General Election 2016: Clinton -vs- Trump

[Tennesseer]

Jun 5, 2016 21:23:16 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 5, 2016 18:15:28 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i just heard his interview about this, and he keeps saying "i am building a wall with Mexico.  this guy has Mexican heritage".

i understand the leap that HE has made, but i don't think it follows that it has anything to do with his ruling.  but if Trump things the judge is being "racist" (or, more aptly, anti-US Nationalist), then he should appeal the ruling.

The person that can't stop talking about Judge Gonzalo Curiel's Mexican heritage is Judge Curiel..

You were saying?

Donald Trump Belittles Staff in Flap Over Judge Comments, Report Says

Donald J. Trump told supporters on a conference call on Monday that they should scrap a campaign memo instructing them not to publicly discuss the Trump University case and said that “not so smart” people are doling out advice in his campaign, according to a published report.

Instead, Mr. Trump said, his supporters should keep up the claims of bias against the federal judge in the case, Gonzalo P. Curiel, and accuse reporters of being “racists” for asking questions about the candidate’s criticism, according to the report, published Monday afternoon on the Bloomberg website.

It was a breathtaking display of Mr. Trump’s belittlement of his own team on a call with former governors and senators, as well as others supporting his candidacy. The report was confirmed independently by two people who were on the call.

Jan Brewer, the former governor of Arizona, confirmed that she was on a call to discuss a memo that had been sent by the campaign. That memo, disseminated by Erica Freeman, who handles surrogate matters for the campaign, advised allies not to address the lawsuit anymore with reporters, and to let it play out in court. Mr. Trump has been roundly criticized by Republicans, including his own supporters, for the remarks suggesting that the Indiana-born Judge Curiel is a “Mexican” who is negatively predisposed against the presumptive Republican nominee and should not be presiding over the case.

Later, he added that his allies should mount a frontal attack against reporters questioning him for his criticism of Judge Curiel.

“The people asking the questions — those are the racists,” Mr. Trump said, according to the Bloomberg report. “I would go at ’em.”

Complete article here: Donald Trump Belittles Staff in Flap Over Judge Comments, Report Says

[Tennesseer]

And...

Trump says it’s ‘inappropriate’ for ally Newt Gingrich to criticize his attacks on the ‘Mexican’ judge

Donald Trump lashed out Monday at former House speaker Newt Gingrich — one of his close allies who has been mentioned as a possible running mate — saying that it was "inappropriate" for Gingrich to criticize the Republican presidential nominee's recent comments about the ethnicity of a federal judge.

For more than a week, Trump has repeatedly said that U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is presiding over fraud lawsuits against his Trump ­University education business, should recuse himself because “he’s a Mexican.” Curiel was born in Indiana to Mexican immigrant parents, and Trump says his desire to build a wall on the border with Mexico means that the judge, because of his ethnic background, has a conflict of interest. Trump did not back down from that position during an interview on Fox News early Monday morning, at one point saying: “All I’m trying to do is figure out why I’m being treated so unfairly by a judge."

Gingrich strongly rebuked Trump's comments during an interview on "Fox News Sunday," as did a number of prominent Republicans over the weekend. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he “couldn’t disagree more” with Trump, although he would not label the attacks as racist. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) struggled to answer questions about Trump's positions, at one point saying he had agreed to be interviewed just about foreign policy. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Friday that he disagreed with Trump's comments, adding: “He clearly says and does things I don’t agree with."

"This is one of the worst mistakes Trump has made, and I think it's inexcusable," Gingrich said in the interview Sunday. "This judge was born in Indiana. He is an American, period. When you come to America, you get to become an American."

Trump says it’s ‘inappropriate’ for ally Newt Gingrich to criticize his attacks on the ‘Mexican’ judge


I imagine Bernie Madoff also wondered why he was being treated so unfairly by a judge too.

[weltschmerz]

Lol! So now the Grand Arbiter of what is inappropriate is Trump? Too funny!

