No fruits no veggies for me!

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 13:31:09 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Apr 5, 2016 12:36:17 GMT -5 tloonya said:

is this a good thing?

And somehow I can't use it or anything BUT burgers. Too strong.

And chicken one not even close to the steak one. I think steak one

is their perfection!

Also they started creamy sauces...YUMM!

And those bags with marinades...easy, clean and taste awesome!

Specially Pot Roast one...

I have one sitting there in a bag marinating for tomorrow.

those prepackaged marinades are so full of sodium and horrible crap for you.

If you are working on being healthier, actually making the marinade from scratch is much better for you. 

My husband has cooked with them before and each time I've eaten what he's made I blow up like a balloon!  You say you cook from scratch... so you shouldn't have a problem throwing together a marinade. 

Was any law suit filed?

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 14:12:28 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 13:59:39 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

I'm a meat and potatoes guy.

French fries are a vegetable, right?

Of course! What else would they be? Fast food? Silly. Plus there is a KETCHUP!

I think they are good for you when you do not eat more than 2 full plates at the time.

Then they become not so healthy.

greg,

honestly how does your dinner looks like?

Few steaks, case of beer and French how much fries?

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 5, 2016 13:49:08 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 13:27:48 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

I love fruit, but i am extremely picky about vegetables. I have a few that I like... but most I don't. 
However, I am a grown up and eat vegetables anyway.
there are many that I don't like, but they aren't so horrible that I can't eat them. so i just put on my big girl pants and do what is good for me. 


If i ate bread potatoes meat and pizza as the basis for my diet... I'd be morbidly obese. 

Not if you ate them in moderations. I don't need 4 slices anymore, I am satisfied with 1. No crust.

This is why all diets are failing because people go hungry and angry and later off the hook - whole pizza goes down like children to school! We need fat! Fat free is crap! Blue milk is crap! I better drink a few sips of half and half that skimmed. But of course they would prefer pitcher of the skim.

My eating habits are just like now 1 piece of popeye chicken, few bites of a bisquit and mash potato a few bites. All together could be placed on the palm of my hand.

And my body will process it as supposed to because I am not stuffed as a Christmas goose!

I'd still be vastly overweight. Even if I eat those foods and eat 1400 calories a day, I gain weight. Quality and macro nutrients matter.
I can't eat crap and not feel like crap/ gain weight. 
Maybe it works better for others, but not for me. 

[weltschmerz]

You must be constipated up to your earlobes.

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 14:26:53 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Apr 5, 2016 13:49:08 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Not if you ate them in moderations. I don't need 4 slices anymore, I am satisfied with 1. No crust.

This is why all diets are failing because people go hungry and angry and later off the hook - whole pizza goes down like children to school! We need fat! Fat free is crap! Blue milk is crap! I better drink a few sips of half and half that skimmed. But of course they would prefer pitcher of the skim.

My eating habits are just like now 1 piece of popeye chicken, few bites of a bisquit and mash potato a few bites. All together could be placed on the palm of my hand.

And my body will process it as supposed to because I am not stuffed as a Christmas goose!

I'd still be vastly overweight. Even if I eat those foods and eat 1400 calories a day, I gain weight. Quality and macro nutrients matter.
I can't eat crap and not feel like crap/ gain weight. 
Maybe it works better for others, but not for me. 

Hon, it is not calories! If you ate a stick of butter? Imagine how many calories in there!

I don't know but I think a lot!

So it would not stretch your stomach. It would lay there melting quietly killing your hunger,

however what do you think will make you obese? These few spoons of fat in your stomach?

And NO I did not meant it literally.

I had just talked to many people after my weight loss who weren't realizing that

coffee with cream

apple

candy

cookie

cereal and yogurt

is SHITLOAD of food to insert in your just awaken poor stomach in the morning!

When I told her imagine how much food you had just gobbled she had almost passed out.

'I didn't think about it like that!'...

Then lunch...then she loves full dinner! And cookie and some candy by TV.

Good diet!

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 14:31:05 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

You must be constipated up to your earlobes.

I am afraid to jinx it. Like a clock!  After each food intake.

[Deleted]

Fresh fruits and veggies are about 90% of my diet. I love 'em all, especially the weird one like turnip greens and Brussels sprouts.

