The Job Hunt Thread

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I interviewed with a local hospital chain back in 2006 when I was first looking for jobs.   Then they dropped off the face of the planet.
TWO MONTHS LATER they called me wanting to know if I was interested in a second interview!

They seemed shocked when I informed them that since the last interview I had accepted a position at Creighton.


Did they seriously think that was the only job I applied for and I'd be sitting by the phone while they took their sweet ass time?   Lady I got bills to pay!  

[Deleted]

TheHaitian, this is only the first round of interviews.  If they call you back, you can probably count that for unemployment.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Before they changed the rules my two job interviews and shadowing at Quality Clinical all would have counted as three contacts.   Now it would only have counted as one since it was with the same company w/in the same week.

I am glad I wasn't applying under the new guidelines.  There are only a handful of places here that do what I do.   One day I applied to five different jobs but since they were all with UNMC it only would have counted as one contact for the week.

I have no clue if I could have argued about it being all with different departments w/in the company.  It's pretty clear it's five different EMPLOYERS not five different departments with the same employer.

I would have been one of those annoying people applying to random jobs I have no chance in hell of getting just so I could make my five contacts a week.

[emma1420]

Jan 20, 2016 15:18:49 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Before they changed the rules my two job interviews and shadowing at Quality Clinical all would have counted as three contacts.   Now it would only have counted as one since it was with the same company w/in the same week.

I am glad I wasn't applying under the new guidelines.  There are only a handful of places here that do what I do.   One day I applied to five different jobs but since they were all with UNMC it only would have counted as one contact for the week.

I have no clue if I could have argued about it being all with different departments w/in the company.  It's pretty clear it's five different EMPLOYERS not five different departments with the same employer.

I would have been one of those annoying people applying to random jobs I have no chance in hell of getting just so I could make my five contacts a week.

I think that is an absurd rule.   Many areas have several large employers and and it seems ridiculous that if you found multiple job openings that they would only count as one contact.  

Although I always wondered what I would do if I was on unemployment about the contact requirement.  Because nationwide there are probably only 2-3 jobs a month available for me to apply to that fit my skill set.  Locally, I'd be lucky to find more than 5 opportunities in an entire year.  I pray I never have to find this out.  Because the rules seem ridiculous in many states, and they seem to be designed for people in non-professional careers.

[andi9899]

Jan 20, 2016 13:49:44 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I interviewed with a local hospital chain back in 2006 when I was first looking for jobs.   Then they dropped off the face of the planet.
TWO MONTHS LATER they called me wanting to know if I was interested in a second interview!

They seemed shocked when I informed them that since the last interview I had accepted a position at Creighton.


Did they seriously think that was the only job I applied for and I'd be sitting by the phone while they took their sweet ass time?   Lady I got bills to pay!  

I've had places call me after a year.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I think that is an absurd rule. Many areas have several large employers and and it seems ridiculous that if you found multiple job openings that they would only count as one contact.

But it'll get people into jobs faster!!  It will connnect all the employers in Nebraska desperate for people with the people who need jobs!!   It'll keep people from scamming the system by applying to the same job over and over!!

That's what Governor Rickets told me.   All of these new requirements are for my own good and will help me achieve success in my job hunt.

The point is not to connect you with employers in your field.  The point is at some point you will probably be offered a job and if you don't take it then they can kick you off UE.

It's to get you A job, period.   If I can't do it their way then they are going to expect me to retrain in something else that I can get off UE as fast as humanly possible.

[TheHaitian]

1 hr and 3  minutes for second phone interview!!!!

[andi9899]

Jan 20, 2016 11:49:40 GMT -5 emma1420 said:

Just a gripe.  I really wish that employers would post their salary range with the job ad.

I just applied for a job only to discover that the position pays less than half of what I make now.  Did they advertise that with the posting?  No.  I only find out after doing a bunch of research myself and asking in the interview.   It would have saved both myself and the organization so much time if they had just posted the salary range, particularly if the salary range is significantly out of the industry averages for the type of position.  

This could all be eliminated if a salary was just posted!

I went through this whole interview process once and then got an offer for $29K. I was pissed! I said "Thank you for your time" and got up and left. A friend of mine said that I should have asked for gas money since they wasted my time.

[andi9899]

Jan 20, 2016 18:54:32 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

1 hr and 3  minutes for second phone interview!!!!

Is that good or bad? I had an interview that was an hour and a half last week. We were laughing and I was telling the lady how I not only can do the job she was afraid would overwhelm me, but I did the job for 4 people at once for about 6 months at the last place. I hope I get this job!

[TheHaitian]

I don't think it was bad because at the end she basically unofficially invited me to a second interview . She said she would be sending me two more assessments and doesn't see why I would not be invited to a second interview; gave me the dates to make sure I was available that day. They will pay for airfare/hotel and car rental. It is 3 weeks from today... They basically interview everyone at once (all the District managers and regional Vice President are there) and after that interview an offer is extended or not.

