The country has now come full circle

[Value Buy]

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

[Tennesseer]

Looks like the GOP convention should be interesting.

White nationalist group says it will be at Republican convention

WASHINGTON — A group of white nationalists and skinheads who held a rally in Sacramento, Calif., over the weekend where at least seven people were stabbed plans to show up at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland next month to “make sure that the Donald Trump supporters are defended.”

The violent clash at the California state Capitol accentuates concerns about the RNC, with political tensions high and thousands of pro- and anti-Trump protesters expected to descend on Cleveland.""

"I think everybody is concerned about the potential for violence at the convention,” said Ryan Lenz, senior writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremists and hate groups.

White nationalist group says it will be at Republican convention

[tallguy]

Jun 28, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

The head of the TWP said that two "comrades" were injured.  Given ten injured with multiple stab and laceration wounds, and others with scrapes and bruises that did not require hospitalization, you can probably infer that at least the other eight sent to the hospital were from the counter-protesting group.  The ones not hospitalized could be from either group.  And to be correct, it said that, "So far, nobody has been arrested."  There may still be some at some point.    

Disappointing that one group feels it appropriate to shut down another, and that both groups felt violence was appropriate.  And really guys, "Anti-facists" on your sign and in your tweet?  Hard to take you seriously.        

[Value Buy]

So, why were none of the anti free speech group arrested for disturbing the peace, or physically attacking a peaceful group?
Reminds me of the street peotesters decrying Trump at his rallies.
Attack his supporters as they leave rallies, and attack police and no arrests to speak of.
Democrats have now come full circle back to their heyday in the south of Jim Crow when Democrats ran rough shod over the poor and black.
Now it is the middle class and white they are running over.

[gregintenn]

Jun 29, 2016 8:20:55 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I know it. Those darned limosine liberals. I bet you have pictures of Nancy Pelosi bashing innocent Trump supporters over the head?

Certainly not! That's the sort of thing they hire out.

[sesfw]

Certainly not! That's the sort of thing they hire out.






Yeah ......... like the Trump rally in AZ

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2016 8:20:55 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I know it. Those darned limosine liberals. I bet you have pictures of Nancy Pelosi bashing innocent Trump supporters over the head?

Should I use the law of  natural selection on this thread?

[dondub]

Yes, then we wouldn't have anymore of your posts about nothing.

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2016 18:02:04 GMT -5 dondub said:

Yes, then we wouldn't have anymore of your posts about nothing.

Wow..................
No comment other than wow.........

[dondub]

Oh lighten up VB. I gave the . Try and find your sense of humor before sundown.

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2016 18:08:38 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oh lighten up VB. I gave the . Try and find your sense of humor before sundown.

Yes, even I sometime use a silly icon to make it look humourous, but it still does not accomplish the goal.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 28, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

Oh, those poor, racist Nazis! They're so hard done by.

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2016 18:30:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 28, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

Oh, those poor, racist Nazis! They're so hard done by.

That is not the point of the thread, is it?
I get it that the KKK and hate groups are wrong.
They do have rights of peaceful assembly in this country, as long as they are not breaking the law.
Who broke the law here?
Who came with the chip on their shoulder?
Who attacked them?
Who was arrested for breaking the law?
Who did not enforce the peace here?

[billisonboard]

Jun 29, 2016 18:34:14 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

...
Who was arrested for breaking the law?
Who did not enforce the peace here?

If in the long run no arrests take place, then I would be displeased. However, I am glad that apparently no law enforcement personnel were injured wading into the middle of this conflict.

[Kolt!]

Jun 29, 2016 18:30:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 28, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

Oh, those poor, racist Nazis! They're so hard done by.

I agree with you. Sorry not sorry.

Personally, can see why people would retaliate. They're out they're being "peaceful" but there words and what they want is not for peaceful matters. They're a white supremacy group that has and will continue to try to make the United States a White Supremacy.

They have also been involved in their own attacks verbally and physically. Just because this one time they were "peaceful" doesn't mean this group is always that way.

The fact that groups can even "peacefully" try to "make" america "white wash" is just disgusting. They're soul purpose is to do just that. They're movement is completely racist.

There's more sense for protesting for and against guns, for and against abortion, for and against even transgender bathrooms then there is for what these people do. They want a White world where White Straight people are in-charge and everyone else is below White Straight people. That is exactly what they're fighting for. I've visited the KKK's website and a few of the other websites where they're recruiting people and in their FAQ's this is words they even say. One mentioned segregating everyone and only allowing white christian people to be in the government positions.

