Breaking News! Nice France 80 dead

[djAdvocate]

Jul 14, 2016 18:18:11 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:14:29 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

do you mind me asking why?

I find you harmless and Greg with all his gun talk sounds so big and strong and tough... blocked you.  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  You big meanie!

ah yes.  there is that. 

[billisonboard]

Jul 14, 2016 18:06:35 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:04:30 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In all honesty, I have not claimed it was ISIS or any terrorist organization.
No one over there has stated that.
Yet.

Probably the NRA or Tea Party.

Or an attempt by Hillary to knock Trump announcing his VP choice off the front page.

[Shooby]

Jul 14, 2016 18:11:31 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:08:34 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

What? You think a guy spilled his coffee and swerved?
Of course it was "terrorism"! We don't know yet the ethnicity or the religious affiliation of the perp, but it was surely terrorism.

i already stated what it COULD be.  is it PROBABLE that this is "radical islamic" terrorism?  sure.

is it KNOWN?  no.

Why?  Would it make you feel better if it was some blonde Swede?  I really don't see your point.

[gregintenn]

Jul 14, 2016 18:21:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:06:35 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Probably the NRA or Tea Party.

Or an attempt by Hillary to knock Trump announcing his VP choice off the front page.

[Value Buy]

Jul 14, 2016 18:21:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:06:35 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Probably the NRA or Tea Party.

Or an attempt by Hillary to knock Trump announcing his VP choice off the front page.

She accomplished it.Trump has cancelled the announcement tomorrow.

[Value Buy]

State Department has announced no Americans killed in the attack.
That was quick.
Happy about that, but a lot of people lost relatives tonight.

[MarleyKeezy78]

I watched some of the videos on InfoWars and they were so bad   It was a blood bath. 
What the hell is this world coming too 

[djAdvocate]

Jul 14, 2016 18:55:33 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:11:31 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i already stated what it COULD be.  is it PROBABLE that this is "radical islamic" terrorism?  sure.

is it KNOWN?  no.

Why?  Would it make you feel better if it was some blonde Swede? 

candidly?  YES.  the blonde Swede acted alone, and had no connections to international terrorism.  when they got him...it was pretty much "over".

my point is that it doesn't help to jump to the most terrifying conclusion with basically no information...... unless you like guessing or being terrified.

[jkapp]

Last I heard, death toll is around 80 people with even more injured.

Nationality of the perpetrator was reported to be Tunisian.

[Opti]

Jul 14, 2016 18:03:20 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jul 14, 2016 17:59:28 GMT -5 dondub said:

We just bomb killed 5 more 'over there', including a terrorist leader. Does that work for you or do you want them all to come here "before we do something about it"?

That's your response?
Let them have their Caliphate?
You think they will be happy with that?
Chamberlin thought the same thing about Hitler.
They tell us they are coming for us, but that's ok with you

Why are you shoving words and views down another poster's throat? Read, and please only post on what's said. Your mind reading is abysmal.

All he wrote is that we've bombed over there and is that OK or do you want to wait until they come here. Anything else you "see" or "feel" is from you not the poster.

TY.

[Value Buy]

The terrorist is a French/Tunisian, possibly a home grown idiot.

80 now dead.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/truck-attacker-kills-up-to-80-in-nice-bastille-day-crowd/ar-BBulpVJ?li=BBnb7Kz 

[Kolt!]

Jul 14, 2016 18:08:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:07:13 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

Up to 60 deaths now.

My girlfriend's in France.
But luckily she didn't go out tonight.

if she is not in Nice, she probably has little to worry about.

she's not. she's in paris. 

it was really scary earlier though. i was talking to her and sirens were in the background and they were going off for a very long time, and she was scared, she kept saying "they're not shutting the sirens off! what if an attack is happening here! we keep getting bomb threats all over the place" it had a lot of people afraid too because it was said it wasn't just one man there for awhile and the other man had been on the run with a gun. I think rumors were all over the place. but it was also eight hours from paris. 

but come to find out some mishaps with fireworks happened at the eiffel tower and started a fire so that was the sirens she was hearing. 

i'd say france is a scary place to be right now with all the threats and attacks but ... honestly..the united states isn't much better with attacks and threats...

but eighty people dead... eighty. it's just outrageous. 

[Deleted]

Up to 84

I'm so disgusted with humanity anymore. 

[Virgil Showlion]

Some kind of attack at the base of the Eiffel Tower as well. A fire is burning there.

[Value Buy]

Virgil, unless there was a massive cover up by the French government, you might want to delete that.
Supposedly a truck loaded with fireworks........
Why after displays are over with, we have a truck loaded with fireworks, is driving around the tower, is the question.

[Value Buy]

I was afraid the State Department announced no Americans deaths way too early.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/reports-texas-father-son-among-victims-in-france-truck-attack/ar-BBulR94?li=BBnb7Kz

[Opti]

It will be interesting to see if there is a late leaning terrorist connection by the dead driver. From my reading it appears he was distressed about his marriage and took it out on the French people.  

One link I've been reading-

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/nice-terror-attack-driver-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

According to L'Express newspaper, the first victim to die was a Muslim mother of seven who wore a veil.

Note that a guy on a motorcycle tried to stop the attack but failed. I hope heaven treats him well for his bravery.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 15, 2016 6:58:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Virgil, unless there was a massive cover up by the French government, you might want to delete that.
Supposedly a truck loaded with fireworks........
Why after displays are over with, we have a truck loaded with fireworks, is driving around the tower, is the question.