Issue while I would not mind taking this job, it was not my first choice since it would require me to relocate! We kinda built ourselves a life here, friends/neighbors and it would suck to have to give it up. Don't get me wrong; I understand we will need to give it up if I cannot find a job locally but doesn't mean it would be pleasant to do so.

I know I am sounding like an ass because I am basically being giving a chance but it is how I feel. The first interview was the typical HR person asking you questions and lasted 30 minutes; while this one was more like a conversation and I was able to make an impression.... But I would still prefer the first job because I would not need to relocate and off course because I quoted them a higher salary

Why did I do that? I call it "financial risk".

HT : established company and still growing. Room to move up; etc. she told me they might be able to match my current salary (85k) or come close to it but whatever I lose I can make up in bonus. Their bonus are leaps and bounds better than my current one... Ex: as a store manager there I can make up to 50% of my salary in bonus compared to 20% now; and even starting out as a co after the 16-22 weeks training it would be 35%-40% salary.
-----> that is the slight downside. They do not start anyone as a store manager and she was honest it would require one to be humble. I basically go back to being a co and training for 16-22 weeks. After that I am assessed (throughout also) and eventually if there is a position open as a store manager I would eventually get it. But like my wife said I am young; not much harm.

Local company : went through some troubles in the past, closed a lot of stores and laid off a few employees. They were bought out a couple years ago by a bigger company and starting to rebuilt: etc.
---> so I quoted them my salary at ~96k; I figure if I am going to go to a company that is shaky financially I would need to be compensate for it because I do not know how long before I get laid off. The increase would afford me max not only my 401k but my wife 403k thus make it worth it (yes the extra money would go straight to savings and not spend money).

But I did not have much a connection with the First Lady so who knows. I did name drop (may backfire) and reached out to someone I know that is close friend to that person and said if they could let them know I applied for a position at their company. That might help and it might not!

And now I wait... I know the second interview the next interview is not till 3 weeks from now and the first interview she said 1 to 2 weeks before I hear anything.... And keep on applying at other jobs.

Still haven't heard anything from my company so still on "administrative leave".

[TheHaitian]

Holy shit... Where have I been? Just completed the 2 assessments she sent me; one was the typical pick 1 to 5 what most likely refers to you or people would refer to you...

But the second one was a video interview using an Async interview app on my phone... Basically you record yourself answering 6 questions!

You can practice as much as you want but once you start you cannot stop or re-record over it! never heard of that before...

Interesting and fascinating. If they were looking for a beautiful man, I am sorry to disappoint! And I have to say: a clever way to disqualify someone early on if you a prejudice against certain ethnic backgrounds! I hope they like black people lol!

Thank you emails have been sent and I continue to wait. I will not be job searching / hunting tomorrow.
- I have a 4.5 hour drive to attend a friend's mother funeral at 11:30, then another 4.5 hour drive back home. So leaving home at like 6:30 AM and probably will not be back till 5 PM or later depending if I get caught in traffic or not.

And my friend situation make me realize I cannot bitch to much about my situation. He lost his dad last summer and he lost his mom on Sunday. Him and his brother became orphan within a 6 months time frame and before they are each 30.

I have my mom that loves me and will go to the moon and back for me; I have a step dad that loves me like a son, a biological father that have a mountain of faults but I believe love me in his own way (we are friendly now... ) and his ex-wife that loves me like the son she never had. Also my MIL with all her faults that loves me and love her back.

And that is not taking into consideration my wife, my aunts/uncles, my cousins. I am so blessed and so thankful for all I have and been given...

This too shall pass! Keeping my head up and 1 step at a time.

[mamasita99]

Carl,

  I live in NOVA, about 25 minutes to DC.  There really are a lot of opportunities here for a wide range of careers, that's why I am here! If you have any questions about the area, let me know and I can try to help.

[emma1420]

Jan 20, 2016 19:59:24 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Jan 20, 2016 11:49:40 GMT -5 emma1420 said:

Just a gripe.  I really wish that employers would post their salary range with the job ad.

I just applied for a job only to discover that the position pays less than half of what I make now.  Did they advertise that with the posting?  No.  I only find out after doing a bunch of research myself and asking in the interview.   It would have saved both myself and the organization so much time if they had just posted the salary range, particularly if the salary range is significantly out of the industry averages for the type of position.  

This could all be eliminated if a salary was just posted!

I went through this whole interview process once and then got an offer for $29K. I was pissed! I said "Thank you for your time" and got up and left. A friend of mine said that I should have asked for gas money since they wasted my time.

That's ridiculous.  

However, it does make me glad that the majority of my industry is non-profit.  At least I can generally yank a 990 and see how much their highest compensated employees are paid.  It's not a perfect system, but at least it gives me an opportunity to weed out those organizations that don't both to pay their employees a competitive wage.