But yes I'm well aware "freedom of speech" but this group is disgusting it's a wonder people are angry with them. I'm not condoning people attacking people but this group has attacked people too verbally and physically.

I guess as much as I don't condone violence... to me this is kind of like an eye for an eye. They go out trying to get rid of anyone that isn't straight and white. They have attacked others and honestly I don't feel bad it happened to them as they are racists, homophobes, and attack people as well.

I wouldn't really feel too bad for any of the hate groups as these groups have been at the forefront of a lot of attacks on people in the United States. And yes, that includes the one group that wants Black Supremacy. I wouldn't really feel bad for them either because they've been at the forefront of attacks too.

But yes I'd be upset if it was people that support gun rights that were attacked or even people against the transgender issues or transgenders in sports. These people protesting for these aren't always at the forefront of being involved in attacking someone or wanting to get rid of people just because they're against them being in a certain bathroom, or because they want guns... whereas these groups to me are nothing but gangs, and hate groups that act in their own violence.

If you're going to go out attacking people you can't except to not be attacked too.
If you're going to be in a gang and shoot someone you can't expect not to be shot at too.

And YES even if there was a LGBTQ group that went around attacking straight people and beating them up and then started going "Get rid of all the straights. LGBTQ AMERICA ONLY!" i'd not feel sorry for them either.

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2016 19:04:43 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

Jun 29, 2016 18:30:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Oh, those poor, racist Nazis! They're so hard done by.

I agree with you. Sorry not sorry.

Personally, can see why people would retaliate. They're out they're being "peaceful" but there words and what they want is not for peaceful matters. They're a white supremacy group that has and will continue to try to make the United States a White Supremacy.

They have also been involved in their own attacks verbally and physically. Just because this one time they were "peaceful" doesn't mean this group is always that way.

The fact that groups can even "peacefully" try to "make" america "white wash" is just disgusting. They're soul purpose is to do just that. They're movement is completely racist.

There's more sense for protesting for and against guns, for and against abortion, for and against even transgender bathrooms then there is for what these people do. They want a White world where White Straight people are in-charge and everyone else is below White Straight people. That is exactly what they're fighting for. I've visited the KKK's website and a few of the other websites where they're recruiting people and in their FAQ's this is words they even say. One mentioned segregating everyone and only allowing white christian people to be in the government positions.

But yes I'm well aware "freedom of speech" but this group is disgusting it's a wonder people are angry with them. I'm not condoning people attacking people but this group has attacked people too verbally and physically.

I guess as much as I don't condone violence... to me this is kind of like an eye for an eye. They go out trying to get rid of anyone that isn't straight and white. They have attacked others and honestly I don't feel bad it happened to them as they are racists, homophobes, and attack people as well.

I wouldn't really feel too bad for any of the hate groups as these groups have been at the forefront of a lot of attacks on people in the United States. And yes, that includes the one group that wants Black Supremacy. I wouldn't really feel bad for them either because they've been at the forefront of attacks too.

But yes I'd be upset if it was people that support gun rights that were attacked or even people against the transgender issues or transgenders in sports. These people protesting for these aren't always at the forefront of being involved in attacking someone or wanting to get rid of people just because they're against them being in a certain bathroom, or because they want guns... whereas these groups to me are nothing but gangs, and hate groups that act in their own violence.

If you're going to go out attacking people you can't except to not be attacked too.
If you're going to be in a gang and shoot someone you can't expect not to be shot at too.

And YES even if there was a LGBTQ group that went around attacking straight people and beating them up and then started going "Get rid of all the straights. LGBTQ AMERICA ONLY!" i'd not feel sorry for them either.

So as long as you agree with, or sort of agree with, civilians have to be protected, and their right's preserved and protected from bad people by the law of the land.
All others pound dirt.
Got it.
I do not think our Constitution can pick and choose who is and is not protected.
They were not in a "gang" as you claim. They were in a legitimate, legal demonstration allowed by the Government.
This is the second time you have referenced an eye for an eye. The other day it was about people mistreating and harming animals, whether they realized they were harming the animals.......and eye for an eye?
You have more in common with the far far right Baptists and radical Islamists than you realize...........
I would suggest you stop worrying about conservatives, and white males, and exam your own views.

