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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 14, 2016 19:57:12 GMT -5
What specific job skills are required to do your job? These can include "hard" skills like math, specific industry knowledge, science, regulations, or "soft" skills like ability to communicate well with others, be able to give presentations, dealing with the public.
How did you get these skills? And is a degree required for your job?
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 14, 2016 20:19:05 GMT -5
I'm in IT at an insurance company. My job requires industry knowledge, technical ability, training ability and a whole lot of patience.
ETA: I got the skills through being in the industry for so long and working in all facets of the insurance industry. I have IT experience, but not enough to say that I have an IT background. I'm learning the technology piece. And while I have a business degree, it's not a requirement.
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Post by alabamagal on Jun 14, 2016 20:57:24 GMT -5
I am an engineer working in the pharmaceutical industry. I have a degree in chemical engineering.
Most of what I do uses knowledge from 22 years in pharmaceuticals (7 years in other industries). I use a lot of general principles that I learned in school, but not a lot of details. I would have a hard time doing the type of problem solving I learned in college.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jun 14, 2016 21:04:47 GMT -5
My job requires at minimum a bachelor's degree and a professional license. I have a master's degree and have more than made up the cost for that due to higher pay.
I need to know how human beings learn, be able to help them learn, and be patient enough to tolerate and proactively manage their antics while they're avoiding learning. I also have specific content knowledge to be able to have them learn the content they come to me for.
I have to have what are commonly referred to as Microsoft Office skills, Google office apps skills, database management, email use, etc. I must be organized to manage information for 120-200 individuals. That information generally comes in the form of 25 assessments per 2 week period per person.
I must be able to plan cohesive projects that span 178 days and align to the content I'm supposed to teach. I have to then be able to implement those projects and accurately assess them. The organizational skills necessary to be successful at this are not for the faint of heart.
I must be able to communicate with people who believe I'm an idiot, believe I only do my job for the mass amounts of money I'm paid, believe I'm a liar and their child is an angel, who don't believe that education is valuable. When I am not proactive with communication (meaning I don't have updates for parents within 24 hours of 150 assessments being completed), I am generally told I am not doing my job.
Hmmm...what else...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 14, 2016 21:44:21 GMT -5
I need at least a bachelor's but the field is so glutted they are wanting master's degrees because the assumption is if you have a master's that means you can do technical work AND write. One of my former bosses said he finds that a load of bull, he knows a ton of people with graduate degrees that can't write their way out of a paper bag.
I have to have a pretty strong theoretical background in chemistry and biology. Which one I need the most depends on what job I am doing. My last job I had to really dig deep for my organic chem knowledge. With this job I am back to using more of my genetics background. I need to take immunology which I have zero experience in so I can better understand what it is I am doing for a living now.
What lab skills I need also depends on the job. My HPLC skills are starting to slide since I am no longer required to use them every day. I've had to learn to become adept at flow cytometry very quickly. My dissection skills are slowly coming back as I am required to do more and more for histology.
While I know a lot of people who get by without it I find that having a strong background in the required regulations is helpful. I am a walking Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee manual. That helps me do my job better because I am less likely to screw up and piss off the people I need to work with me. The lab I am in right now has had several run ins with CM so it would not take a lot to push things over the edge. Knowing the manual helps keep me in line and I can also keep other people in line.
Same with biosafety. If I ever catch the person leaving used razor blades lying around I am going to cut that person with it. That is a HUGE no no. All of us should know that because it's part of our yearly lab safety training. As the lab manager sometimes it's my job to remind people of those rules.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:54:45 GMT -5
My job requires at minimum a bachelor's degree and a professional license. I have a master's degree and have more than made up the cost for that due to higher pay.
I need to know how human beings learn, be able to help them learn, and be patient enough to tolerate and proactively manage their antics while they're avoiding learning. I also have specific content knowledge to be able to have them learn the content they come to me for.
I have to have what are commonly referred to as Microsoft Office skills, Google office apps skills, database management, email use, etc. I must be organized to manage information for 120-200 individuals. That information generally comes in the form of 25 assessments per 2 week period per person.
I must be able to plan cohesive projects that span 178 days and align to the content I'm supposed to teach. I have to then be able to implement those projects and accurately assess them. The organizational skills necessary to be successful at this are not for the faint of heart.
I must be able to communicate with people who believe I'm an idiot, believe I only do my job for the mass amounts of money I'm paid, believe I'm a liar and their child is an angel, who don't believe that education is valuable. When I am not proactive with communication (meaning I don't have updates for parents within 24 hours of 150 assessments being completed), I am generally told I am not doing my job.
