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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 12, 2016 13:20:03 GMT -5
Glad you got the pantry sorted out. Good luck with the stove decision! I always want gas, but have been stuck with electric since I left my parents house. I have no input on the wall oven/range debate. I've never had a wall oven. I've been fine.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 12, 2016 13:21:26 GMT -5
So I stopped by the job site with my white out and marked my walk in pantry in the plans... Now. I picked a fridge and a dish washer but I cannot make this stove decision. The cook top and wall oven are just so much more than a regular stove... Glahherrr... I If you're going to have enough room to separate them - - do it. It's hard to be stooping and bending while juggling/managing the cooktop and oven at the same time (for holidays and big family dinners). If you cook a lot (like daily or several times a week), you will appreciate the oven at chest level rather than forever bending down to check the food and to get dishes and pans in and out of it.
JMHO YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 13:44:49 GMT -5
And now she asks, have you considered induction? ...
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Post by milee on Jul 12, 2016 13:54:00 GMT -5
And now she asks, have you considered induction? ... Yes. And if I'm still in a house that doesn't have gas as an option, I'm getting it. For stove top, I really like gas. For ovens, electric. But stove top electric is just awful... unless it's induction. So my next stove - again, if we're still in a place where gas isn't an option - will have an induction cook top. But you do have to be more thoughtful about the manufacturer with that. Induction is already a little bit of a PITA with what type of cookware you can use, some of the cooktops make that PITA even greater because they don't work if your pan isn't the correct size for the burner. And it's also harder to find smaller induction cooktops with more than one large burner, which I like to have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 13:55:42 GMT -5
We never considered induction. Giving up our cast-iron skillets would be a deal-breaker!
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Post by milee on Jul 12, 2016 13:58:29 GMT -5
We never considered induction. Giving up our cast-iron skillets would be a deal-breaker! Cast iron works well on induction. You'll need to find a new excuse.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 12, 2016 14:03:30 GMT -5
We never considered induction. Giving up our cast-iron skillets would be a deal-breaker! Cast iron works well on induction. You'll need to find a new excuse. I'm guessing it has to be flat bottomed cast iron though. Not all of mine is. Most of it was inherited from this or that relative, including one round griddle pan that has a lip that is an inch or two deep. It hangs over the edges of my burner, it won't sit flat on a flat top stove.
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Post by alabamagal on Jul 12, 2016 14:33:38 GMT -5
So I stopped by the job site with my white out and marked my walk in pantry in the plans... Now. I picked a fridge and a dish washer but I cannot make this stove decision. The cook top and wall oven are just so much more than a regular stove... Glahherrr... I I grew up with a wall oven. After a few apartments lived in a house for 28 years with a wall oven. Current house has wall oven and range with oven below, so 2 ovens. I hate the range oven. You have to lean down to put stuff in. When you open it the heat goes right into your face. For me, it is great as a 2nd oven that I hardly use. Wall ovens are usually smaller. You can skip the large fancy wall ovens and just get a small one that is good for most days, then a big one in the range.
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Post by yogiii on Jul 12, 2016 14:35:54 GMT -5
Da boys be cray-cray
I'd LOVE to have a walk-in pantry. There's a LOT you can store in there besides "just" food: cleaning supplies, small appliances, broom/mop, extra dishes/your wedding china, table linens, serving dishes, pet food, paper goods . . . .
yes, we're planning a butler's pantry across the dining room so we don't have to have a bunch of clutter.
protip- you may choose to move your OLD dishwasher to the butler's pantry and put the new one in the kitchen so you have a backup for big parties, with virtually no cost.
my friend did that and also reused his old kitchen sink in the butler pantry.
Back to pot filler, maybe just a small veggie washing sink on the island that happens to have a high neck would work better than a dedicated filler. plus, then you'd have a drain there for all the old pasta water!
I don't know, I think I should submit my pasta water to the basement sink idea to HGTV. This could be my ticket out ...
