Bullied kid fights back...

[ty]

blackinkflow.blogspot.com/2011/03/bullied-kid-fights-back.html
Video is included in the link.



You decide. What's your opinion, and
was Casey fighting back justified?




Kudos to Casey that fought back.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Kudos, indeed. I am not a fan of the "no fault" fighting policy in the government run schools where it doesn't matter who started it, or if a kid is defending themselves. We have a natural right to defend ourselves. Kids have a natural right to fight back when they are attacked.

The most shocking thing to me in this video is that this little punk picked on a pretty big old boy. Bully is lucky Casey didn't kill him.

[ty]

I feel the same way PBP. Why should any kid stand there and be assualted verbally and physically by some degenerat bully. Casey imo was justified in what he did to the bully, and I find it funny that the mother of the bully wants an apology from the kid that defended himself, and she is also suing the school and the kid that was defending himself. Hopefually a "real judge" will toss this out and make the family of the kid that was bullying Casey pay him 5 to 15 k in damages for physical assault and mental anguish.

[burnsattornincan]

Whooooaaaa!!!

That kid was messed up bad. You never want to be in the grips of a big guy like that if you're his size. Stupid on his part but he really should have been more careful not to get wrapped up like that. A hell of a body slam by the big kid. No canvas like the WWF, that was the real deal!

[safeharbor37]

Having had similar experiences in the long, long ago when I was in elementary school, I tend to sympathize with big Casey, but it was explained to me that I could really hurt them while I could easily defend myself without undue force. The problem with Casey was that he waited until he was furious and took action which could have severely injured the smaller boy or even killed him.
Now ~ if the little ahole didn't also get suspended, I'd say that Casey's father has every right to punch out [or otherwise inconvenience] the Principal.

[vonnie6200]

Mar 17, 2011 16:15:24 GMT -5 burnsattornincan said:

Whooooaaaa!!!

That kid was messed up bad. You never want to be in the grips of a big guy like that if you're his size. Stupid on his part but he really should have been more careful not to get wrapped up like that. A hell of a body slam by the big kid. No canvas like the WWF, that was the real deal!

And hopefully the little punk learned a life lesson

[ty]

SH37, both kids were suspended. Howeer, the school was already aware of this kid bullying him for months and did nothing about it. As the bully's friend videotaped it on his cell phone cam, I beliee their intent was to go viril and then to try and humilate Casey across the globe. However, the kid finally reached the breaking point, and I feel what he did was 100% justified. Maybe if people weren't out there bullying, stalking and harassing people in schools or the internet, then this never would have happened.

If he did accidently paralyzed or even killed this bully, no judge or jury would convict him of a crime. He was just defending himself.

[ty]

Reminds me of a little Chihuahua teasing a St. Bernard. Too funny.

lol

[vonnie6200]

Mar 17, 2011 16:27:57 GMT -5 @ty said:

SH37, both kids were suspended. Howeer, the school was already aware of this kid bullying him for months and did nothing about it. As the bully's friend videotaped it on his cell phone cam, I beliee their intent was to go viril and then to try and humilate Casey across the globe. However, the kid finally reached the breaking point, and I feel what he did was 100% justified. Maybe if people weren't out there bullying, stalking and harassing people in schools or the internet, then this never would have happened.

If he did accidently paralyzed or even killed this bully, no judge or jury would convict him of a crime. He was just defending himself.

I agree - he actually showed restraint in the beginning

[Peace Of Mind]

What about Casey Heynes getting an apology from the bully hitting him first? And why is defending ones self against assault a suspendable action? This video should be enough evidence to allow Casey back in this school, if he and his parents even want him to go back.

The true violation is that the school allowed this behavior to go on for so long. What a shame.

[henryclay]

Did ja notice the aftermeth? The bully had a bigger friend there who seemed upset at the bully's fate. After being temporatily restrained by another boy the video ends with him going in the same directin s Casey. I wonder what happened then, , , after the video stopped.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Mar 17, 2011 16:27:57 GMT -5 @ty said:

SH37, both kids were suspended. Howeer, the school was already aware of this kid bullying him for months and did nothing about it. As the bully's friend videotaped it on his cell phone cam, I beliee their intent was to go viril and then to try and humilate Casey across the globe. However, the kid finally reached the breaking point, and I feel what he did was 100% justified. Maybe if people weren't out there bullying, stalking and harassing people in schools or the internet, then this never would have happened.

If he did accidently paralyzed or even killed this bully, no judge or jury would convict him of a crime. He was just defending himself.

I was in that situation-- Casey's. For three years from the end of sixth grade until almost the end of my sophomore year, some punk would harrass me, call me names, and punch me in the arm and/or push me, knock my books out of my hands, etc.

The schools did nothing, and my parents, teachers, principals-- all the adults in my life were teaching me not to fight.

One day the bully gave me a particularly hard time, and I turned around instead of ignoring him that time and told him that if he kept it up, I was going to beat him senseless.

A teacher was in the hallway, and I looked her dead in the eyes and told her if that little punk hits me again, he's a dead man.

He punched me two more times- in the kidneys, and in the back of the head.

I turned around (by this time a crowd had gathered, and the teacher was still just a spectator) and looked back at the teacher and she looked away.

OK, fine. I warned you. And I grabbed the kid, put him in a headlock under my left arm, and punched him relentlessly in the face with my right hand, then threw him to the ground and told him to stay down or I'd put him down for good. He came charging at me. I was standing in front of a window-- the concrete ledge school kind. I stepped aside, tripped the bully, and shoved his face into the ledge shattering his cheek bone, the bone underneath his eye, and then I grabbed him by the forehead, jerked him backwards and threw him flat on his back giving him whiplash and cracking the back of his skull.