Hmmm...what else... What Chloe said. I also must be able to differentiate so that special education students, kids in the middle, and those who opted out of AP because they passed the test last year (sigh) are all challenged. I try my best. A unique qualification of my present teaching assignment (Dual Enrollment) is that I must have 18 hours of graduate level English courses. I think I have 60. But I was startled to discover that very few of us out of maybe 30 teachers (or more) have those qualification. I am thinking maybe 3. Most of our teachers have a master's degree, but that is an education degree. That doesn't necessarily give you the content hours. We can't find additional teachers for Dual Enrollment, in other words. That is odd to me, but my own alma mater is contributing to the problem. You can no longer graduate from there with a teaching certificate in English with just a bachelor's. You get the English degree and then have to do the fifth year program for the teaching certificate. That is just wrong to me. I did both with two 30-hour teaching fields. I had very few electives, but that was my choice.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 15, 2016 8:24:14 GMT -5
I'm in IT at an insurance company. My job requires industry knowledge, technical ability, training ability and a whole lot of patience. ETA: I got the skills through being in the industry for so long and working in all facets of the insurance industry. I have IT experience, but not enough to say that I have an IT background. I'm learning the technology piece. And while I have a business degree, it's not a requirement. How'd you get the patience?
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 15, 2016 8:34:22 GMT -5
I'm a health physicist for the navy, specifically a radiation safety/compliance inspector.
Seems like all the people they've hired over the last 8 years or so have a college degree. We have a few old timers who don't have a degree, but went through the naval nuclear propulsion program and have extensive experience.
Job skills that are needed is extensive knowledge of radiation laws and regulation, knowledge of physics and radiation, and a little biology, the ability to operate independently out of the office with no supervision, and the ability to explain technical stuff to non technical audience,
I got some of the basics in college, but most of it was through self study experience in the field.
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Post by spartan7886 on Jun 15, 2016 8:57:01 GMT -5
I am a completion engineer, which is a subset of petroleum engineering that deals with the equipment installed in a well to control the flow of oil or gas. I use engineering math for basic calculations I need and to sanity check the results of my modeling. I need materials science training in both metallics and nonmetallics to ensure I pick the right materials for the particular well environment. I need to know the regulatory requirements for the well location, the industry recommended practices, and my corporate standards to build a safe and functional well. I need to be good at problem solving since I'm dealing with real-time operations, and good spatial thinking is a huge plus too. I need to be good at technical writing in my procedures for the field, my design justification documents, and when called upon to write or update corporate standards. I need to be good at communicating with my field people (no degree, practically focused), my drilling engineer (engineer, practically focused, but different KPIs), and my asset team (degreed, usually more theoretical, less practical, different KPIs). Because I work the middle stage of the well, I deal with more different internal teams than any other position.
In general, a bachelors degree in engineering is required for my job. It does not have to be petroleum - mine's mechanical. I do know a few people who have started in my position after 10-15 years in the field doing the work we plan. Most of them have bachelors degrees of some sort, and all have completed the same internal training as the engineers, which is quite rigorous and takes several years.
I got my math/engineering skills in school and furthered them in specific areas with training at work. The regulatory knowledge came from training and just sitting down and reading the documents. Problem solving started in school and deepened in relevant areas through field-based internships during college, experience, and listening to war stories from older engineers. Technical writing primarily was aided by my mother's editing services growing up and other communication through experience and being a generally respectful person, although I have taken a few soft skills classes through the years as well.
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Post by cyanne on Jun 15, 2016 9:20:46 GMT -5
My job requires at minimum a bachelor's degree and a professional license. I have a master's degree and have more than made up the cost for that due to higher pay.
I need to know how human beings learn, be able to help them learn, and be patient enough to tolerate and proactively manage their antics while they're avoiding learning. I also have specific content knowledge to be able to have them learn the content they come to me for.
I have to have what are commonly referred to as Microsoft Office skills, Google office apps skills, database management, email use, etc. I must be organized to manage information for 120-200 individuals. That information generally comes in the form of 25 assessments per 2 week period per person.
I must be able to plan cohesive projects that span 178 days and align to the content I'm supposed to teach. I have to then be able to implement those projects and accurately assess them. The organizational skills necessary to be successful at this are not for the faint of heart.
I must be able to communicate with people who believe I'm an idiot, believe I only do my job for the mass amounts of money I'm paid, believe I'm a liar and their child is an angel, who don't believe that education is valuable. When I am not proactive with communication (meaning I don't have updates for parents within 24 hours of 150 assessments being completed), I am generally told I am not doing my job.