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jul 12, 2016 14:38:44 GMT -5
How much boiled food do you folks eat that you need specialized equipment??!! We eat pasta MAYBE every 10 days. We eat mashed potatoes MAYBE once per month in the winter. I don't boil meat. Ever. Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jul 12, 2016 14:43:51 GMT -5
I wish I had wall space for a full-size oven or two. If I ever re-arrange my first floor full bath and the cellar stair landing and fridge area, I will definitely put some in. But, beware. All wall ovens are not the same. One of our rentals last year had double KitchenAid wall ovens which sounds nice until you try to use them and discover that they are so small they don't even hold a full-size cookie sheet, never mind a turkey pan. I had to buy 2 smaller turkeys for Thanksgiving that year.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 12, 2016 14:55:05 GMT -5
A pot filler? Isn't that called a faucet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 15:00:14 GMT -5
Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff. Great point, which a lot of people forget when buying small appliances. The pasta maker, the bread maker, the salad spinner, the SodaStream (do they sell those anymore?). DH and I do make homemade broth from veggie odds and ends which we freeze. That's about once a week but we choose to live without a pot filler. Our big splurge in the kitchen was replacing the electric coils with the gas cooktop. Well worth it for us.
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Post by CCL on Jul 12, 2016 15:05:58 GMT -5
All the boys keep suggesting a walk in is a waste of space... They will only think a walk in pantry is a waste of space until they start looking for all the snacks and stuff you won't be able to store. Lol! I'm with you on that!
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 12, 2016 15:07:26 GMT -5
Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff. Great point, which a lot of people forget when buying small appliances. The pasta maker, the bread maker, the salad spinner, the SodaStream (do they sell those anymore?). DH and I do make homemade broth from veggie odds and ends which we freeze. That's about once a week but we choose to live without a pot filler. Our big splurge in the kitchen was replacing the electric coils with the gas cooktop. Well worth it for us. I agree 99% with the general wisdom about the futility of one-use small appliances - BUT - you can have my salad spinner when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands .
Because I grow my own vegetables (and have to wash them at home), I save a TON of water by cleaning almost everything in the salad spinner rather than a sink or bucket full of water (or worse, letting the water run endlessly while cleaning and scrubbing veggies). The outer bowl drastically reduces the water used and the perforated inner bowl acts like the drain by simply lifting it up from the outer bowl.
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Post by CCL on Jul 12, 2016 15:09:56 GMT -5
My sink? Yes it's undermount, stainless steel with granite counters.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 12, 2016 15:18:01 GMT -5
How much boiled food do you folks eat that you need specialized equipment??!! We eat pasta MAYBE every 10 days. We eat mashed potatoes MAYBE once per month in the winter. I don't boil meat. Ever. Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff. i agree with this generally, but if we resell, this will be expected to be in there, so you want to be careful of that. Someone expects their house to have a pot filler? oh Lawd Jesus, HGTV done ruined the world!
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 12, 2016 15:19:46 GMT -5
i agree with this generally, but if we resell, this will be expected to be in there, so you want to be careful of that. Someone expects their house to have a pot filler? oh Lawd Jesus, HGTV done ruined the world! I've seen so many HGTV houses that I won't want my house to look like "all the rest".
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jul 12, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -5
How much boiled food do you folks eat that you need specialized equipment??!! We eat pasta MAYBE every 10 days. We eat mashed potatoes MAYBE once per month in the winter. I don't boil meat. Ever. Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff. i agree with this generally, but if we resell, this will be expected to be in there, so you want to be careful of that. I can't imagine the lack of a pot filler would be a deal breaker, but, then again, it wasn't on my list in this wealthy rural suburb otherwise I wouldn't have bought this house, LOL!! Don't let a real estate broker make your house building decisions. Yes, consider resale, but balance it with what works for YOUR family. Because, really, boiled food isn't very healthy. ;-)
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 12, 2016 15:30:45 GMT -5
IMO for resale, you should make home look crisp and clean. Minimize the extra doo dads and fancy upgrades because not everyone wants all that. Ex. A pool.... To me that's extra work and I would not buy a house with one.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 12, 2016 15:49:55 GMT -5
I have a cabana boy who fills my pots.
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Post by milee on Jul 12, 2016 16:05:30 GMT -5
How much boiled food do you folks eat that you need specialized equipment??!! We eat pasta MAYBE every 10 days. We eat mashed potatoes MAYBE once per month in the winter. I don't boil meat. Ever. Give some thought to what you cook and how you cook it before you spend money on single-purpose stuff. i agree with this generally, but if we resell, this will be expected to be in there, so you want to be careful of that. Mmm. Not sure I agree. You are at a price point that unless you're going to sell the house within 5-10 years (and you've said that you plan to stay much longer than that), the next buyer will view whatever you put in now as dated and will be looking to re-do anyway. Highly unlikely that inclusion or or lack of a pot filler will even play into the discussion. More likely they'll be too busy dogging on whatever cabinet or counter choice you made which will be - in 5-10 years - considered dated to buyers in that price range. In other words, as long as the general layout isn't funky and you aren't doing anything too weird, don't sweat it because they're going to redo it. It just has to look presentable.