[tallguy]

Jun 29, 2016 18:34:14 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 29, 2016 18:30:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Oh, those poor, racist Nazis! They're so hard done by.

That is not the point of the thread, is it?
I get it that the KKK and hate groups are wrong.
They do have rights of peaceful assembly in this country, as long as they are not breaking the law.
Who broke the law here?
Who came with the chip on their shoulder?
Who attacked them?
Who was arrested for breaking the law?
Who did not enforce the peace here?

1.  Either or both likely broke the law.  We can't really tell if one group was blameless.
2.  Likely both.  Protesters came to shut down the march.  Marchers came equipped with knives.
3.  Unclear from the story, though the one account implies it was the protesters being the aggressors.

[Value Buy]

Why are anti-protesters allowed to shutdown a legal gathering without consequences?
Because the legal gathering group's ideas are not considered being worthwhile?
I get it, but it is still denying the right of free assembly.

[Kolt!]

Why are the White Nationalists allowed to go around attacking people? And no arrests are made as well? And honestly, I don't see the White nationalists as good guys that need to be protected. I think other's need to be protected from them. It's funny how the crime against the White Nationalists is the one that you're deciding to have an uproar about, I've never seen you post about any of the crimes that the White Nationalists have committed. But of course you want to use this as a "Oh no! Whites aren't being protected now! Look at it switch! If it was another race there'd be an uproar" the reason why a lot of people don't care about the White Nationalists is because they've been at the center of a lot of hate crimes, and attacks, and yes even killings.  

There's actually over 100 murders linked to the White Nationalists webpages and that's just webpages who knows what they plan in their meetings. Of course people are angry to see these people assemble. They spew hate and they spew violence and as I've said they're at the forefront of a lot of crimes against people that aren't straight and white. There's been so many crimes that the White Nationalists have been behind yet go unpunished. 

Also, people are allowed to legally protest. They're allowed to assemble just as much as they were allowed to protest. It might make it more difficult to assemble having protesters but it's allowed. It's in their rights to protest them just as much as it was in their rights to assemble. It's not okay for violence but I'm sure both parties are at fault for the violence. They were protesting people protest down things all the time. It doesn't always mean it gets shut down. This turned into violence yes but in no way should they be in trouble for protesting and possibly being louder then the people assembling. 

It turned to violence but you can't take away someone's right to protest either. 

And yes people have free speech and free assembly but the White Nationalists have often spoke for wanting to harm people and enacting violence. In fact they've been at the forefront for shouting out things as "Kill the gays!" and technically, that isn't a right one is allowed to have. When it enacts shooting someone, harming someone, and being in support of such things that's actually where a person CAN get in trouble. 

"The First Amendment protects your right to express your opinion, even if it's unpopular. You may criticize the President, the Congress, or the chief of police without fear of retaliation. But this right doesn't extend to libel, slander, obscenity, "true threats," or speech that incites imminent violence or law-breaking. If you grab a megaphone during a riot and yell "shoot the cop" or "loot the shop," you may reasonably expect trouble." <-- yet how many times have White Nationalists done this? Quite often. How many times is it stopped or are they in 'trouble' for shouting these items...hardly ever. 

And to me they are a gang. Just because they weren't enacting violence this time they're still a gang in my eyes. Just because a group of gang members are hanging out and chillin doesn't mean they're not part of a gang. 

However. I will say that I do think some punishments should be handed out to the protesters because they did come into it with the intention of violence. They weren't simply protesting and shouting as they assembled then it turned violent. It was violent first before real protesting happened. There would have been nothing wrong if they'd been shouting and protesting and being louder then the white nationalists, they have the right to do that. What they didn't have the right to do was enact violence.

But as I've said the White Nationalists have been at the forefront of so many attacks and shouting for violence and they seem to go unpunished. 

And it's just funny to me how you want to defend the White Nationlists "rights" and make sure the people that attacked them go punished yet... I have yet to see you want them to go punished for all the crimes they've committed. 

Maybe, you're unaware of how many crimes they commit and that's why, not sure. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I remember some KKK marches near here where they got proper permission. Almost no one showed up. Protesters stayed away. Mostly police to insure safety. It was the best way to protest.....stay away and make them see they weren't wanted. 

[Kolt!]

