-out debate, we should probably define "bleating".

I go by the strictest definition:

bleating (v.)  message board correspondence characterized by ALL CAPS, excessive repetition, short sentences terminated by exclamation points, and palpable contempt for an opposing viewpoint

ETA: Here's an example of me bleating: ymam.proboards.com/post/2229702/thread

I'm not proud of it, but it was for a good cause at least.

[billisonboard]

Jul 19, 2016 20:38:31 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 19, 2016 20:30:28 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I can assure you I won't be going back to the thread to pick out and present the bleating I clearly read and you clearly missed. I don't think I need to explain my reasoning, do I?

You don't like bleating. I can sympathize.

If we're going to turn this into a full-out debate, we should probably define "bleating".

I go by the strictest definition:

bleating (v.)  message board correspondence characterized by ALL CAPS, excessive repetition, short sentences terminated by exclamation points, and palpable contempt for an opposing viewpoint

Hey, I resemble that definition.

Should I apologize considering all the ebola terrorist attacks we have faced?