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Post by billisonboard on May 20, 2016 19:31:08 GMT -5
Rights come from a Creator. |
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Post by billisonboard on May 20, 2016 19:31:44 GMT -5
No they don't. They come from man. |
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No, you're the one that's wrong. |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 20, 2016 19:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 0:47:46 GMT -5
More importantly grasshopper, what are rights? Are they not the same thing as space and time?  |
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Post by Opti on May 21, 2016 0:53:10 GMT -5
I demand all rights when I create a work of art, fiction, or film.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 9:28:09 GMT -5
I think our rights come from purple unicorns on Jupiter, prove it wrong.
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 10:50:31 GMT -5
More importantly grasshopper, what are rights? Are they not the same thing as space and time? I experience space and time independent of other human beings. I have experienced "rights" only in relationship to other human beings. |
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 11:05:16 GMT -5
I think our rights come from purple unicorns on Jupiter, prove it wrong. The atmospheric conditions on Jupiter allow for the existence of a limited light spectrum. Only primary colors exist there. Jupitar |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 11:15:32 GMT -5
More importantly grasshopper, what are rights? Are they not the same thing as space and time? I experience space and time independent of other human beings. I have experienced "rights" only in relationship to other human beings. What about space and time in your community? Individuals are part of a larger system in which space and time have cohesion due to external forces. Or how about perception? For instance China believes they are within their rights to build military bases on islands that other nations believe they have rights to? Due individual rights even exist? Or are they just a matter of perspective? For instance, five year olds believe in rights that matter to them. The same can be said about any age or demographic. Which again leads to a group of people sharing a system of beliefs that individuals perceive as their own.... |
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 12:19:29 GMT -5
I experience space and time independent of other human beings. I have experienced "rights" only in relationship to other human beings. What about space and time in your community? Individuals are part of a larger system in which space and time have cohesion due to external forces. Or how about perception? For instance China believes they are within their rights to build military bases on islands that other nations believe they have rights to? Due individual rights even exist? Or are they just a matter of perspective? For instance, five year olds believe in rights that matter to them. The same can be said about any age or demographic. Which again leads to a group of people sharing a system of beliefs that individuals perceive as their own.... What about what about space and time in my community? Time and space have "cohesion" to the degree humans can't perceive them separately. Only individuals can believe. China is a geographic area. Do the leaders belief their actions are within their "rights" or do they belief they have the power to "do" so they "do"? I have no idea. I'm not really concerned if "rights" exist. I do as I wish based on my experience of likely consequence of those actions. |
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Post by Opti on May 21, 2016 12:25:25 GMT -5
I think our rights come from purple unicorns on Jupiter, prove it wrong. The atmospheric conditions on Jupiter allow for the existence of a limited light spectrum. Only primary colors exist there. Jupitar Our rights come from being rich and having money. 
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 12:25:26 GMT -5
You can't have a discussion about religion because of so many arrogant anti religious bigots. they are not funny or clever. Take something that means something to someone and mock it and ridicule it. It just shows your ass to do so.
Haha, this guy thinks something I don't what a dumb ass he is, but I won't make any kind of reasoned argument, I will just mock.
Rights aren't anything but personal prejudice if they don't come from something other then personal prejudice.
People don't have to agree but what a bunch of bigoted replies that are just hate for believing in a higher purpose or reason for life.
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 12:34:46 GMT -5
You can't have a discussion about religion because of so many arrogant anti religious bigots. they are not funny or clever. Take something that means something to someone and mock it and ridicule it. It just shows your ass to do so. Haha, this guy thinks something I don't what a dumb ass he is, but I won't make any kind of reasoned argument, I will just mock. Rights aren't anything but personal prejudice if they don't come from something other then personal prejudice. People don't have to agree but what a bunch of bigoted replies that are just hate for believing in a higher purpose or reason for life. See signature below |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 12:41:02 GMT -5
What about space and time in your community? Individuals are part of a larger system in which space and time have cohesion due to external forces. Or how about perception? For instance China believes they are within their rights to build military bases on islands that other nations believe they have rights to? Due individual rights even exist? Or are they just a matter of perspective? For instance, five year olds believe in rights that matter to them. The same can be said about any age or demographic. Which again leads to a group of people sharing a system of beliefs that individuals perceive as their own.... What about what about space and time in my community? Time and space have "cohesion" to the degree humans can't perceive them separately. Only individuals can belief. China is a geographic area. Do the leaders belief their actions are within their "rights" or do they belief they have the part to "do" so they "do"? I have no idea. I'm not really concerned if "rights" exist. I do as I wish based on my experience of likely consequence of those actions. You share time and space with everyone in your community, and on a larger scale the world. Your reality of what goes on inside of that time and space is your own, however, still is influenced by outside forces. You work, sleep, eat at similar hours as others in your community. Your activities are guided by external forces and laws set out in your Constitution and Bill of. Rights IE, sporting/live events start at scheduled times. How you perceived those events are based in your reality, but the cohesion of time and space exist because of the external forces. China and other countries are geographic locations because people perceived that they had the right to the land. Water rights, and other physical assets are the same way. Perception makes the right to ownership which affects others time and space. Further, those actions and consequences you speak of are relative to the evolution of the laws and concepts laid out by the founding fathers. The rights you have as an American differ from rights of others in different geographical locations. Certain Americans believe that their individual rights are being trampled by the Government, while those same rights are viewed by others as an expansion of the rights the founding fathers laid out. Again perception. So, you can view you personal beliefs and one way, while the perception of others is the complete opposite. Which leads back to, do individual rights even exist? |