Jun 30, 2016 12:33:44 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I remember some KKK marches near here where they got proper permission. Almost no one showed up. Protesters stayed away. Mostly police to insure safety. It was the best way to protest.....stay away and make them see they weren't wanted. 

That's actually really smart! 

I think people are just getting fed up. As I've said the White Nationalists have been at the forefront of a lot of murders and attacks to minority groups. 

I wish ignoring them was a way to silence them. But, unfortunately ignoring them doesn't make them stop attacking minority groups. 

If this was a group that wasn't known for attacking others I think ignoring them is a great thing to do. It's just people have been getting so angry at all the attacks that some just exploded. They want to continue to enact violence and then appear in public and not be attacked and some people have gotten angry. 

I guess it's a matter of if ignoring isn't working...what does one do to a group that continues to attack people? Let them continue to attack people and just consistently let it happen and they never get attacked back? As the Police aren't doing much either to stop them from doing so. 

[Kolt!]

I think in some ways this attack was a group of people that have been watching them attack their people for so long they attacked back. They finally had enough and were done being sitting ducks. This was there way of saying "You continue to attack our people, were done standing for it. Were attacking you now" 

Kind of like when people go to war. You attack the United States we often go to war with the country that did it. It seems to be a war against people in the United States which is why I compared it to a gang.

I honestly think the anti-fascists are a gang too in some ways as they did sit around enacting violence. I guess in my opinion any group of people that plan on attacking another group of people become a gang. It doesn't matter if they're doing it because they were attacked first. 

But it doesn't matter where you're at in a gang. You can be sitting at home peacefully with your family but because your part of that gang another gang will drive by and shoot you. 

[happyhoix]

Jun 30, 2016 7:05:13 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Why are anti-protesters allowed to shutdown a legal gathering without consequences?
Because the legal gathering group's ideas are not considered being worthwhile?
I get it, but it is still denying the right of free assembly.

I don't think the police 'allowed' the protesters to assault the legal group's event. They didn't try to hard to prevent it, probably. Two different things.

Cops are supposed to protect the public, that's true. And they generally do a good job of setting up barricades and keeping protestors and marchers apart, in most cases.

But I can see them not expending much energy to get between some skin head Aryan guy and the guy who wants to punch him.

I remember back a few years ago when the Westboro Baptist guys were protesting a military funeral and someone slashed the tires on their vehicles. Could the police have done a better job watching their cars while the church members were out marching around with their anti-gay signs? Yes. I would say the knowledge was there but the motivation to act on that knowledge was weak.

Police are humans, after all, and will work hard to rescue a child from a burning building, say, or chase down someone who just robbed an old lady. Not going to be too motivated to prevent an angry Aryan from having someone smack him. Not good, not right, not done in the true spirit of the constitution, but there it is.

[Value Buy]

Jun 30, 2016 12:47:46 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

I think in some ways this attack was a group of people that have been watching them attack their people for so long they attacked back. They finally had enough and were done being sitting ducks. This was there way of saying "You continue to attack our people, were done standing for it. Were attacking you now" 

Kind of like when people go to war. You attack the United States we often go to war with the country that did it. It seems to be a war against people in the United States which is why I compared it to a gang.

I honestly think the anti-fascists are a gang too in some ways as they did sit around enacting violence. I guess in my opinion any group of people that plan on attacking another group of people become a gang. It doesn't matter if they're doing it because they were attacked first. 

But it doesn't matter where you're at in a gang. You can be sitting at home peacefully with your family but because your part of that gang another gang will drive by and shoot you. 

Your first sentence.....
who is "attack their people" you mention?
Again, you are not welling to follow the Constitution for everyone.
Just the people you agree with.

[dondub]

Yes, even I sometime use a silly icon to make it look humourous, but it still does not accomplish the goal.

Use this one next time.

[Kolt!]

Jun 30, 2016 15:38:41 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 30, 2016 12:47:46 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

I think in some ways this attack was a group of people that have been watching them attack their people for so long they attacked back. They finally had enough and were done being sitting ducks. This was there way of saying "You continue to attack our people, were done standing for it. Were attacking you now" 

Kind of like when people go to war. You attack the United States we often go to war with the country that did it. It seems to be a war against people in the United States which is why I compared it to a gang.

I honestly think the anti-fascists are a gang too in some ways as they did sit around enacting violence. I guess in my opinion any group of people that plan on attacking another group of people become a gang. It doesn't matter if they're doing it because they were attacked first. 

