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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 11, 2016 13:29:47 GMT -5
So question, what do you do when an application says list your ENTIRE work history. Does that mean DH has to list OS even though he only worked there a week? Then there are a couple other jobs years back that he worked at for six months or less.
We can go all the way back to his first job at 16 if we have to, we have all the information.
However DH is concerned if he has to list OS and the less than a year jobs he will be knocked out of the running. I think the six month jobs are old enough now they wouldn't care, not since he can show he spent several years at the last two employers.
I'm concerned if he omits those jobs and they pop up on a background check he won't get the job b/c it says on the application that if you don't disclose everything you face being accused of falsifying your application.
IDK I have never had an application ask for my ENTIRE work history going back to when I was 19. It's always the past 5 years. At most I've been asked to go back seven.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 11, 2016 13:36:08 GMT -5
I only had to go back ten for my background check. Pretty sure I still omitted working as a hostess for a month. If it was an issue no one said anything to me and I got my clearance.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 11, 2016 13:38:52 GMT -5
I wonder how long some people's applications are after they get done listing every job they ever held
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 11, 2016 13:42:51 GMT -5
I would omit OS personally, but that's just me. We go through a bunch of background checks and reference checks, MVR checks, drug testing and credit checks in my line of work and I've never had a problem when omitting a minor detail. I wouldn't omit the other short jobs, but I wouldn't think OS would hurt to omit.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 11, 2016 15:08:56 GMT -5
What a day. Started out so bad, but ended so well. The a.m. interview sucked. Hate, hate, hate recruiters. Just got off the phone with a company about 15 minutes from the house, though. They want me - a lot! Want to make a decision tomorrow, and want me to be one of their two final candidates. The interview is at 9 a.m. They were impressed with my resume and experience. It's a national company, with offices in Canada as well. Well-established, and the manager I spoke with sounds very nice. Y'all will cross your fingers for me, right?
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 11, 2016 15:37:56 GMT -5
Y'all will cross your fingers for me, right? Fingers and toes crossed!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 11, 2016 15:49:34 GMT -5
Thanks, and BTW...a company I interviewed with has re-posted the job I interviewed for. Apparently, the person they hired instead of me did not work out. The story behind this: I came recommended personally by my ex-boss; following the interview, the owner informed me he had decided not to hire anyone because he had decided against adding staff. Then four days later, he posted the job (and I know it was the same company because it was not a blind ad). So he wasted my time and lied. I'm kinda tempted to send my resume again and write, "YOU'RE A SORRY LYING JACKASS FOR NOT HIRING ME IN THE FIRST PLACE!" on the bottom of it.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 11, 2016 15:52:15 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015 I totally would omit OS from the list. It was so short it would never show up as a missing item. However, if hired DH has to make sure he never talks about his horrible 1 week experience --- you never know who is listening and talking because "their BIL little sister's boyfriend" would really like your job...
NancysSummerSip fingers and toes crossed for you
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Post by shanendoah on Feb 11, 2016 15:58:32 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015 - I would not list OS. I have a company I worked for for maybe 2 months that I don't list anywhere, not even when asked for my entire work history. In the state I lived/worked in at the time, there is a 90 day trial period during which either the company or the employee can end the relationship with no notice, no cause, no reason other than they want to, and my employment ended during that trial phase. I have since then taken jobs that do require background checks and it has never come up.
NancysSummerSip - Good luck on the job 15 minutes away.