He's stuck on one speed....inappropriate.

[resolution]

Jill Stein has been encouraging Bernie to switch to the Green party if he doesn't get the Democratic nominations. That might guarantee Trump the election in 2016, but it would probably get the Green Party enough votes to get on the ballot in 2020 in all 50 states plus an invitation to the conventions and public funding. His platform is actually much closer to the Green party than the Democrats.

In another unprecedented political move, Jill Stein also recently told Senator Sanders to consider ditching his affiliation with the Democratic Party if the party doesn’t choose him as their nominee. The Green Party doesn’t hold their presidential nominating contest until after the Democratic convention, and should Sanders accept, he could get top billing on the Green Party ticket for the General Election, an election where independent voters, like all of the NPP voters in California, can vote without complications.

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/3169933/green-partys-jill-stein-tells-californians-please-vote-for-bernie-if-able/#G7pUXkkhKiq64Ufq.99

[djAdvocate]

Jun 6, 2016 16:48:14 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

DJ how do you think the polls will change when Bernie hangs it up?

Will there be a significant jump for Hillary or for Trump or will all those young adult Bernie voters just take their toys and go home without voting at all, leaving the playing field pretty much the same as it is now?

i know it sounds nuts, but i think her numbers will go up when Bernie is out.

people like "winners".  that is part of why Trump has caught up with Clinton.  Trump sealed the deal, and she has not.

i SUSPECT that when she wins the nomination, she will get a bump up.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 6, 2016 20:39:41 GMT -5 resolution said:

Jill Stein has been encouraging Bernie to switch to the Green party if he doesn't get the Democratic nominations. That might guarantee Trump the election in 2016, but it would probably get the Green Party enough votes to get on the ballot in 2020 in all 50 states plus an invitation to the conventions and public funding. His platform is actually much closer to the Green party than the Democrats.

In another unprecedented political move, Jill Stein also recently told Senator Sanders to consider ditching his affiliation with the Democratic Party if the party doesn’t choose him as their nominee. The Green Party doesn’t hold their presidential nominating contest until after the Democratic convention, and should Sanders accept, he could get top billing on the Green Party ticket for the General Election, an election where independent voters, like all of the NPP voters in California, can vote without complications.

Read more at www.inquisitr.com/3169933/green-partys-jill-stein-tells-californians-please-vote-for-bernie-if-able/#G7pUXkkhKiq64Ufq.99

Jill Stein's platform is almost indistinguishable from Sander's.

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This is going to be one interesting General Election in November...

[djAdvocate]

Jun 6, 2016 17:55:12 GMT -5 @richardintn said:

Jun 6, 2016 14:59:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it may surprise you to know that my position on Trump has not really changed that much.  last fall, i thought he was a longshot to win the nomination.  however, in December i said "i don't know how they are going to beat him".  by Feb, i thought i had it figured out: that Cruz and Kasich were going to stick around long enough to make it a contested convention, and that the party elite would take over and push Trump out.  and i will admit, with absolute candor, that i was SHOCKED when both men dropped out.  i was shocked because BOTH said they were in it until the convention (and for the precise reasons i thought they were).  they swore up and down about it.  they were absolute fucking liars, and that did indeed shock me, that they could do so so brazenly.

ever since they dropped out, Trump has had a clear path to victory.  the only thing that stops him is something unforseen.  i would say he is about a 20:1 favourite to win the nomination.  i would say that Clinton is about 15:1. 

Trump has a sizeable chance of winning the presidency.  his odds are probably about the same as Romney's.  but a lot of things have to go his way.  he has to perform a lot better in places like PA, OH, and FL.  and he has to hope that when the extra attention is showered upon him, that the GENERAL PUBLIC like him as much as Republicans do.  i consider those things quite unlikely. 

as of today, i am lowering his odds from 3:5 of winning to 2:5.