But it doesn't matter where you're at in a gang. You can be sitting at home peacefully with your family but because your part of that gang another gang will drive by and shoot you. 

Your first sentence.....
who is "attack their people" you mention?
Again, you are not welling to follow the Constitution for everyone.
Just the people you agree with.

And you seem to only care about defending those you agree with and don't seem to care who the White Nationalist have attacked. 

The White Nationalists have attacked minority groups. They attack african americans, the lgbtq, and hispanics. Anti-Fascists are known to be anti-racist, for the LGBTQ, and have liberal views. 

In my opinion though they're just as bad as the White Nationalists. In some ways I do believe they're the type that want to completely get rid of the right wing. 

I don't agree with what they do or their violence against right wings. 

But when the White Nationalists attack "liberals" which is a lot of hispanics, lgbtq, and african americans (although it doesn't matter if these group members are from the right wing or not the White Nationalists will attack them.)...yes this group is going to attack back. When the White Nationalists are on a mission to make America White "Again" it's going to stir the pot and when they're attacking people, people that don't want to make America White "Again" and hate seeing people that are black, hispanic, or in the lgbtq attacked by these white nationalists they're going to fight back.  

And you again still fail to say the White Nationalists should be convicted of their crimes. You only want the people that attack them to be in trouble but could care less that they never get in trouble for their crimes. 

I think both groups should be punished. They're not going to be able to arrest anyone because they don't know which members did the stabbing. So do they punish the entire group? If they can punish the entire group then the White Nationalists deserve to be punished just as bad for their previous crimes. 

[Value Buy]

Jun 30, 2016 17:29:11 GMT -5 Kolt! said:

Jun 30, 2016 15:38:41 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Your first sentence.....
who is "attack their people" you mention?
Again, you are not welling to follow the Constitution for everyone.
Just the people you agree with.

And you seem to only care about defending those you agree with and don't seem to care who the White Nationalist have attacked. 

The White Nationalists have attacked minority groups. They attack african americans, the lgbtq, and hispanics. Anti-Fascists are known to be anti-racist, for the LGBTQ, and have liberal views. 

In my opinion though they're just as bad as the White Nationalists. In some ways I do believe they're the type that want to completely get rid of the right wing. 

I don't agree with what they do or their violence against right wings. 

But when the White Nationalists attack "liberals" which is a lot of hispanics, lgbtq, and african americans (although it doesn't matter if these group members are from the right wing or not the White Nationalists will attack them.)...yes this group is going to attack back. When the White Nationalists are on a mission to make America White "Again" it's going to stir the pot and when they're attacking people, people that don't want to make America White "Again" and hate seeing people that are black, hispanic, or in the lgbtq attacked by these white nationalists they're going to fight back.  

And you again still fail to say the White Nationalists should be convicted of their crimes. You only want the people that attack them to be in trouble but could care less that they never get in trouble for their crimes. 

I think both groups should be punished. They're not going to be able to arrest anyone because they don't know which members did the stabbing. So do they punish the entire group? If they can punish the entire group then the White Nationalists deserve to be punished just as bad for their previous crimes. 

I still fall back to our Constitutional rights.
Although I was not a protestor back in the sixties and seventies, and did not necessarily agree with some of the idealogy, I did understand the the rights of citizens to congregate and protest, and a lot of them did it illegally back then.
If we fail to allow our rights under the Constitution to be used, we have nothing.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 28, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

White Nationalists has a legitimate permit to assemble in California and were attacked by counter protesters, drawing blood from head wounds on some of the original group legally assembled.
Reporters said it was not clear who was injured, but two of the men were obviously white supremists based on their dress code


www.cnn.com/2016/06/26/us/brawl-at-california-rally/

Police did not arrest anyone for the disturbance.
Somehow if the attackers were from the original legally assembled group,  and the permitted group were people assembling to protest white Nationalists, I think there might have been a different outcome from the police, and there would have been thousands of protesters the next day demanding arrrests of the racists.
There was no such demand to arrest anyone today for violating law abiding citizens rights of freedom of Assembly.

Yes, we have come full circle from the fifties and sixties.
And the government still has it wrong. They allowed it then and they are allowing it to happen today.

i agree, and so does the ACLU, who has repeatedly defended these groups.