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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 18:48:05 GMT -5
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kittensaver
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 13, 2016 8:39:48 GMT -5
A taller, curved neck faucet like this + a deep sink will work nicely for filling vessels of all sizes. No need for a separate pot filler unless your kitchen is huge and the stove far away from the sink (or you want to spend extra $$ to impress people with your 'designer' look)
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 13, 2016 9:01:15 GMT -5
we've talked about this.
I've been telling DW the same thing (not on the pot filler, but in general) that we should just pick finishes, etc that we love, even if others would hate them, because when we sell in 15-20 years, we'll want to do a cosmetic upgrade (cabinets, floors, fixtures, colors) anyway, so we should go ahead and have fun!
Frankly, even windows to some extent fall into this, I jus tdon't want to do moving walls, or systems.
I actually think we'll like having a small sink on the island, next to the stove. DW really does like to cook big meals from scratch.
i'm intimidated by this whole project, but ultimately think it'll be great.
The bolded part above is what I take away from this. I'm an almost-daily from-scratch cook too; all the more reason to plan a kitchen carefully. My pet peeve about contemporary design is that frankly a lot of it is for looks only - people who never do any more than make coffee and bring in take-out have these over-the-top kitchens to show off or KUWTJ or god-knows-what as their motivation. Yes a kitchen can (and should) be beautiful (when it sits in the middle of a home) - but it also needs to work hard and efficiently for the persons who are using it 2-3x per day. If all her prep work is on the island of course a small second sink makes perfect sense there. If she bakes a lot a pastry station makes perfect sense. Appliance closets and second dishwashers make perfect sense (and on and on . .) She needs a layout that is efficient, with tools and features that work for her instead of just sitting there and looking pretty but being useless. Good luck whatever you decide and please post photos when you're done!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 10:35:29 GMT -5
My pet peeve about contemporary design is that frankly a lot of it is for looks only - people who never do any more than make coffee and bring in take-out have these over-the-top kitchens to show off or KUWTJ or god-knows-what as their motivation. Two favorite stories about KUWTJ kitchens: first, a friend who's the Executive Director of a nonprofit attended a benefit held at the splendiferous home of one of their major benefactors. She was admiring the beautifully-appointed kitchen and the wife said, "we don't actually use it for cooking; we mostly eat out". DH and I went to a dinner at the house of one of our church members in a gated community on a golf course. They had the typical open-concept kitchen, granite countertops, island, yadda, yadda. A woman who'd been hired to serve the dinner kept disappearing into a room off the kitchen. I asked what that was- it was the "catering kitchen". So, you have your "show kitchen" where your guests gather to drink wine and enjoy hors d'oeuvres, and you've got your catering kitchen, where the work actually gets done. Too rich for our blood. Sadly, you do need to do some KUWTJ if you want the house to hold its value in your neighborhood. If everyone else has hardwood floors and quartz countertops and yours has plastic floor tiles and cheap counter surfaces, your house will be at a disadvantage. DH and I try to find balance by doing the updates/upgrades that make US happy and make it a better place for us to cook and eat.
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Post by debthaven on Jul 14, 2016 2:17:37 GMT -5
Last night we were invited to new friends who had a wooden eco-friendly house built last year. I saw something fantastic in their kitchen ... a wall dishwasher! The dishwasher is at waist height, over a cabinet (like a wall oven) so that they don't have to lean over to load / unload it. Makes a lot of sense!
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jul 14, 2016 7:00:07 GMT -5
OMG! I want one of those! How did they run the water to it?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 14, 2016 8:52:24 GMT -5
Last night we were invited to new friends who had a wooden eco-friendly house built last year. I saw something fantastic in their kitchen ... a wall dishwasher! The dishwasher is at waist height, over a cabinet (like a wall oven) so that they don't have to lean over to load / unload it. Makes a lot of sense! Mom put something like that in her last house, it had a drawer under it. Sort of like the boxes for the washers and dryers you see for front loaders. She built those under her W/D too. It was only a couple of feet higher & beside the sink like normal so I don't see how getting water to it was much more difficult than a regular one.
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Post by debthaven on Jul 14, 2016 10:29:04 GMT -5
Anne, I'm sure it's not a problem ... they run the water to our sinks and they're not on the floor lol.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jul 14, 2016 10:57:28 GMT -5
Did the door open top to bottom or swing to one side? My arms are short (well, I'm only 5'1"), so reaching into an oven, a dishwasher, the trunk of an old station wagon, etc. over an open door is still a stretch (I'm punny, LOL!). I wish more appliances came at waist height and with swing away doors.
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Post by debthaven on Jul 14, 2016 11:18:38 GMT -5
GRG, it opened top to bottom but our friend loaded it from the side, not from in front of it.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 14, 2016 11:33:14 GMT -5
GRG, it opened top to bottom but our friend loaded it from the side, not from in front of it. Same with Mom's. I've never loaded or unloaded a dishwasher from the front. GRG, I use my shortness as an excuse to never clean the oven.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 14, 2016 12:38:41 GMT -5
I've seen dishwashers that are built as drawers - you pull them out and push them in. They can be mounted at any height. They are made in different sizes, so you can have any combination you want: only one, two large ones, a large and a small, etc.
They were originally designed by an engineer in Israel whose customers wanted to keep their kosher and non-kosher dishes separated. But I can see how a small dishwasher drawer could be great for a single person or a couple: you save lots of water (and aggravation) by washing the few dishes that you use in a small drawer rather than waiting a day or two (or three, or four) for enough dishes to pile up for a full load (for folks who care about water conservation and the size of their water bill) .
ETA: you can Google "drawer dishwashers" and click on "images." I suck at posting pictures
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 14, 2016 16:03:32 GMT -5
GRG, it opened top to bottom but our friend loaded it from the side, not from in front of it. Same with Mom's. I've never loaded or unloaded a dishwasher from the front. GRG, I use my shortness as an excuse to never clean the oven. Or to ever clean off the top of the frig. Being short has it's advantages.
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Post by CCL on Jul 14, 2016 20:53:06 GMT -5
I used to have a faucet similar to that, but the sprayer thing drove me nuts. I hated pulling it in and out, so I replaced it.
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