They are both "professional politicians"... not sure why them lying (or "breaking promises" as some might call what they did) comes as a shock to you.

i expect politicians to fudge things.  i expect them to tell half-truths and to withhold damaging details.  i don't expect them to FERVENTLY PROMISE things, and then utterly capitulate and back down.

if that makes me some sort of dewey eyed idealist, i will accept that, but i really thought that Cruz, in particular, had more integrity than that.  i was banking on it actually. 

[Jaguar]

Hillary Clinton has clinched the nomination :

www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/hillary-clinton-nomination-2016/index.html

www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html?_r=0



The story was breaking all over Facebook and Twitter.

[djAdvocate]

yeah, so i was wrong on both sides.  i didn't realize that the media called uncommitted delegates to call the race.  something new i learned this year.

[happyhoix]

Trump did not back down from that position during an interview on Fox News early Monday morning, at one point saying: “All I’m trying to do is figure out why I’m being treated so unfairly by a judge."

For someone who is openly hostile and prone to name calling, Trump sure gets his feelings hurt easily when he thinks he's being treated unfairly.

I suspect his definition of 'unfairly' is not the common one - for Trump, being treated 'fairly' means he gets to win, all the time, in every contest, and anyone who messes that up for him is being 'unfair.'

Maybe that's what happens when you grow up wealthy, surrounded by servants who make you the center of the universe.  You begin to expect a certain amount of pandering from the mere mortals who surround you.

[Value Buy]

Jun 7, 2016 8:09:55 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 6, 2016 23:16:40 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yeah, so i was wrong on both sides.  i didn't realize that the media called uncommitted delegates to call the race.  something new i learned this year.

dj, in fairness they did the same thing in 2007
Hillary conceded the nomination to Obama because of the super delegates switching from her to him. Technically, they had not been
"officially counted" at the time.
The media was having a wet dream euphoria over Obama at the time and pushed the envelope in Obama's favor.

[Value Buy]

I see Trump is not alone in his criticism of a judge.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/thousands-push-for-judge-in-stanford-sex-assault-case-to-be-removed/ar-BBtWftT?li=BBnb7Kz
If you do not like the verdict get rid of the judge.
Trump is just being proactive by trying to remove him before the trial.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 7, 2016 9:14:13 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

I see Trump is not alone in his criticism of a judge.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/thousands-push-for-judge-in-stanford-sex-assault-case-to-be-removed/ar-BBtWftT?li=BBnb7Kz
If you do not like the verdict get rid of the judge.
Trump is just being proactive by trying to remove him before the trial.

And the politicians who have endorsed Trump and many of his financial backers are hortified of his comments about the judge.

[Tennesseer]

This is starting to stink and mat stink for quite a while


WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates

The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.

The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All, reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in the Orlando Sentinel.

After the check came in, Bondi's office nixed suing Trump, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.

The timing of the donation by Trump is notable because the now presumptive Republican presidential nominee has said he expects and receives favors from politicians to whom he gives money.

"When I want something I get it," Trump said at an Iowa rally in January. "When I call, they kiss my ass. It's true."

Complete article here:

Florida AG asked Trump for donation before nixing fraud case

[ken a.k.a OMK]

"I regret those comments that he made. Claiming a person can't do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment. I think that should be absolutely disavowed," Ryan told reporters.

[Tennesseer]

Just in case anyone is wondering where ken a.k.a OMK got that comment.


Ryan: Trump's comments about judge are 'textbook' racism

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Thanks Tenn. I can't write above or below the quote box anymore, even if I edit my post. 

[Tennesseer]

Another day, another lie.

Trump: I ‘broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women’ in construction industry

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday claimed he was one of the people who “broke the glass ceiling" for women in the construction industry, defending his record on women’s issues amid scrutiny over gender-based pay gaps on his campaign staff.