Where Loony and I agree: if your body is used to only small servings of the heavy, fatty stuff, a little goes a long way. I can eat three French fries or one piece of cake slathered with frosting and be happy. A friend on FB who's always struggled with weight posted last week from an ice cream parlor where she and her husband went after having pizza at another restaurant. I had to sit on my hands to keep from expressing my
opinion. Heck, I wouldn't be able to
sleep after that much heavy food.

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 5, 2016 14:35:39 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:26:53 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

I'd still be vastly overweight. Even if I eat those foods and eat 1400 calories a day, I gain weight. Quality and macro nutrients matter.
I can't eat crap and not feel like crap/ gain weight. 
Maybe it works better for others, but not for me. 

Hon, it is not calories! If you ate a stick of butter? Imagine how many calories in there!

I don't know but I think a lot!

So it would not stretch your stomach. It would lay there melting quietly killing your hunger,

however what do you think will make you obese? These few spoons of fat in your stomach?

And NO I did not meant it literally.

I had just talked to many people after my weight loss who weren't realizing that

coffee with cream

apple

candy

cookie

cereal and yogurt

is SHITLOAD of food to insert in your just awaken poor stomach in the morning!

When I told her imagine how much food you had just gobbled she had almost passed out.

'I didn't think about it like that!'...

Then lunch...then she loves full dinner! And cookie and some candy by TV.

Good diet!

You realize that obesity doesn't come from the literal size of your stomach right? but from the fat cells that are outside your stomach and all over your body?

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories. 

even in "moderation" if i subsisted on that, i'd be enormous and feel like crap 25/7

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 14:41:38 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:35:39 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Hon, it is not calories! If you ate a stick of butter? Imagine how many calories in there!

I don't know but I think a lot!

So it would not stretch your stomach. It would lay there melting quietly killing your hunger,

however what do you think will make you obese? These few spoons of fat in your stomach?

And NO I did not meant it literally.

I had just talked to many people after my weight loss who weren't realizing that

coffee with cream

apple

candy

cookie

cereal and yogurt

is SHITLOAD of food to insert in your just awaken poor stomach in the morning!

When I told her imagine how much food you had just gobbled she had almost passed out.

'I didn't think about it like that!'...

Then lunch...then she loves full dinner! And cookie and some candy by TV.

Good diet!

You realize that obesity doesn't come from the literal size of your stomach right? but from the fat cells that are outside your stomach and all over your body?

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories. 

Hon! It is opinion not the fact!

If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none.

All this is studies and all.

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories.

I said calories doesn't matter! Pizza  300? Fine. Chicken 500? Who cares?

But you can have 1000 calories meal where amount of food would be 3 times more.

And when it all amount will stretch your stomach walls they would let anything in.

3lb, 5lb of food and this is where we go to obesity. More in your stomach - more needs

to be evenly distributed around your face!

But that little fat stick of butter would be gone by now without causing obesity.

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 14:36:44 GMT -5 @athena53 said:

Fresh fruits and veggies are about 90% of my diet. I love 'em all, especially the weird one like turnip greens and Brussels sprouts.

Where Loony and I agree: if your body is used to only small servings of the heavy, fatty stuff, a little goes a long way. I can eat three French fries or one piece of cake slathered with frosting and be happy. A friend on FB who's always struggled with weight posted last week from an ice cream parlor where she and her husband went after having pizza at another restaurant. I had to sit on my hands to keep from expressing my
opinion. Heck, I wouldn't be able to
sleep after that much heavy food.

People ACTUALLY do post where they go eat like if anyone cared

[tloonya]

When I hear 'I can't live without sweets' - the response: EAT your cake but do yourself a favor...before OR after the cake do not stuff your face with sandwich! Or do not eat cake AFTER 32oz steak!

You CAN have best of both worlds. 50/50 or 20/30/50! Just use your brains!

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 5, 2016 14:52:31 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:41:38 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

You realize that obesity doesn't come from the literal size of your stomach right? but from the fat cells that are outside your stomach and all over your body?

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories. 

Hon! It is opinion not the fact!

If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none.

All this is studies and all.

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories.

I said calories doesn't matter! Pizza  300? Fine. Chicken 500? Who cares?

But you can have 1000 calories meal where amount of food would be 3 times more.

And when it all amount will stretch your stomach walls they would let anything in.

3lb, 5lb of food and this is where we go to obesity. More in your stomach - more needs

to be evenly distributed around your face!