Hmmm...what else... I am a special education teacher. In addition to what was said above, I am responsible for modifying assignments and assessments for students who have Individual Education Plans. I case manage 17-20 students. I am responsible for making sure these students are working towards their goals, measuring their progress on these goals and reporting it. I meet with these student every week. I evaluate and test students to see if they qualify for special education services. Every three years I re-evaluate these students to see if they continue to qualify for service. I am responsible for setting up the IEP meetings and making sure that all due process is followed to prevent non compliance with state and federal regulations as well as potential lawsuits. I work internally with the nurse, speech therapist, occupational therapist, visual imparment teachers, general education teachers, parents and administration to create IEP goals. I also work in conjunction with outside agencies such as county social workers and therapists (when consent is given by parents) to monitor student progress. I team teach three different subjects and I am in the classroom four hours every day. I attend 2-7 meetings a week either before or after school hours. Contrary to what some community members think I am not paid more than a classroom teacher, and I am not sitting at a desk all day. I am mostly with students in a classroom. There is more but this a quick overview...
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Post by flamingo on Jun 15, 2016 10:00:30 GMT -5
I work in higher ed, specifically with graduate students. A bachelor's degree is require, though a master's is highly preferred. I have a JD. I would have no credibility in counseling grad students if I hadn't already been through a program myself. Plus I manage a staff of 4-6 people, so I need the degree to give me credibility with them. I'm part of senior management in my division, so again, degree lends credibility.
I need computer skills, data analysis skills, management skills to do my job well. Most of this I learned while I on the job from supervisors and other colleagues. But having the critical thinking skills law school taught me has helped. And, I need to know about laws that apply to higher ed like FERPA, so it helps that I studied it and can teach my staff exactly what it means.
But, I sit at a desk most days handling administrative tasks. So while my education helped me get my job, I'm not actively using it. I use my other learned on the job skills much more.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 15, 2016 10:19:58 GMT -5
I'm in IT at an insurance company. My job requires industry knowledge, technical ability, training ability and a whole lot of patience. ETA: I got the skills through being in the industry for so long and working in all facets of the insurance industry. I have IT experience, but not enough to say that I have an IT background. I'm learning the technology piece. And while I have a business degree, it's not a requirement. How'd you get the patience? I drink a lot.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 15, 2016 13:03:32 GMT -5
I am a completion engineer, which is a subset of petroleum engineering that deals with the equipment installed in a well to control the flow of oil or gas. I use engineering math for basic calculations I need and to sanity check the results of my modeling. I need materials science training in both metallics and nonmetallics to ensure I pick the right materials for the particular well environment. I need to know the regulatory requirements for the well location, the industry recommended practices, and my corporate standards to build a safe and functional well. I need to be good at problem solving since I'm dealing with real-time operations, and good spatial thinking is a huge plus too. I need to be good at technical writing in my procedures for the field, my design justification documents, and when called upon to write or update corporate standards. I need to be good at communicating with my field people (no degree, practically focused), my drilling engineer (engineer, practically focused, but different KPIs), and my asset team (degreed, usually more theoretical, less practical, different KPIs). Because I work the middle stage of the well, I deal with more different internal teams than any other position. In general, a bachelors degree in engineering is required for my job. It does not have to be petroleum - mine's mechanical. I do know a few people who have started in my position after 10-15 years in the field doing the work we plan. Most of them have bachelors degrees of some sort, and all have completed the same internal training as the engineers, which is quite rigorous and takes several years. I got my math/engineering skills in school and furthered them in specific areas with training at work. The regulatory knowledge came from training and just sitting down and reading the documents. Problem solving started in school and deepened in relevant areas through field-based internships during college, experience, and listening to war stories from older engineers. Technical writing primarily was aided by my mother's editing services growing up and other communication through experience and being a generally respectful person, although I have taken a few soft skills classes through the years as well. You must make good money. Petroleum engenineers make more than all other engineering disciplines, last I checked. Your post reminded me, I also have to write a lot of technical, regulatory letters. I picked up that skill from my English teachers and practice.
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Post by movingforward on Jun 15, 2016 13:16:39 GMT -5
BA required (I have a masters which I believe helped me over those with just a BA)
Skills needed:
Presentation skills (mainly acquired from my masters degree and on the job experience) Contract negotiation skills Ability to communicate well with others Strategic management Financial management/budget analysis Ability to herd cats (LOL! not really, but it feels that way sometimes)
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jun 15, 2016 13:27:47 GMT -5
I need to know accounting. But more importantly I need to know how to tell our accounting software to do the accounting.