The statement came on the same night that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton clinched the Democratic party’s nomination, making her the first woman at the top of a major party ticket. Trump's critics immediately mocked his comments — and the timing — on social media.

“Number one, I have great respect for women. I was the one that really broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women, more than anybody in the construction industry,” Trump told Bill O’Reilly on Fox News Monday. “My relationship I think is going to end up being very good with women.”

Trump: I ‘broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women’ in construction industry

Trump was all of 7 years old when National Association of Women in Construction (NAWIC) was founded.

National Association of Women in Construction

[happyhoix]

Jun 7, 2016 9:47:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This is starting to stink and mat stink for quite a while


WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates

The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.

The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All, reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in the Orlando Sentinel.

After the check came in, Bondi's office nixed suing Trump, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.

The timing of the donation by Trump is notable because the now presumptive Republican presidential nominee has said he expects and receives favors from politicians to whom he gives money.

"When I want something I get it," Trump said at an Iowa rally in January. "When I call, they kiss my ass. It's true."

Complete article here:

Florida AG asked Trump for donation before nixing fraud case

The very BEST part of this story, IMHO, is that Trump didn't give her the money out of his own pocket.

He had one of this charities, set up with money OTHER PEOPLE had donated (thinking it was for charities) to bribe the AG into dropping the investigation into TU.

Which is, by the way, ILLEGAL (charities aren't allowed to make political contributions). Plus I'm sure if I donated money to a charity I'd be mad as hell if it went into a bribe to help make someone's lawsuit disappear.

Also, the Texas AG dropped the Texas investigation against TU, despite the fact that his staff claims they had plenty of evidence of fraud. TU left the state with a promise not to do business there anymore - and the Texas AG also got a nice fat check from Trump, although at least he wanted until AFTER he dropped the case to accept the donation.

I've been wondering why Trump is seemingly going off the rails lately (more so than usual), attacking this judge and even infighting with his staff. I wonder if he knows the more the press digs on this whole TU thing (and all the other stupid shit Trump lent his name to, like Trump Steaks) the more quasi legal shit they'll find.

Which also begs the question, if Trump is such a stellar businessman, worth oodles and gobs of money, why the hell does he engage in these shady businesses? Might it be that he isn't as rich, and isn't as great a businessman as he claims to be? (Haven't seen the tax records yet, have we)

Perhaps he's unusually cranky because the media is about to dig down and find his clay feet?

Did he really think, when he ran for president, that the media and the dems wouldn't be rooting around in his darkest cellars looking for every skeleton they could find? Foolish man.

[happyhoix]

Jun 7, 2016 11:32:14 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Another day, another lie.

Trump: I ‘broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women’ in construction industry

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday claimed he was one of the people who “broke the glass ceiling" for women in the construction industry, defending his record on women’s issues amid scrutiny over gender-based pay gaps on his campaign staff.

The statement came on the same night that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton clinched the Democratic party’s nomination, making her the first woman at the top of a major party ticket. Trump's critics immediately mocked his comments — and the timing — on social media.

“Number one, I have great respect for women. I was the one that really broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women, more than anybody in the construction industry,” Trump told Bill O’Reilly on Fox News Monday. “My relationship I think is going to end up being very good with women.”

Trump: I ‘broke the glass ceiling on behalf of women’ in construction industry

Trump was all of 7 years old when National Association of Women in Construction (NAWIC) was founded.

National Association of Women in Construction

Well, one only has to look at his series of wives to see how much he values educated, intelligent women with high powered careers.

And, errr, boobage.

[weltschmerz]

Trump only values supermodels and beauty pageant contestants.

Everyone else is an old, fat pig on her period.