That was the cause of the fire?

I was a big fire, causing a huge plume of smoke. RT has video footage of it. It definitely wasn't something that was supposed to be there, although I suppose it might just be a random fire.

Video of the aftermath of the attack (very graphic, but drives the point home):

bit.ly/29J5jPi

[Deleted]

Last I saw,  the death count was up to 84 with two US citizens included. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

 How can some of you make fun of the death of 80 innocent people? 

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 15, 2016 13:35:36 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

 How can some of you make fun of the death of 80 innocent people? 

[Deleted]

Jul 15, 2016 11:14:19 GMT -5 Opti said:

It will be interesting to see if there is a late leaning terrorist connection by the dead driver. From my reading it appears he was distressed about his marriage and took it out on the French people.  

One link I've been reading-

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/nice-terror-attack-driver-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

According to L'Express newspaper, the first victim to die was a Muslim mother of seven who wore a veil.

Note that a guy on a motorcycle tried to stop the attack but failed. I hope heaven treats him well for his bravery.

I would of simply tried to shoot him from a standoff distance, but I don't go into gun free zones.  Too dangerous.  There is also the chance I might of killed someone with the crossfire.  I guess I'm not brave enough to be in that situation.  I can feel their pain, but will leave the French to their own safety decisions. 

[Deleted]

Jul 15, 2016 13:35:36 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

 How can some of you make fun of the death of 80 innocent people? 

Who's making fun ?

[Spellbound454]

Definitely Terrorism

He hired a truck.....Got through a roadblock because he said he was delivering ice cream.
Then swerved left-to-right along the promenade, for a mile....to mow down as many people as he could...including children.
Cab contained weapons.

Murdering Pig.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Jul 14, 2016 18:21:01 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 14, 2016 18:06:35 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Probably the NRA or Tea Party.

Or an attempt by Hillary to knock Trump announcing his VP choice off the front page.

[Spellbound454]

I would of simply tried to shoot him from a standoff distance, but I don't go into gun free zones.

He was shot dead.

Its difficult to stop this kind of lone wolf attack.
ISIS are losing and they have instructed their admirers to kill as many westerners as they can.

[Virgil Showlion]

Jul 15, 2016 13:45:50 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Jul 15, 2016 11:14:19 GMT -5 Opti said:

It will be interesting to see if there is a late leaning terrorist connection by the dead driver. From my reading it appears he was distressed about his marriage and took it out on the French people.  

One link I've been reading-

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/nice-terror-attack-driver-who-killed-84-on-french-riviera-was-cr/

According to L'Express newspaper, the first victim to die was a Muslim mother of seven who wore a veil.

Note that a guy on a motorcycle tried to stop the attack but failed. I hope heaven treats him well for his bravery.

I would of simply tried to shoot him from a standoff distance, but I don't go into gun free zones.  Too dangerous.  There is also the chance I might of killed someone with the crossfire.  I guess I'm not brave enough to be in that situation.  I can feel their pain, but will leave the French to their own safety decisions. 

A gun isn't going to save anyone from a maniac in a semi truck.

It's a million-to-one odds you'd actually hit the guy. My guess is that somebody standing at ground level couldn't see anything more than the top of his head, let alone score a lethal shot as he speeds by through stampeding people.

People have to accept the fact that an attack of this nature isn't preventable. With gun-based massacres, people can at least cling to the hope that if the guns are outlawed, the attacks will stop, but we don't have that luxury here. This guy wasn't on any terror watch list. He rented what is normally a perfectly harmless tool: a truck. He killed 84 people and injured hundreds more, and there isn't a bloody thing anybody could have done to stop him.

[Opti]

Jul 15, 2016 14:02:43 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Latest news I heard on him is that he may not be a "terrorist" at all. Just a depressed and suicidal jerk who may have wanted to go out in a blaze of "glory".

But, who knows?  It takes time after these horrific events to get the true story, or the full story.

This is what I am leaning to believing unless other evidence comes to light. Some men are unreasoning aholes when their feelings are deeply hurt. They will kill their entire family and are quite well known for murdering women they said they used to love.

  This is obviously the worst case I have ever heard about, but I think its revealing that a Muslim woman in a veil was the first one killed. I read the Wiki page on Tunisia. It is predominately Muslim. Its very common with men who make their anger manifest as violence on others, to use people as doppelgangers for the ones they are angry at.

[gregintenn]

Jul 15, 2016 13:57:18 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Jul 15, 2016 13:45:50 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I would of simply tried to shoot him from a standoff distance, but I don't go into gun free zones.  Too dangerous.  There is also the chance I might of killed someone with the crossfire.  I guess I'm not brave enough to be in that situation.  I can feel their pain, but will leave the French to their own safety decisions. 

A gun isn't going to save anyone from a maniac in a semi truck.

It's a million-to-one odds you'd actually hit the guy. My guess is that somebody standing at ground level couldn't see anything more than the top of his head, let alone score a lethal shot as he speeds by through stampeding people.

People have to accept the fact that an attack of this nature isn't preventable. With gun-based massacres, people can at least cling to the hope that if the guns are outlawed, the attacks will stop, but we don't have that luxury here. This guy wasn't on any terror watch list. He rented what is normally a perfectly harmless tool: a truck. He killed 84 people and injured hundreds more, and there isn't a bloody thing anybody could have done to stop him.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reports I heard stated the guy was SHOT and killed.

[dondub]

Not by anyone that he ran over.