I learned the basics in school by getting an accounting degree but I consider most of knowledge learned on the job. mostly troubleshooting, developing concepts and procedures and getting people to follow them,etc.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 15, 2016 14:00:19 GMT -5
I am a completion engineer, which is a subset of petroleum engineering that deals with the equipment installed in a well to control the flow of oil or gas. I use engineering math for basic calculations I need and to sanity check the results of my modeling. I need materials science training in both metallics and nonmetallics to ensure I pick the right materials for the particular well environment. I need to know the regulatory requirements for the well location, the industry recommended practices, and my corporate standards to build a safe and functional well. I need to be good at problem solving since I'm dealing with real-time operations, and good spatial thinking is a huge plus too. I need to be good at technical writing in my procedures for the field, my design justification documents, and when called upon to write or update corporate standards. I need to be good at communicating with my field people (no degree, practically focused), my drilling engineer (engineer, practically focused, but different KPIs), and my asset team (degreed, usually more theoretical, less practical, different KPIs). Because I work the middle stage of the well, I deal with more different internal teams than any other position. In general, a bachelors degree in engineering is required for my job. It does not have to be petroleum - mine's mechanical. I do know a few people who have started in my position after 10-15 years in the field doing the work we plan. Most of them have bachelors degrees of some sort, and all have completed the same internal training as the engineers, which is quite rigorous and takes several years. I got my math/engineering skills in school and furthered them in specific areas with training at work. The regulatory knowledge came from training and just sitting down and reading the documents. Problem solving started in school and deepened in relevant areas through field-based internships during college, experience, and listening to war stories from older engineers. Technical writing primarily was aided by my mother's editing services growing up and other communication through experience and being a generally respectful person, although I have taken a few soft skills classes through the years as well. You must make good money. Petroleum engenineers make more than all other engineering disciplines, last I checked. Your post reminded me, I also have to write a lot of technical, regulatory letters. I picked up that skill from my English teachers and practice. The downside is that petroleum engineers are at the mercy of gas prices. When prices are low or start dropping, there is less use. When they are high, the spread is better and there is more money put into structure. You also have to be willing to travel where ever is necessary to remain employed. During low gas prices, TD took assignments in both Saudi and Indonesia in an effort to remain employed. TD's brother works in the well side (TD's more in process, and his degree is in chemical engineering) too and it's really ugly for him in Alberta right now.
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Post by spartan7886 on Jun 15, 2016 16:01:16 GMT -5
The downside is that petroleum engineers are at the mercy of gas prices. When prices are low or start dropping, there is less use. When they are high, the spread is better and there is more money put into structure. You also have to be willing to travel where ever is necessary to remain employed. During low gas prices, TD took assignments in both Saudi and Indonesia in an effort to remain employed. TD's brother works in the well side (TD's more in process, and his degree is in chemical engineering) too and it's really ugly for him in Alberta right now. What I'm seeing right now is that the expats are actually in the worst position. In general, though, yes it is a very boom and bust industry. In the last year, the major I work for has cut staffing in my discipline like 30% or more. This is the second big layoff I've seen in my eight year career - and I got a retention bonus in between. Phoenix84 the uncertainty does come with a substantial paycheck, though. You are correct. I think starting pay is six figures these days.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 16, 2016 10:03:46 GMT -5
I think special education teachers need to get paid a lot more than they do.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jun 16, 2016 14:21:28 GMT -5
I need at least a bachelor's but the field is so glutted they are wanting master's degrees because the assumption is if you have a master's that means you can do technical work AND write. One of my former bosses said he finds that a load of bull, he knows a ton of people with graduate degrees that can't write their way out of a paper bag.I have to have a pretty strong theoretical background in chemistry and biology. Which one I need the most depends on what job I am doing. My last job I had to really dig deep for my organic chem knowledge. With this job I am back to using more of my genetics background. I need to take immunology which I have zero experience in so I can better understand what it is I am doing for a living now. What lab skills I need also depends on the job. My HPLC skills are starting to slide since I am no longer required to use them every day. I've had to learn to become adept at flow cytometry very quickly. My dissection skills are slowly coming back as I am required to do more and more for histology. While I know a lot of people who get by without it I find that having a strong background in the required regulations is helpful. I am a walking Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee manual. That helps me do my job better because I am less likely to screw up and piss off the people I need to work with me. The lab I am in right now has had several run ins with CM so it would not take a lot to push things over the edge. Knowing the manual helps keep me in line and I can also keep other people in line. Same with biosafety. If I ever catch the person leaving used razor blades lying around I am going to cut that person with it. That is a HUGE no no. All of us should know that because it's part of our yearly lab safety training. As the lab manager sometimes it's my job to remind people of those rules. When I was interviewing for my postdoc, the PI asked me if I had actually written my first-author papers. I thought it was a strange question at the time, but now I can see how naive I was back then. Right now, I am working for a company that provides editing services for scientists who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag (in English at least). The only qualifications required were a PhD from a highly ranked school and the ability to write with the proficiency of a native speaker of English.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 16, 2016 15:11:17 GMT -5
I need the ability to understand people for whom English is a second language and who all think they are my bosses.