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 12:47:47 GMT -5
... Which leads back to, do individual rights even exist? Tis a great circle.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 13:20:46 GMT -5
I think our rights come from purple unicorns on Jupiter, prove it wrong. The atmospheric conditions on Jupiter allow for the existence of a limited light spectrum. Only primary colors exist there. Jupitar There is a protective force field in the middle of the planet that creates a bubble for the omnipotent unicorns. |
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The atmospheric conditions on Jupiter allow for the existence of a limited light spectrum. Only primary colors exist there. Jupitar There is a protective force field in the middle of the planet that creates a bubble for the omnipotent unicorns. Be that as it may, they still ain't purple. |
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Post by weltschmerz on May 21, 2016 13:55:23 GMT -5
You can't have a discussion about religion because of so many arrogant anti religious bigots. they are not funny or clever. Take something that means something to someone and mock it and ridicule it. It just shows your ass to do so. Haha, this guy thinks something I don't what a dumb ass he is, but I won't make any kind of reasoned argument, I will just mock. Rights aren't anything but personal prejudice if they don't come from something other then personal prejudice. People don't have to agree but what a bunch of bigoted replies that are just hate for believing in a higher purpose or reason for life. Sure, pretend to get all butt-hurt when your religion comes under a bit of scrutiny. Anything to avoid addressing the question I've posed to you repeatedly. If rights come from a Creator, then why doesn't he grant these rights to everyone? He created everyone, didn't he? Or does this creator smile benignly and say "I'm going to grant these rights to American citizens only. Everyone else can screw off."
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 14:07:02 GMT -5
There is a protective force field in the middle of the planet that creates a bubble for the omnipotent unicorns. Be that as it may, they still ain't purple. I think we can agree on "plum" instead of purple.. |
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Post by billisonboard on May 21, 2016 14:12:45 GMT -5
... Or des this creator smile benignly and say "I'm going to grant these rights to American citizens only. Everyone else can screw off." I think it is kinda like this: |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 14:32:52 GMT -5
... Which leads back to, do individual rights even exist? Tis a great circle. Precisely. |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 14:42:44 GMT -5
You can't have a discussion about religion because of so many arrogant anti religious bigots. they are not funny or clever. Take something that means something to someone and mock it and ridicule it. It just shows your ass to do so. Haha, this guy thinks something I don't what a dumb ass he is, but I won't make any kind of reasoned argument, I will just mock. Rights aren't anything but personal prejudice if they don't come from something other then personal prejudice. People don't have to agree but what a bunch of bigoted replies that are just hate for believing in a higher purpose or reason for life. Sure, pretend to get all butt-hurt when your religion comes under a bit of scrutiny. Anything to avoid addressing the question I've posed to you repeatedly. If rights come from a Creator, then why doesn't he grant these rights to everyone? He created everyone, didn't he? Or des this creator smile benignly and say "I'm going to grant these rights to American citizens only. Everyone else can screw off."
That's a simple one weltz. Humans have been given free will so we aren't all robots. It was a risk in doing so, and getting the idea of everyone love everyone universally accepted has been the biggest task in human history. It's not about the US is the only place, it's about being the starting point of the NWO. Before you ask. Wouldn't an all knowing God know his creations would do this. The answer is risk. All good business plans have risk, and you do your best to overcome the obstacles that risk puts in place. In other words, it becomes our choice to end up like the dinosaurs or not as we have been given a lot of direction to the right path. AKA. It's going to be interesting to see where we go from 2018 on..  |
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Post by weltschmerz on May 21, 2016 14:55:51 GMT -5
First of all, if you're omnipotent and omniscient, THERE IS NO RISK. Secondly, this has little to do with the notion of claiming that the rights of Americans come from God, like the right to bear arms. God had nothing to do with it. |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 21, 2016 15:11:07 GMT -5
Perhaps the idea of omnipotent and omniscient is a perception issue. There is no such thing in this world as no risk. However, we do know that energy is everywhere and started when time began. There is the Dinosaurs; we we know that the previous models of the alpha's of earth didn't work out.
As far as guns go, they would be unnecessary if people loved on another. What I am speaking to is the evolution that every person is equal regardless of race or gender. And I'm pretty sure that from 2018-2026 it will be a period in which #FirstWorldProblems will become irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 15:50:58 GMT -5
You can't have a discussion about religion because of so many arrogant anti religious bigots. they are not funny or clever. Take something that means something to someone and mock it and ridicule it. It just shows your ass to do so. Haha, this guy thinks something I don't what a dumb ass he is, but I won't make any kind of reasoned argument, I will just mock. Rights aren't anything but personal prejudice if they don't come from something other then personal prejudice. People don't have to agree but what a bunch of bigoted replies that are just hate for believing in a higher purpose or reason for life. Sure, pretend to get all butt-hurt when your religion comes under a bit of scrutiny. Anything to avoid addressing the question I've posed to you repeatedly. If rights come from a Creator, then why doesn't he grant these rights to everyone? He created everyone, didn't he? Or does this creator smile benignly and say "I'm going to grant these rights to American citizens only. Everyone else can screw off."
I don't know what you are talking about again. What right do you think is inherent to American citizens but not to others? |
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