TheHaitian - I'll say it now because I don't know that I'll necessarily be on again to say it later - Have a great first day at the new job on Monday.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 11, 2016 19:37:10 GMT -5
So question, what do you do when an application says list your ENTIRE work history. Does that mean DH has to list OS even though he only worked there a week? Then there are a couple other jobs years back that he worked at for six months or less. We can go all the way back to his first job at 16 if we have to, we have all the information. However DH is concerned if he has to list OS and the less than a year jobs he will be knocked out of the running. I think the six month jobs are old enough now they wouldn't care, not since he can show he spent several years at the last two employers. I'm concerned if he omits those jobs and they pop up on a background check he won't get the job b/c it says on the application that if you don't disclose everything you face being accused of falsifying your application. IDK I have never had an application ask for my ENTIRE work history going back to when I was 19. It's always the past 5 years. At most I've been asked to go back seven. Yikes. That's usually for a security clearance.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 11, 2016 20:10:25 GMT -5
I've applied for a few adminstrative jobs with the local county over the years. They always asked for every job, but I only go back a reasonable period of time. Sorry, I don't remember the details for the hostess job and lifeguard jobs I had 25 years ago, and neither place exists any more anyway. Even with leaving that info less than complete, I still managed to get a phone interview last year, so I guess it must have been okay.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 11, 2016 20:59:18 GMT -5
Ratchets Didn't you buy a house and settle your family where you are now? Are you considering a move for a job?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 11, 2016 21:11:02 GMT -5
Yes. Since my wife can't get a decent job here but also doesn't want to move, the plan apparently is that I'm going to get a job somewhere and support two households. Until she decides to move or I decide to get a divorce, whichever comes first. Pretty sure I know which option that will be... I'm clearly doing something wrong going to work everyday!!
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 11, 2016 21:14:34 GMT -5
Sorry Ratchets . I was hoping life would be great for you and your family after retiring from the military. Stay in touch my friend.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 11, 2016 21:58:57 GMT -5
So I went to the interview for the job I said I was going to lose it at if they asked me to be an agent. They actually asked me to manage and train agents. I can do that! That's actually what I want to do. So when we left it, a higher up manager is going to meet with me in a few days. Yay!
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 11, 2016 22:07:38 GMT -5
So I went to the interview for the job I said I was going to lose it at if they asked me to be an agent. They actually asked me to manage and train agents. I can do that! That's actually what I want to do. So when we left it, a higher up manager is going to meet with me in a few days. Yay! Yea yea yea for you!!!!
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 11, 2016 22:10:15 GMT -5
Yay Andi!!
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 11, 2016 22:39:35 GMT -5
I still am waiting for an offer for the job that was in my #1 spot. I said I would take the job if they offered it to me. We'll see who has the most money. They're who gets me at the end of the day.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Feb 12, 2016 0:52:23 GMT -5
Yes. Since my wife can't get a decent job here but also doesn't want to move, the plan apparently is that I'm going to get a job somewhere and support two households. Until she decides to move or I decide to get a divorce, whichever comes first. Pretty sure I know which option that will be... I'm sorry. That sounds stressful.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 12, 2016 4:49:34 GMT -5
I'm clearly doing something wrong going to work everyday!! Yes you are. You should find a military guy who is dumb enough to support you for 23 years, then sign his GI bill over to you, and then go to work in another state and support you financially while you live where you want to live with your kids. It's a win-win situation. You don't have to serve a day and you got a GI Bill to cover your college. You didn't have to work a day in your life and you got half a military pension. You're female and your husband is military...that means you get the kids. The other half of that pension goes to child support and alimony. that's a pretty good deal right there. You just got a free college education, a retirement check before you even started working, and a monthly stipend just for waking up in the morning. Oh wait, you had to live with somebody who was in the military...queue up the violins please...while you were being a homemaker you got to go to Paris three times. You went to Oktoberfest, the Olympics, you saw Eric Clapton play in royal albert hall, and you saw the tattoo at Edinburgh Castle. That's pretty nice stuff. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Now that it's over I guess the party is done. You know, it's funny how all these complaints didn't come up then... I'm so sorry. I didn't realize your kids were under 18. Well, if she gets a college degree, she can also get a job. That negates alimony. As far as the rest of it. I know all about half and then some.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 12, 2016 5:07:10 GMT -5
I don't think I'd ever piss off a military guy or s police officer. Neither could end well for me.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 12, 2016 7:49:38 GMT -5
Sorry Ratchets I know that's not how you saw retirement from the military working.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 12, 2016 8:14:29 GMT -5
Sorry Ratchets. Maybe she needs rime to get used to having you around day in and day out? I know they say it's hard when both partners are retired or home because the routines are all messed up. Add in that you're military and probably have seen stuff that I want to pretend doesn't happen, well, I'm thinking it's harder.