But that little fat stick of butter would be gone by now without causing obesity.

bwahahahahaha  

so 500 calories in pizza wont make me fat because it is less than 2 slices

but a 300 calorie salad full of veggies and protein that is double the amount of food will make me fat?

I don't think you know how science works.

yeah, sorry- i'm not taking dietary advice from someone who subsists on pizza, bread, potatoes, meat and fried chicken

i don't often eat "crap" so i could never sit down and shove 4 slices of pizza in my face. I can eat CRAP in small portions and still gain weight, because it is crap and that is how my body reacts to a big ol' piles of process food and carbs. If you can eat pizza and bread and friend chicken in moderation every day and still be healthy- more power to ya! 

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 15:05:24 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:52:31 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Hon! It is opinion not the fact!

If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none.

All this is studies and all.

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories.

I said calories doesn't matter! Pizza  300? Fine. Chicken 500? Who cares?

But you can have 1000 calories meal where amount of food would be 3 times more.

And when it all amount will stretch your stomach walls they would let anything in.

3lb, 5lb of food and this is where we go to obesity. More in your stomach - more needs

to be evenly distributed around your face!

But that little fat stick of butter would be gone by now without causing obesity.

bwahahahahaha  

so 500 calories in pizza wont make me fat because it is less than 2 slices

but a 300 calorie salad full of veggies and protein that is double the amount of food will make me fat?

I don't think you know how science works.

yeah, sorry- i'm not taking dietary advice from someone who subsists on pizza, bread, potatoes, meat and fried chicken

i don't often eat "crap" so i could never sit down and shove 4 slices of pizza in my face. I can eat CRAP in small portions and still gain weight, because it is crap and that is how my body reacts to a big ol' piles of process food and carbs. If you can eat pizza and bread and friend chicken in moderation every day and still be healthy- more power to ya! 

If science know how it works there would be a solution to yor issue.

How about man who ate McD for a month and lost weight?

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 5, 2016 15:12:46 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 15:05:24 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

bwahahahahaha  

so 500 calories in pizza wont make me fat because it is less than 2 slices

but a 300 calorie salad full of veggies and protein that is double the amount of food will make me fat?

I don't think you know how science works.

yeah, sorry- i'm not taking dietary advice from someone who subsists on pizza, bread, potatoes, meat and fried chicken

i don't often eat "crap" so i could never sit down and shove 4 slices of pizza in my face. I can eat CRAP in small portions and still gain weight, because it is crap and that is how my body reacts to a big ol' piles of process food and carbs. If you can eat pizza and bread and friend chicken in moderation every day and still be healthy- more power to ya! 

If science know how it works there would be a solution to yor issue.

How about man who ate McD for a month and lost weight?

My issue? I have no issue. I don't need to eat processed foods and fast foods. I honestly do not crave or want them regularly at all. Never have. 
 
science has a solution to the general obesity epidemic ... people just don't want to eat properly. They'd rather eat pizza and fried chicken and other crap from packages than a pile of vegetables. 

[greeniis10]

Personally, I believe in eating lots of fruits and vegetables and as few processed foods as possible, but in tloonya's defense, she IS right that you can eat the things she listed but just in very small quantities. Some of us aren't big eaters. I can only eat little bits at a time, so if I ate the same things she did I would be satisfied with the amount. But personally, I prefer a more nutrient-dense diet.

[tloonya]

Apr 5, 2016 15:34:27 GMT -5 greeniis10 said:

Personally, I believe in eating lots of fruits and vegetables and as few processed foods as possible, but in tloonya's defense, she IS right that you can eat the things she listed but just in very small quantities. Some of us aren't big eaters. I can only eat little bits at a time, so if I ate the same things she did I would be satisfied with the amount. But personally, I prefer a more nutrient-dense diet.

Like I said I am cooking from scratch daily BUT I NOW can eat crap whenever I feel like it.

Today I felt like it. Tomorrow I am baking pot roast with veggies for those in a family who likes them.

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 5, 2016 15:34:27 GMT -5 greeniis10 said:

Personally, I believe in eating lots of fruits and vegetables and as few processed foods as possible, but in tloonya's defense, she IS right that you can eat the things she listed but just in very small quantities. Some of us aren't big eaters. I can only eat little bits at a time, so if I ate the same things she did I would be satisfied with the amount. But personally, I prefer a more nutrient-dense diet.

Oh, I agree that you can... but if that is all one subsist on how can one not feel sluggish and rundown? I need the vitamins and nutrients that come from plants in my life.

