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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 18, 2016 12:08:00 GMT -5
How do you know if you are?
I had a small Sonic Blast yesterday and it was like WW3 in my intestines. I've had ice cream recently and I didn't have the same reaction. I don't think I'm intolerant so I tested it last night by having pizza. I don't remember how many trips to the bathroom I took, but it was a lot. Today I had two crackers with Allouette (because I'm a sadist apparently... And I LOVE cheese). I'm getting a bit uncomfortable now and don't want to eat anything else.
So what say you?
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 18, 2016 12:12:44 GMT -5
I say maybe. I am to a certain extent as well but different dairy products make me react differently so it could be combined with something else. I know if I eat ice cream with other food, I'm okay. If I eat it alone, I'm going to suffer. If I mix milk with cereal, fine. A glass of milk? Death.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Mar 18, 2016 12:17:10 GMT -5
I'm the same as Zib. Dairy on its own is problematic at my age - and when I was younger, it wasn't. Mixed with something substantial, like whole grain carbs, it's fine. There are a number of reasons it happens; this is from the Boston Globe: www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2013/09/22/health-answers-why-some-people-become-lactose-intolerant-they-age/kVFLdq2fL784gybRiIfkvM/story.html: Q. Why do some people become lactose intolerant as they age?
A. All of us are born with the ability to make an enzyme called lactase, which helps our small intestines digest the otherwise unwieldy sugar lactose found in milk. Many people’s lactase levels decline when they’re a few years old, a hardwired phenomenon that depends on a person’s genetic background — most Northern Europeans maintain their lactase levels while most people of African and Asian descent don’t. “Most of the world’s population has low lactase levels as adults — this is definitely not a disease,” says Richard Grand, a gastroenterologist at Boston Children’s Hospital.
Once your lactase levels are set in childhood, they don’t seem to change as you age. But Grand explains that lactose intolerance — bloating, cramping, gas, or diarrhea after consuming milk products — is more complex. “There are multiple reasons for someone to have symptoms of lactose intolerance that are not due to lactose,” he says. The culprit may be fast movement of food through the digestive system that’s caused by other foods the lactose is eaten with, or by a genetic predisposition. Digestion can also slow down or speed up with age, which is why people notice more digestive disturbances as they get older.
Grand says that many people with low lactase can still digest some milk because bacteria in their large intestines take over the task of digesting lactose. For those who feel they truly can’t digest it, he recommends calcium and vitamin D supplements to prevent deficiencies.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 18, 2016 12:35:04 GMT -5
A friend if mine thought she had a lactose intolerance for years. However, it was not until she took gluten out if her diet that she realized it wasn't the dairy, but the bread that she usually ate with it.
When we looked back, the meals we had with cheese or milk always had some bread in it, and one of her worst episodes was when we were out for dinner and the broccoli cheese soup she had set up WWIII in her gut. The soup was thickened with bread!
You might want to start a food diary to try to track this down.
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Post by quince on Mar 18, 2016 13:07:41 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if cheese does it for you and not ice-cream- I could swear cheese tends to have less lactose because of the process of becoming...well, cheese. Icecream is just frozen! (Although often involves less milk products/cream than expected.)
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 18, 2016 13:09:28 GMT -5
gluten will kill you
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Post by lexxy703 on Mar 18, 2016 13:09:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty lactose intolerant but didn't realize it until college when I lived on salad with ranch dressing & ice cream. My school had a dairy & made their own dressing & ice cream so delicious.
I can't eat ice cream, milk, creamy sauces like Alfredo or cream based soup. Cheese & yogurt do not bother me.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 18, 2016 13:19:00 GMT -5
I say maybe a change would help you. I started getting cramps after eating cereal in the morning so I switched to lactose free milk. Ice cream at night keeps me up so I gave it up. I have no problem with cheese.
BTW lactose free milk has a shelf life of about 3 months. It's high temp pasteurized because of the low product demand.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Mar 18, 2016 13:20:30 GMT -5
I actually have a dairy allergy... but usually ice cream and cheese are ok in smaller quantities.
Usually a doctor would recommend you do an elimination diet and slowly introduce things back in. It's a PITA but gets easier if you keep a food diary.
I did it when I was nursing. (to no avail)
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Post by Tiny on Mar 18, 2016 13:40:02 GMT -5
A friend is lactose intolerant - has been all her life. Generally "ice cream" and cheese and yogurt aren't a major problem (when she doesn't binge). A glass of Milk is a HUGE problem (as is Jello pudding, eggnog, real cream in her coffee, real whipped cream frosting, etc...) .
I would think that a Sonic Blast doesn't have a lot of lactose in it... maybe there was some ingredient in it that didn't agree with you??