Now, all of that happened very fast - and of course I was good and pissed off and didn't realize what I was doing at the time. My parents tried to make me go to the hospital and apologize (and of course there was the threat of suspension, even expulsion, and of course the obligatory lawsuit by the bully's parents) and I refused.

Instead, I stood bolt upright in the principal's office and said that a teacher (and I named her) stood and watched this kid beat on me and did nothing. You should worry more about the trouble YOU'RE IN. And I walked out.

I saved MYSELF in that situation AND I saved my parents.

It doesn't always pay to play by the 'rules'. At best, it pays to know the rules and use them to your advantage, at worst you have to come up with a surprise play nobody sees coming.

These bully situations would solve themselves before three years were up if kids were simply permitted to beat bullys. I can guarantee that if we could have just had it out three years earlier, we'd simply have fought, and maybe been friends. Two thirds of the anger I took out on that poor bully was pent up frustration at wanting to pound him earlier, but choosing to stick to the "rules".

[vonnie6200]

Mar 17, 2011 16:31:41 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

What about Casey Heynes getting an apology from the bully hitting him first? And why is defending ones self against assault a suspendable action? This video should be enough evidence to allow Casey back in this school, if he and his parents even want him to go back.

The true violation is that the school allowed this behavior to go on for so long. What a shame.

Couldn't agree more!

[Shirina]

I'm on Casey's side 100%. He almost makes me want to stand up and cheer.

The fact that he did nothing further to the bully after slamming him will go in Casey's favor. Casey knew when to quit. It wasn't as if he continued to kick or punch the bully once it was clear the fight was over.

[ty]

PBP, that was some fight and I certainly applaud you for standing up in your defense and your parents as well. Sometimes these bullies push people a bit to far and later regret it. Especially after they get their azz beat. Bullying comes in many forms and I have witnessed plenty of people on the Internet boards stalking, harassing and bullying people as well. Some people will have to learn the hard way if they don't get the first three messages to leave them alone. 3 strikes and then you (the bully) is out. That's my motto.

[Deleted]

I love this Casey kid!

[ty]

I love this Casey kid!

me tew...

[fairlycrazy23]

I saw where the bullys mom wants casey to apologize to her son..wtf?!?!

[marjar]

Sometimes, you just have to say that enough is enough. Casey did.

[ty]

I saw where the bully's mom wants Casey to apologize to her son..wtf?!?!

I hear you fairlycrazy23. I think the bully and his mother should be apologizing to Casey and his family. I also hope Casey's family sues the school and the bully's family for the school not doing something about this bully months ahead, and for harassment and physical harm committed by the bully himself.

The kid is lucky he didn't end up in the morgue.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Mar 17, 2011 17:08:59 GMT -5 @ty said:

PBP, that was some fight and I certainly applaud you for standing up in your defense and your parents as well. Sometimes these bullies push people a bit to far and later regret it. Especially after they get their azz beat. Bullying comes in many forms and I have witnessed plenty of people on the Internet boards stalking, harassing and bullying people as well. Some people will have to learn the hard way if they don't get the first three messages to leave them alone. 3 strikes and then you (the bully) is out. That's my motto.

The real problem wasn't the bully- though he definitely learned a lesson. The real problem was the adults-- all the way around. Two schools took no action. I don't blame myself, or him. We were kids. I mainly blame the schools, and in particular the teacher that had every opportunity to step in, and refused.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Mar 17, 2011 18:42:28 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

I saw where the bullys mom wants casey to apologize to her son..wtf?!?!

My bully's mom and older brother were the same way. That's why they're bullies.

[ty]

My bully's mom and older brother were the same way. That's why they're bullies.

It's sad that some people are raising kid that shouldn't be allowed to have them. It seem apparent that this mother is probably one of them considering how she is demanding an apology form the kid her son was victimizing and bullying. I'm thinking that maybe that whole family is in need of some psychological help of some kind. If they do not get any help for the bullying kid, later down the line he's going to end up killing someone or someone might end up killing him.

This is a wake-up all for all schools and parents to start getting involved in your kids lives and knowing what they are doing at school and throughout the day.

As a kid growing up, I was fortunate to have had a full time parent (my mother) that was there to watch over us and make us behave. Unfortunately, today we have a world full of latch-key kids that have no parental supervision and are running wild on the streets and taking that behavior to the schools they have to attend.

I personally feel that if you are going to bring a kid in to the world, then one of the parents should always be there to monitor them for when they get out of school and on the weekends.

[straydog]

If he did accidently paralyzed or even killed this bully, no judge or jury would convict him of a crime. He was just defending himself.

[straydog]

KK wrote:
If he did accidently paralyzed or even killed this bully, no judge or jury would convict him of a crime. He was just defending himself.

It seems to me that for the most part, the pacifists have taken over our public school system. I don't think that giving over aggressive kids 'sensitivity training' is going to do much good; their aggression is probably in their genes.

And because of that, we have situations like this. The big guy obviously did not seem to know the mechanics of boxing, or even how to apply a simple police style arm-bar. So he just did what he knew; use his superior strength to pick the bully up and slam him down.

I think that any anti-bullying legislation should include boxing training for all the kids-boys and girls. After all, we have wrestling in schools, right? Even though some might disagree with teaching kids boxing-at least police style akido, so they could at least attempt to put a stop to something like that so that we don't have a repeat of what we saw in the video, and the next bully ends up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.