However... if I eat bread, or pizza or anything carb loaded, even in small portions, regularly... I gain weight. It happens to people with insulin resistance.


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[mamasita99]

If I'm honest I eat bread, pizza, carb-heavy foods, several times a week. Not every single meal, and not even every day. But yes, I  do eat those kinds of food. The majority of my diet is low carb, high protein, (and I drink a ton of water and coffee), so that's probably how I'm not 300lb. I eat veggies because I know they are good for me, and they are a healthy way to fill up, but sure, I'd rather eat a donut.  If I wanted to lose weight the easiest way for me would be to cut out the breads and sweets.  They are kind of like crack!  

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

<The fruit stand lady doesn't like fruit. The fruit stand lady wasn't successful at her business. Hmmmm.>

[weltschmerz]

Apr 5, 2016 14:52:31 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:41:38 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

You realize that obesity doesn't come from the literal size of your stomach right? but from the fat cells that are outside your stomach and all over your body?

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories. 

Hon! It is opinion not the fact!

If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none.

All this is studies and all.

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories.

I said calories doesn't matter! Pizza  300? Fine. Chicken 500? Who cares?

But you can have 1000 calories meal where amount of food would be 3 times more.

And when it all amount will stretch your stomach walls they would let anything in.

3lb, 5lb of food and this is where we go to obesity. More in your stomach - more needs

to be evenly distributed around your face!

But that little fat stick of butter would be gone by now without causing obesity.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[gregintenn]

Apr 5, 2016 14:26:20 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:12:28 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Of course! What else would they be? Fast food? Silly. Plus there is a KETCHUP!

I think they are good for you when you do not eat more than 2 full plates at the time.

Then they become not so healthy.

greg,

honestly how does your dinner looks like?

Few steaks, case of beer and French how much fries?

Supersize it, Baylee!!!

[swamp]

I'll eat just about anything b

[tloonya]

Apr 6, 2016 2:53:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Apr 5, 2016 14:52:31 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Hon! It is opinion not the fact!

If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none.

All this is studies and all.

and you realize that 1400 calories from the food you listed is a not a large portion of those foods in one day. 1 slice of pizza has, at the very least 300 calories. the partial fried chicken meal you ate was easily 500 calories.

I said calories doesn't matter! Pizza  300? Fine. Chicken 500? Who cares?

But you can have 1000 calories meal where amount of food would be 3 times more.

And when it all amount will stretch your stomach walls they would let anything in.

3lb, 5lb of food and this is where we go to obesity. More in your stomach - more needs

to be evenly distributed around your face!

But that little fat stick of butter would be gone by now without causing obesity.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You sound just like those people who come to me for a 'consultation' on how to lose weight and I tell them you can eat chicken with a skin on and they tell me 'you can't lose weight like that' and I come out in my leggings and high heel boots 'excuse me?'...who is asking whom? You, who's stomach hitting the floor because you 'don't eat anything' and your third chin covers your boobs so like you have 4 tits?

Oh, brother!

[weltschmerz]

Again....you have no idea what you're talking about.

"If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none."

Of course they know where obesity is coming from. It's not an unexplained phenomenon.

Secondly, the very idea that a stick of bitter is better for you than a big salad because it has less volume is the height of absurdity.

[sarcasticgirl]

Apr 10, 2016 12:23:28 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Again....you have no idea what you're talking about.

"If anyone KNEW where obesity is coming from - there would be none."

Of course they know where obesity is coming from. It's not an unexplained phenomenon.

Secondly, the very idea that a stick of bitter is better for you than a big salad because it has less volume is the height of absurdity.

But she is wearing leggings and high heel boots. Clearly that must mean her point is valid.

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[Pants]

I mean, she does have a point about your stomach expanding if you over eat consistently. That's the entire idea behind lap-band surgery. However, I think she took that basic premise and took it to a weird place. Per usual.

[NancysSummerSip]

Apr 5, 2016 14:31:05 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

You must be constipated up to your earlobes.

You just had to go there, right? I was thinking the same thing, BTW. But hey, Metameucil is in a green bottle. That makes it a veggie, doesn't it?

Given her confession, we may also have a better idea of why TLoony's Produce, Inc. didn't do so well. It's a bit of a stretch to sell a product you neither believe in nor are particularly passionate about, especially when you think your customers are not smart and are all out to cheat you.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

One sentence that explains so much.