Maybe it's not the Sonic Blast - but something else you ate? Food poisoning usually happens after 12 hours... some kinds up to 3 days. Have any sprouts on a take out sandwich/salad? Or maybe used a Bagged Salad at home? Or maybe ordered a "mayo" based sandwich - tuna or egg salad?? It's not necessarily the mayo that the problem. Or maybe ate at a casual/fast food restaurant? (I assume you had the Blast via a drive thru)
Have you recently bumped up the amount of fiber in your diet? or have you started eating High Fiber (Fiber One is notorious for gas) breakfast bars or energy bars? They have chicory root (or inulin) as the added in fiber. The big increase in fiber along with the kind of fiber either gives people gas or diarrhea.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 18, 2016 13:51:34 GMT -5
I actually have a dairy allergy... but usually ice cream and cheese are ok in smaller quantities. Usually a doctor would recommend you do an elimination diet and slowly introduce things back in. It's a PITA but gets easier if you keep a food diary. I did it when I was nursing. (to no avail) At the risk of sounding like an alarmist but genuinely simply wanting to spread the word: one can develop an allergy to a food at any age. Symptoms of food allergies do, indeed, include GI issues. Add in one more symptom -- a rash or difficulty breathing --and you have anaphylaxis. (If you develop additional symptoms, call 911 -- things can escalate in a heartbeat). The treatment for milk allergy is the same as that for lactose intolerance (although that changes with the onset of anaphylaxis): avoidance of the food in question. A skin test and a blood test can diagnose/rule out an allergy.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 18, 2016 13:53:43 GMT -5
Also, there is a weird virus going around that is a mix of diarrhea and exhaustion. Maybe it's not the food at all...
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 18, 2016 15:49:19 GMT -5
Over the past couple of years I have noticed that there are days that a bowl of cereal causes gastronomic distress, but other days, not so much. It seems to go in waves. I am in denial that I would have to give up cereal and milk, much less the more drastic step of giving up gluten or dairy. What a nightmare.
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Post by engineerdoe on Mar 18, 2016 15:56:37 GMT -5
Let your system settle a bit before you test anymore foods. That is probably why the pizza and cheese and crackers went south on you. I have to limit the cream based sauces that I used to love. With the Sonic Blast (i've never had one so really don't know) is it using fake sugar? That upsets my system too. I hear that hard cheese can be easier on you than soft cheese but I like my port wine cheddar spread on crackers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 16:08:50 GMT -5
I'm lactose intolerant, but it goes in spells. I can't drink milk. I can tolerate cheese, cream sauces, etc. . . . until suddenly I can't. It seems like it builds up or something, which is probably exactly what it does. My body probably produces some of the enzyme but in insufficient quantitites. So it reaches a point, and I suffer for a short period. Then it starts over.
I can absolutely tolerate yogurt. The process of becoming yogurt is part of that. So I eat frozen yogurt as well as the others a lot.
I cannot tolerate ice cream. I read somewhere that that is partially the temperature. The cold makes your stomach contract so coupled with the digestive issue, it is a no-go. So I am surprised you can tolerate that and not cheese.
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Post by mroped on Mar 18, 2016 16:46:10 GMT -5
So will apple sauce!( but only if you inject it in your blood stream)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 17:30:39 GMT -5
I am lactose intolerant, seems many of us are. I can't drink regular milk, so I use lactose free. I was miserable until I switched to lactose free milk. Even the little bit of milk I put in my coffee made me sick. I don't seem so have a problem with most cheeses or ice cream, but that is probably because I only eat those in small quantities. Cream cheese and cheese cake are 2 things that will make me sick pretty easily.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 18, 2016 18:32:47 GMT -5
My son was lactose intolerant as a child.....Bloated stomach and pain. The doctor explained that there were a load of different proteins in milk... and he could be intolerant to one...or many Some could be made more easily digestable through cooking. We eliminated all dairy from his diet and just introduced things gradually.... We waited for a few days to see if there was a reaction. If t doesn't agree with you...don't eat it I have had gall bladder problems.....so haven't eaten fatty foods or much dairy...for as long as I can remember. There are plenty of other things I can eat.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 18, 2016 18:34:47 GMT -5
But... But... Pizza!!! ..... And ice cream!!!! And cream cheese!!!! I don't want to live anymore.
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Post by Opti on Mar 18, 2016 18:46:16 GMT -5
But... But... Pizza!!! ..... And ice cream!!!! And cream cheese!!!! I don't want to live anymore. Yes, it can suck. I don't think I have issues with lactose, I think for me its the milk protein itself. Every once in awhile I buy a small bit of cheese because I miss it ... then I make my sinuses really unhappy because of it ... and stop eating the cheese.
There are decent non dairy desserts and IMO OK fake cream cheese. Real cheese is significantly better than fake cheese. Daiya isn't bad, but it obviously was created to keep some of us alive instead of healthy.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 18, 2016 19:05:28 GMT -5
A friend is lactose intolerant - has been all her life. Generally "ice cream" and cheese and yogurt aren't a major problem (when she doesn't binge). A glass of Milk is a HUGE problem (as is Jello pudding, eggnog, real cream in her coffee, real whipped cream frosting, etc...) .