I need to stretch a hamburger budget into fois gras.
I have to have good enough ESP I can anticipate what my real boss wants.
And there is one particular person I must be pleasant to when what I really want to do is choke him and hide his body in the trash compactor.
I have a BS degree, a professional certification and a lot of regulatory knowledge, but none of that helped me with the really important parts of my job. Those things I learned the hard way.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 16, 2016 15:37:59 GMT -5
I need at least a bachelor's but the field is so glutted they are wanting master's degrees because the assumption is if you have a master's that means you can do technical work AND write. One of my former bosses said he finds that a load of bull, he knows a ton of people with graduate degrees that can't write their way out of a paper bag.I have to have a pretty strong theoretical background in chemistry and biology. Which one I need the most depends on what job I am doing. My last job I had to really dig deep for my organic chem knowledge. With this job I am back to using more of my genetics background. I need to take immunology which I have zero experience in so I can better understand what it is I am doing for a living now. What lab skills I need also depends on the job. My HPLC skills are starting to slide since I am no longer required to use them every day. I've had to learn to become adept at flow cytometry very quickly. My dissection skills are slowly coming back as I am required to do more and more for histology. While I know a lot of people who get by without it I find that having a strong background in the required regulations is helpful. I am a walking Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee manual. That helps me do my job better because I am less likely to screw up and piss off the people I need to work with me. The lab I am in right now has had several run ins with CM so it would not take a lot to push things over the edge. Knowing the manual helps keep me in line and I can also keep other people in line. Same with biosafety. If I ever catch the person leaving used razor blades lying around I am going to cut that person with it. That is a HUGE no no. All of us should know that because it's part of our yearly lab safety training. As the lab manager sometimes it's my job to remind people of those rules. When I was interviewing for my postdoc, the PI asked me if I had actually written my first-author papers. I thought it was a strange question at the time, but now I can see how naive I was back then. Right now, I am working for a company that provides editing services for scientists who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag (in English at least). The only qualifications required were a PhD from a highly ranked school and the ability to write with the proficiency of a native speaker of English. There are also a lot of postdocs who attach themselves to other people's work and play politics to get themselves ranked higher in the author list even if they did not contribute much.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 16:07:05 GMT -5
Current job: the ability to bake flatbread and baguettes without burning them or me. So far this week I'm batting 1-0. Gave myself a lovely burn on my arm and a nice bloody cut on my finger from a crispy baguette, last Monday night. It was not a good night for me. No degree needed for this. Just be dumb and willing to work 3rd shift. I fit those criteria but am now approaching my bullshit limit so am polishing up my resume and looking at and applying for new jobs.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jun 16, 2016 17:53:11 GMT -5
I don't have a degree although it is generally a requirement for my job. I manage a program at one of the largest health insurance companies. Need the ability to lead teams, and influence the outcomes by getting buy-in by a diverse team from many areas within the company. Ability to quickly assess a prospective supplier's capabilities and determine if they'd be a good fit for our company. Ability to meet the public at vendor fairs and conferences. Presentation skills a must.
I lucked into this job when a former manager asked me to take over the program when the previous manager left rather abruptly. I work in a niche area and was transitioned into management because of that skill set.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 16, 2016 19:44:05 GMT -5
I am a contracts manager and I manage roughly $3B in contracts. The education for most people in my position would be in the legal field. My degrees are in chemistry, accounting/finance, with a smathering of CS/programing certifications.
What I am good at (provided I concentrate) is reading: what is there, what isn't, and what either one means. I really am an analyst at heart. I am also pretty good at negotiating and dealing with people from many different countries/cultures.
Hey, they pay me to do something I learned in first grade → not bad I would say
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 16, 2016 19:53:32 GMT -5
I have some contracts I run. I compare it to herding cats. And the writing I do all day, I'm not an English major! In the herding cats part, be organized enough to track 30+ schedules under the contracts and keep them moving.
On the other side of my job, what my job description really is, I'm an auditor. For that data analysis, SQL and interpreting regulations. From time to time creating tidy little packages for prosecution. DOJ needs it gift wrapped or it won't fly.
Some of the analytical stuff I probably learned in college because my degrees are in finance and accounting. Some investigations stuff I learned in the forensic auditing part of our program. The managing all kinds of different personalities all over the country? Learned that the hard way and still learning.
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