“Evidently, Trumps philosophy of wellness is rooted in a belief that prolonged exposure to exceptionally attractive young spa attendants will instill in the male clientele a will to live...Trump introduced me to ‘our resident physician, Dr. Ginger Lee Southall’—a recent chiropractic college graduate...I asked Trump where she had done her training. ‘I’m not sure,’ he said, ‘Baywatch Medical School? Does that sound right? I’ll tell you the truth. Once I saw Dr. Ginger’s photograph, I didn’t really need to look at her resume or anyone else’s. Are you asking me, ‘Did we hire her because she trained at Mount Sinai for fifteen years? The answer is no. And I’ll tell you why: because by the time she’s spent fifteen years at Mount Sinai, we don’t want to look at her’”

www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-w-austin/a-christian-case-against-trump_b_8812520.html

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2016 8:05:18 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trump did not back down from that position during an interview on Fox News early Monday morning, at one point saying: “All I’m trying to do is figure out why I’m being treated so unfairly by a judge."

For someone who is openly hostile and prone to name calling, Trump sure gets his feelings hurt easily when he thinks he's being treated unfairly.

I suspect his definition of 'unfairly' is not the common one - for Trump, being treated 'fairly' means he gets to win, all the time, in every contest, and anyone who messes that up for him is being 'unfair.'

Maybe that's what happens when you grow up wealthy, surrounded by servants who make you the center of the universe.  You begin to expect a certain amount of pandering from the mere mortals who surround you.

he and his tiny fingers have the skin of a gossamer (sic?).

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2016 8:11:13 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Jun 6, 2016 20:39:41 GMT -5 resolution said:

Jill Stein has been encouraging Bernie to switch to the Green party if he doesn't get the Democratic nominations. That might guarantee Trump the election in 2016, but it would probably get the Green Party enough votes to get on the ballot in 2020 in all 50 states plus an invitation to the conventions and public funding. His platform is actually much closer to the Green party than the Democrats.

It might, but it might not too. There is an interesting sideshow going on right now with the Johnson/ Weld ticket for the Libertarian Party.  Both are moderate Republicans who could draw heavily from disaffected sane GOP members who recoil from Trump.

I don't really expect this to play out like this but wouldn't it be fascinating if we had not one but two strong third party efforts in the same GE?

the polling indicates that the Johnson ticket pulls equally from both parties- so it might not change the result, at all.  IBD/TIPP has been following that ticket since before it was actually announced.  they have data going back 4 months.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2016 8:30:28 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 7, 2016 8:09:55 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

dj, in fairness they did the same thing in 2007
Hillary conceded the nomination to Obama because of the super delegates switching from her to him. Technically, they had not been
"officially counted" at the time.
The media was having a wet dream euphoria over Obama at the time and pushed the envelope in Obama's favor.

i didn't catch it that year.  2012 either.

oh, and i think that you meant 2008.  Hillary conceded in June of that year.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2016 13:04:37 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jun 7, 2016 9:47:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This is starting to stink and mat stink for quite a while


WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates

The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday provides additional details around the unusual circumstances of Trump's $25,000 donation to Bondi.

The money came from a Trump family foundation in apparent violation of rules surrounding political activities by charities. A political group backing Bondi's re-election, called And Justice for All, reported receiving the check Sept. 17, 2013 — four days after Bondi's office publicly announced she was considering joining a New York state probe of Trump University's activities, according to a 2013 report in the Orlando Sentinel.

After the check came in, Bondi's office nixed suing Trump, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.

The timing of the donation by Trump is notable because the now presumptive Republican presidential nominee has said he expects and receives favors from politicians to whom he gives money.

"When I want something I get it," Trump said at an Iowa rally in January. "When I call, they kiss my ass. It's true."

Complete article here:

Florida AG asked Trump for donation before nixing fraud case

The very BEST part of this story, IMHO, is that Trump didn't give her the money out of his own pocket.

He had one of this charities, set up with money OTHER PEOPLE had donated (thinking it was for charities) to bribe the AG into dropping the investigation into TU.

Which is, by the way, ILLEGAL (charities aren't allowed to make political contributions). Plus I'm sure if I donated money to a charity I'd be mad as hell if it went into a bribe to help make someone's lawsuit disappear.