Do you have a safe place to vent? Doesn't have to be us but you should have someone or someplace.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 12, 2016 9:02:54 GMT -5
DH and I decided we're only going as far back as 1999. That is 20 years of his work history. Before that a lot of his jobs didn't last long and several of the places no longer exist. It's a freaking meat processing plant not the CIA. I think going back 20 years will be sufficient. If it's not then maybe it's not a place DH wants to work.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 12, 2016 9:06:00 GMT -5
DH and I decided we're only going as far back as 1999. That is 20 years of his work history. Before that a lot of his jobs didn't last long and several of the places no longer exist. It's a freaking meat processing plant not the CIA. I think going back 20 years will be sufficient. If it's not then maybe it's not a place DH wants to work. His resume still needs to fit on one page.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 12, 2016 9:19:54 GMT -5
This is the actual application. They want your entire work history on the application and it advises print more pages if you have. They said if you put down "see resume" that automatically gets your application tossed in the trash.
DH's resume is two pages which I have been told is acceptable b/c of how long he has been in the workforce. The rule that your resume has to be one page is outdated. Don't write a novel but don't leave stuff out either just so you can get it crammed onto one page. If it takes two pages to get everything conveyed it takes two pages.
I was told don't go longer than 3 pages. Nowadays people don't work the same job for 5-10-15 years at a time so it's not as easy to cram everything onto a single sheet of paper.
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Post by Pants on Feb 12, 2016 11:04:36 GMT -5
This is the actual application. They want your entire work history on the application and it advises print more pages if you have. They said if you put down "see resume" that automatically gets your application tossed in the trash. DH's resume is two pages which I have been told is acceptable b/c of how long he has been in the workforce. The rule that your resume has to be one page is outdated. Don't write a novel but don't leave stuff out either just so you can get it crammed onto one page. If it takes two pages to get everything conveyed it takes two pages. I was told don't go longer than 3 pages. Nowadays people don't work the same job for 5-10-15 years at a time so it's not as easy to cram everything onto a single sheet of paper. Nope. Like you said, he works in meat processing not the CIA. Your resume should be relevant experience only, focusing on your accomplishments. There is no need for his resume to be 2 or 3 pages.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 12, 2016 11:10:11 GMT -5
ConAgra called. They left a message. Another Colorado area code, they called at 5:30 pm here so my phone was in the bedroom. Suppose we should probably start keeping my cell phone out at night.
Not sure how keen I am about that one since ConAgra has been undergoing a massive overhaul and is even considering moving its corporate headquarters out of Omaha. They just announced a lot of layoffs/downsizing at the Council Bluffs plant in the paper last week.
Course they still need QAs and this job says they are looking to groom someone for future advancement. DH has the years of experience and they are interested despite him not having a bachelor's.
So it's worth talking to them at least. I don't think it'd be unreasonable to ask about the company's future since it's all public knowledge during the interview. I don't want him to get hired only to be swept up in the next round of layoffs.
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Post by chen35 on Feb 12, 2016 12:41:55 GMT -5
This is the actual application. They want your entire work history on the application and it advises print more pages if you have. They said if you put down "see resume" that automatically gets your application tossed in the trash. DH's resume is two pages which I have been told is acceptable b/c of how long he has been in the workforce. The rule that your resume has to be one page is outdated. Don't write a novel but don't leave stuff out either just so you can get it crammed onto one page. If it takes two pages to get everything conveyed it takes two pages. I was told don't go longer than 3 pages. Nowadays people don't work the same job for 5-10-15 years at a time so it's not as easy to cram everything onto a single sheet of paper. I agree. Most resumes I see these days are two pages.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Feb 12, 2016 12:47:21 GMT -5
ConAgra called. They left a message. Another Colorado area code, they called at 5:30 pm here so my phone was in the bedroom. Suppose we should probably start keeping my cell phone out at night. Not sure how keen I am about that one since ConAgra has been undergoing a massive overhaul and is even considering moving its corporate headquarters out of Omaha. They just announced a lot of layoffs/downsizing at the Council Bluffs plant in the paper last week. Course they still need QAs and this job says they are looking to groom someone for future advancement. DH has the years of experience and they are interested despite him not having a bachelor's. So it's worth talking to them at least. I don't think it'd be unreasonable to ask about the company's future since it's all public knowledge during the interview. I don't want him to get hired only to be swept up in the next round of layoffs. Why are they calling your phone and not DH's? Or a house line?
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