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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 22, 2016 14:20:19 GMT -5
Good luck Carl!
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mmhmm
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 22, 2016 14:25:24 GMT -5
stay calm Carl. Like Beth says, make sure you read and understand it. Thinking of you. Thank you, that is the plan! Thank you everyone, I really appreciate the support! You're welcome, hon. You know darned well you've got this whole group right with you! |
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Post by resolution on Jan 22, 2016 14:43:22 GMT -5
Is it even going to be safe to drive anywhere at 4? I know we are a bit ahead of you in storm progress but it is already snowing pretty good.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jan 22, 2016 14:56:32 GMT -5
Is it even going to be safe to drive anywhere at 4? I know we are a bit ahead of you in storm progress but it is already snowing pretty good. What is it with this employer making him drive in blizzards? |
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 22, 2016 15:01:54 GMT -5
Crossing my fingers for you Carl. The second interview is great news!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 15:24:05 GMT -5
I can't find the explanation of what happened, does anyone mind filling me in? The last I read Carl was on the upper management track with this company.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jan 22, 2016 15:37:43 GMT -5
Is it even going to be safe to drive anywhere at 4? I know we are a bit ahead of you in storm progress but it is already snowing pretty good. What is it with this employer making him drive in blizzards? What sort of awful employer would make someone drive in a blizzard to be told you are fired. If that is what happens, then I think being fired would be a blessing. |
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 22, 2016 15:43:46 GMT -5
So I didn't get the job I wanted. I applied for a bunch more today. Maybe I can go be an assistant for someone until I find the job I really want. I know plenty of agents.
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Post by whoami on Jan 22, 2016 15:48:15 GMT -5
What is it with this employer making him drive in blizzards? What sort of awful employer would make someone drive in a blizzard to be told you are fired. If that is what happens, then I think being fired would be a blessing. Isn't he in Boston? It isn't even doing anything there. DH is flying here from there. No delay. No weather. |
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Post by TheHaitian on Jan 22, 2016 15:49:11 GMT -5
No snow here till tomorrow, and they even think we might not get any. Blizzard is going to miss us! Heading in! Thank you again you guys for all the support, my online friends  |
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jan 22, 2016 15:52:51 GMT -5
In that case it probably is better to just get it over with. Once again, good luck.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2016 15:55:13 GMT -5
I can't find the explanation of what happened, does anyone mind filling me in? The last I read Carl was on the upper management track with this company. Carl was placed on paid admin leave last week for something commonly done by all the managers in the chain. They're either making an example to all managers on this or they are gunning for Carl. |
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TheHaitian
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Post by TheHaitian on Jan 22, 2016 15:57:23 GMT -5
Now I know... I was terminated!
Moving forward and hopefully onward!
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 22, 2016 15:58:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 22, 2016 15:59:14 GMT -5
I'm sorry Carl.
It sounds trite but good riddance. It's ridiculous what they have accused you of in the past few months, nobody should have to put up with that kind of crap.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2016 15:59:23 GMT -5
Now I know... I was terminated! Moving forward and hopefully onward! That was fast. It's not even a one minute meeting! |
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Post by resolution on Jan 22, 2016 15:59:29 GMT -5
Sorry that the news was bad.  |
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 22, 2016 16:00:08 GMT -5
Hugs and sympathy carl.
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Post by flamingo on Jan 22, 2016 16:01:45 GMT -5
So sorry, Carl! As much as it sucks, hopefully knowing the outcome will allow you to move forward with your job search more easily. Good luck to you-I'm sure you'll land on your feet.
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Chocolate Lover
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 22, 2016 16:02:53 GMT -5
Sorry Carl, but good riddance indeed! I know you'll find something better!
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 22, 2016 16:07:42 GMT -5
Sorry @thehaitian. That really, really sucks, but I'm glad you have prospects lined up.
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mmhmm
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 22, 2016 16:08:33 GMT -5
Now I know... I was terminated! Moving forward and hopefully onward! Sorry about the termination. I understand that isn't a pleasant thing even when it's for the best. Fortunately, you've got the attitude it takes to just move forward without looking back and the loss will be theirs. |
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Post by TheHaitian on Jan 22, 2016 16:20:44 GMT -5
I am still considering seeing a lawyer next week!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 16:24:40 GMT -5
TheHaitian, I am sorry. I would definitely see a lawyer. You said you could and would file an appeal if I remember correctly. I know you will make this work out for you.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 22, 2016 16:26:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry. At least you know now. See a lawyer and appeal. Good luck with your other interviews.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jan 22, 2016 16:30:04 GMT -5
I hope this all works out for the best. Being unemployed is rough and it really made me and my fiance sit down and figure out what is really important to us. Still, overall it has been a good thing for us.
It sounds like you have had a lot of interviews, so something should come through soon.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jan 22, 2016 16:32:04 GMT -5
I am still considering seeing a lawyer next week! Yeah! F them in their giant aholes! Sorry they terminated you. It is utter bullshit all you did for them (driving in a snowstorm for an interview, moving multiples times) and they just treated you like shit. But, at least you now have closure. I hope your next employer is much better! |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 22, 2016 16:49:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that, Carl. This truly sucks for you but it sounds like you have some good lines on jobs. I hope the local one pans out for you. <fingers and toes crossed>
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 16:52:07 GMT -5
I'm sorry Carl. If it makes you feel any better, you aren't alone. I was let go from my part-time job today. Truthfully it isn't a big loss as it was incredibly boring but still, it smarts. It was something to do in the afternoon. Good thing is it now gives me the time to work on my resume and brush up on some more useful skills than scanning bills into the computer. I am still employed in my full-time job so no worries there.
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Post by kittensaver on Jan 22, 2016 16:53:57 GMT -5
I am still considering seeing a lawyer next week! It certainly can't hurt to at least have a consultation. If you were terminated for an oversight that commonly happens with other managers (and you can show that it happens with other supervisors and managers without consequences to them), it is very possible that you COULD file an unlawful termination suit.
In short, companies can have policy and procedure handbooks from here to Doomsday, but guess what? In the legal arena, a company's "pattern and practice" is considered to be just as compelling as its written word - and sometimes even MORE compelling. As a matter of fact, when I worked in HR we were routinely advised at HR trainings and seminars that the only thing worse than not having written policies and procedures was having them but not following them. Or following them on a selective basis. That is the basis for a claim of "disparate treatment." In short, if you can prove you were treated differently than other supervisors and managers for the same offense, you may be "on" to something.
Only a good lawyer with training in employment law can really help you walk through this one. Often just the threat of a lawsuit can cause a company to soften its stance and even cough up some additional separation wages. In exchange for those wages, however, they may make you sign some additional documentation promising you will "drop it here" and take no further legal action. If you get into this type of negotiation with the company (through your lawyer), be sure to negotiate the terms of your departure - as in, in exchange for dropping a lawsuit or potential lawsuit, they will list your departure as a resignation, not a termination. That often helps to make interviewing less awkward with fewer explanations.
And only you can decide if this is worth pursuing or if you'd rather stick a fork in it and move on.
ETA: paging Tennesseer . I think he worked in HR for quite a while ? ? and may have words of wisdom to add.
Good luck whatever you decide.
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