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Post by CCL on Jul 12, 2016 16:13:36 GMT -5
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jul 12, 2016 16:17:55 GMT -5
How did you get in my house??!! I know I locked the door before I left. Oh, never mind. My sink is off-white/cream (to match some tones in the granite) not stainless. But, that's my granite you stole to put your sink under!!!
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Post by CCL on Jul 12, 2016 16:19:34 GMT -5
Solid surface if I stay electric? I like mine. I've had it for approx 10 years. It is much easier for me to keep clean than the stoves with grates. Of course, I clean it every day, whether it needs it or not.
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Post by CCL on Jul 12, 2016 16:21:29 GMT -5
How did you get in my house??!! I know I locked the door before I left. Oh, never mind. My sink is off-white/cream (to match some times in the granite) not stainless. But, that's my granite you stole to put your sink under!!! Haha. My granite is actually more white/cream than this one. If I could master Photobucket, I could link to some of my before and after kitchen pics, but it may take me a while lol.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 12, 2016 16:40:52 GMT -5
A pot filler? Isn't that called a faucet? LOL! I have a goose neck type of faucet for high pots to be filled. It swings out of the way when I'm washing said pot. Just remember to swing it back before turning the water on. Unless you feel like wiping down your counters, cabinets, floor... Not that I ever did anything so stupid. A friend told me about it. Yeah, a friend of mine. Who's really stupid sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 16:47:35 GMT -5
A pot filler? Isn't that called a faucet? LOL! I have a goose neck type of faucet for high pots to be filled. It swings out of the way when I'm washing said pot. Just remember to swing it back before turning the water on. Unless you feel like wiping down your counters, cabinets, floor... Not that I ever did anything so stupid. A friend told me about it. Yeah, a friend of mine. Who's really stupid sometimes. I'd say it was me but I don't have that style of faucet. What I do have is a double sink and a pain in the ass husband who likes to center the faucet JUST SO over the divider so when you turn on the faucet it goes everywhere!!!!!!! Asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 17:00:26 GMT -5
Great point, which a lot of people forget when buying small appliances. The pasta maker, the bread maker, the salad spinner, the SodaStream (do they sell those anymore?). DH and I do make homemade broth from veggie odds and ends which we freeze. That's about once a week but we choose to live without a pot filler. Our big splurge in the kitchen was replacing the electric coils with the gas cooktop. Well worth it for us. I agree 99% with the general wisdom about the futility of one-use small appliances - BUT - you can have my salad spinner when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands .
Because I grow my own vegetables (and have to wash them at home), I save a TON of water by cleaning almost everything in the salad spinner rather than a sink or bucket full of water (or worse, letting the water run endlessly while cleaning and scrubbing veggies). The outer bowl drastically reduces the water used and the perforated inner bowl acts like the drain by simply lifting it up from the outer bowl.
I grow some and get more weekly from a farm share so the salad spinner is a must-have for me too. Saves an amazing amount of water, especially if you sort of stage the veggies so the last (cleanest) rinse of one type is the first (and will be the dirtiest!) of the next. I live in 1366 sq. ft. so I am very picky about what takes up space in my kitchen. I don't have a food processor for that reason. I have a regular blender and an immersion blender, smallish electric indoor grill, slow cooker, hand-held spiralizer, and a mandoline. No pasta maker, no bread maker, no Kitchen Aid because I don't bake My most favorite countertop space user is a Nespresso coffee & espresso maker that we use daily. No Starbucks here
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 12, 2016 18:15:33 GMT -5
Unless your kitchen is huge and there's a looooong distance from the sink to the stove (think an industrial or restaurant kitchen), a pot filler-type faucet embedded in a wall just seems to scream "HGTV designer wannabe" (sez me, YMMV). I've seen them in high-end homes where no one ever touches them .
A while back I attended a charity function at an upscale home here in La La Land, and when someone asked the hostess about her pot filler she confessed she had no idea if it actually worked or not, because she had never tried it!!! That's an awful lot of money running a water line over to a far wall just for the sake of showing off .
If you have a small or average sized home kitchen, the combination of a deep sink and a bridge faucet will allow you to fill even very large pots (and buckets).
I got this one for my kitchen and I love it This plus a 10" deep sink lets me fill large vessels and wrangle outsized canning equipment successfully.
www.build.com/brizo-62536lf-kitchen-faucet/s280251?uid=1608345
But as always - JMHO. YMMV.
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