Also, the Texas AG dropped the Texas investigation against TU, despite the fact that his staff claims they had plenty of evidence of fraud. TU left the state with a promise not to do business there anymore - and the Texas AG also got a nice fat check from Trump, although at least he wanted until AFTER he dropped the case to accept the donation.

I've been wondering why Trump is seemingly going off the rails lately (more so than usual), attacking this judge and even infighting with his staff. I wonder if he knows the more the press digs on this whole TU thing (and all the other stupid shit Trump lent his name to, like Trump Steaks) the more quasi legal shit they'll find.

Which also begs the question, if Trump is such a stellar businessman, worth oodles and gobs of money, why the hell does he engage in these shady businesses? Might it be that he isn't as rich, and isn't as great a businessman as he claims to be? (Haven't seen the tax records yet, have we)

Perhaps he's unusually cranky because the media is about to dig down and find his clay feet?

Did he really think, when he ran for president, that the media and the dems wouldn't be rooting around in his darkest cellars looking for every skeleton they could find? Foolish man.

first off, i LOVE this post. 

secondly, i can answer the question about Trump Steaks.  Trump is endlessly ambitious.  he figures he is so awesome that everything he touches will be awesome, and make him huge money.  which is, of course, utter nonsense.  he is completely incompetent at running a wholesale meat company, a mortgage company, and an airline, to name three.  he is NOT Richard Branson (no matter how much he might like to be).  he makes a LOT of bad decisions.  but the answer to your question is that he thinks he is King Midas, albeit with decidedly smaller fingers.

[Value Buy]

Jun 7, 2016 17:32:50 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jun 7, 2016 8:30:28 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

i didn't catch it that year.  2012 either.

oh, and i think that you meant 2008.  Hillary conceded in June of that year.

I believe Hillary did it on June 6th, in 2008

[Value Buy]

Well, it looks like we are coming to the end of the very long primary season tonight.
Will Hillary actually win California to finally stop Bernie?

I hope so.
Bernie fought a good fight. A fair fight.
But it is over now.
Time for Hillary and Donald to sharpen the knives for the final battle.






Unless Trump bows out this week, and leaves it for Cruz to do the final scene.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 7, 2016 20:17:14 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Well, it looks like we are coming to the end of the very long primary season tonight.
Will Hillary actually win California to finally stop Bernie?

I hope so.
Bernie fought a good fight. A fair fight.
But it is over now.
Time for Hillary and Donald to sharpen the knives for the final battle.

Unless Trump bows out this week, and leaves it for Cruz to do the final scene.

LOL!

not going to happen.

so, i think Clinton stands a very good chance of winning tonight.  i think it is unlikely that she will win by large margins, which is going to keep Bernie in the game. 

it is POSSIBLE that Sanders is just putting on his game face for purpose of his followers.  this crazy talk about "taking it to the convention" makes no sense.  Clinton is right about that fact.  he has no case to make.  he lost.  it is not about how many states you win.  it is about how many votes you get (at least on the Democratic side, which is all proportional).  Clinton collected about 56% of the vote to Sander's 44%.  if it were the general election, that kind of a margin of victory would ensure the victor probably 40+ states. 

it doesn't matter that Sanders MIGHT run better against Trump (i think it is debatable, actually).  Kasich would have run better against Clinton, but that did not stop Trump from winning.  so, let's just all pretend that Kasich and Sanders won and get on with it.  let the voters decide.  we now have two pretty stark choices, and that is healthy for elections.

[Value Buy]

Tonight just seems so anti-climatic for me.
I thought Trump would be the nominee after he knocked Jeb out of the race, even though I switched to Christie.
Hillary was handed the nomination a year ago, but she fumbled it the rest of the year, but is stumbling across the goal line tonight.

Trump since clinching the nomination has been trying to throw it all away.
Everything he accomplished, he is now trashing.