I would think that a Sonic Blast doesn't have a lot of lactose in it... maybe there was some ingredient in it that didn't agree with you??
Maybe it's not the Sonic Blast - but something else you ate? Food poisoning usually happens after 12 hours... some kinds up to 3 days. Have any sprouts on a take out sandwich/salad? Or maybe used a Bagged Salad at home? Or maybe ordered a "mayo" based sandwich - tuna or egg salad?? It's not necessarily the mayo that the problem. Or maybe ate at a casual/fast food restaurant? (I assume you had the Blast via a drive thru)
Have you recently bumped up the amount of fiber in your diet? or have you started eating High Fiber (Fiber One is notorious for gas) breakfast bars or energy bars? They have chicory root (or inulin) as the added in fiber. The big increase in fiber along with the kind of fiber either gives people gas or diarrhea.
I've been eating a bran cereal for like 2 weeks and it hasn't bothered me. (I use almond milk in place of milk). Yogurt has always been fine. I had Ben & Jerrys 2-3 weeks ago with no issues. It would be weird to suddenly develop this but I guess it happens.
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Post by sesfw on Mar 18, 2016 21:52:14 GMT -5
I have lactose free milk with my cereal in the morning. Before chemo, and radiation across my digestive system nothing bothered me in eating.
Now it's lactose free milk, no solid shortening (as in cookies and pie crust), no carbonation.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 19, 2016 9:37:36 GMT -5
I used to drink all kinds of milk when I was younger. I started having problems with it around 30. I also have problems with pizza hut pizza because of the grease, not the cheese. My first indication of a problem was bad reactions to sour cream (this is the absolute worst). I could probably still drink a little milk if eaten with a bunch of pancakes to soak it up. Cheddar cheese seems to give me problems, but most other cheese that I like to eat don't. It sucks, as it seems to get worse as I age. I also get problems from drinking cola, and now black tea, now that I'm middle age. DH and I were talking, and he thinks it might be from the caffeine, which I admit I'm addicted to.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 19, 2016 16:01:09 GMT -5
Just ate a chocolate chip cookie. What? I've been good all day! No cheese on my black bean burger and no milk on my cereal at breakfast!
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 19, 2016 16:23:25 GMT -5
My lactose sensitivity comes and goes. I am backing off of yogurt for a while. I use cashew milk, I can't believe it's not butter. I think I have wheat belly but haven't stopped bread entirely.
Kraft cheese is lactose free. Very fine print on the front.
A friend's husband is lactose intolerant. She gets a pizza with all the toppings but not cheese. She puts Kraft cheese on.
Another friend and I were comparing stomach complaints. I told her I had switched to bottled water because it was so bad. That worked. DH said my Brita filter needed a new filter and cleaning. I drank one glass out of the clean Brita; and wham, stomach issue again. Friend switched to bottled water. Her stomach is better. She can eat glutten products and dairy again.
There are some soy products that are lactose free. More expensive but they do make an ice cream and yogurt.
Lactose intolerance and glutten problems can be gotten around by looking for the correct products.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 20, 2016 8:01:06 GMT -5
I have no response to "use Kraft cheese on pizza". That's so wrong on so many different levels. I'll just reduce my pizza consumption or prepare for tummy Armageddon when I do eat it.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 20, 2016 8:11:46 GMT -5
Maybe it wasn't the cheese? Pepperoni I nave? Or go light on the cheese.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 20, 2016 8:12:11 GMT -5
Pepperoni maybe. Sheesh.
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Post by lurkyloo on Mar 20, 2016 10:48:46 GMT -5
I have no response to "use Kraft cheese on pizza". That's so wrong on so many different levels. I'll just reduce my pizza consumption or prepare for tummy Armageddon when I do eat it. Really? Maybe she was just talking about Velveeta, which would be gross, but I don't see what the problem is with using Kraft shredded mozzarella on pizza is. You can also make your own cheese with the right kit--you need a thermometer and enzyme tablets at a minimum. It might be possible to make your own cheese using Lactaid? A friend sent me a cheese making kit a few years ago; you could google ricki the cheese queen and see what comes up. Anyway, you should probably start by figuring out if it's the lactose (a sugar/enzyme deficiency issue) or the proteins in milk, which would be an allergy issue. Bacterial processing (i.e. cheese, yogurt) transforms some proteins but no idea which or whether they're relevant to your specific sensitivity. Similarly, some ice creams or custards are cooked before freezing which could denature proteins and possibly change an allergy response. I have a friend with a serious allergy to dairy; after she cut it out she found not only did tummy issues go away but she'd had nasty dandruff that suddenly disappeared too. She can't even eat waffles because most of them contain malt.
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Post by lurkyloo on Mar 20, 2016 10:50:39 GMT -5
Also, there is a weird virus going around that is a mix of diarrhea and exhaustion. Maybe it's not the food at all... We just had that this week...interesting that it's spread so far (MA(?) to MD) No fun.
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