I also bet that the company that offered you that job doesn't understand why they can't attract the talent they want.  When I emailed to withdraw my name from this latest position, the hiring manager expressed disappointment that someone with my experience and skills would drop out.  

Carl -- a long phone interview sounds like a good thing, especially if they are already talking about a second interview.  I know you don't want to relocate, but at least having a job in your back pocket would give you options.  And to me that is the worst thing about job hunting the lack of potential options.

[mojothehelpermonkey]

Jan 20, 2016 19:59:24 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Jan 20, 2016 11:49:40 GMT -5 emma1420 said:

Just a gripe.  I really wish that employers would post their salary range with the job ad.

I just applied for a job only to discover that the position pays less than half of what I make now.  Did they advertise that with the posting?  No.  I only find out after doing a bunch of research myself and asking in the interview.   It would have saved both myself and the organization so much time if they had just posted the salary range, particularly if the salary range is significantly out of the industry averages for the type of position.  

This could all be eliminated if a salary was just posted!

I went through this whole interview process once and then got an offer for $29K. I was pissed! I said "Thank you for your time" and got up and left. A friend of mine said that I should have asked for gas money since they wasted my time.

I had that happen once too. The offer wasn't quite that low, but it was $15K less than I was currently making for the same type of position, and they knew that. I was angry that I wasted an entire vacation day on the interview.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Coke just got back to us.  They want to do a phone interview and possibly an in person interview.   This would be for a lead position so it'd be a step up for DH.

I think it'd be worth talking to them and see what happens.  I left him a message so when he gets home he knows to check our email account.

[zibazinski]

As DS works for Coke, I can tell you how well they treat him and how much he likes working there. 

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 8:14:46 GMT -5 mamasita99 said:

Carl,

  I live in NOVA, about 25 minutes to DC.  There really are a lot of opportunities here for a wide range of careers, that's why I am here! If you have any questions about the area, let me know and I can try to help.

Thank you I greatly appreciate it... And this is what comfort me somewhat; my wife would have a chance to further her career the way she always wanted to with way more opportunities than she had in either NY or MA.

So slightly hoping if that is the job I accept, she would be able to find a job with a bump in pay that make up for the increase cost of living.

Who knows... Just waiting now. Quick pit stop on my way home, 9 hours driving, 4 cups of coffee...

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 8:27:16 GMT -5 emma1420 said:

Carl -- a long phone interview sounds like a good thing, especially if they are already talking about a second interview.  I know you don't want to relocate, but at least having a job in your back pocket would give you options.  And to me that is the worst thing about job hunting the lack of potential options.

I totally agree and that is why I said I feel like an ass for wanting the first job I interviewed for when obviously it seems from my conversation with them and the head hunter today they definitely want me.

It just it would be so much easier to not have to relocate but totally willing to do it if that is what we need to do.

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 12:20:05 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Coke just got back to us.  They want to do a phone interview and possibly an in person interview.   This would be for a lead position so it'd be a step up for DH.

I think it'd be worth talking to them and see what happens.  I left him a message so when he gets home he knows to check our email account.

He definitely should interview no doubt about it! Look at your husband Drama, he is on fire!!!

[TheHaitian]

The other thing that would make staying easier: tomorrow is our first appointment with the IVF clinic.

My second interview is not till 3 weeks from now hopefully (2/10) and it probably take 2-3 weeks to move for good if we do but we would need to find a new clinic and start the whole process over again.

Yes first world problem and I should just be grateful that I have options; I know. Just venting... I just hate being in limbo and not having a clear picture.

1 hour from home and will see if there is anything else to apply to. God help me!

[emma1420]

Jan 21, 2016 16:30:23 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

The other thing that would make staying easier: tomorrow is our first appointment with the IVF clinic.

My second interview is not till 3 weeks from now hopefully (2/10) and it probably take 2-3 weeks to move for good if we do but we would need to find a new clinic and start the whole process over again.

Yes first world problem and I should just be grateful that I have options; I know. Just venting... I just hate being in limbo and not having a clear picture.

1 hour from home and will see if there is anything else to apply to. God help me!

Some of the blood work should be transferable between clinics (or at least decent clinics).  So I suspect that you wouldn't need to start completely from scratch again.  And if you do move your RE might be able to refer you to clinic and help make the transition smoother.   Infertility clinics are big business.   Most of them won't make you repeat a bunch of tests if it means potentially losing your business.

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 17:07:53 GMT -5 emma1420 said:

Jan 21, 2016 16:30:23 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

The other thing that would make staying easier: tomorrow is our first appointment with the IVF clinic.

My second interview is not till 3 weeks from now hopefully (2/10) and it probably take 2-3 weeks to move for good if we do but we would need to find a new clinic and start the whole process over again.

Yes first world problem and I should just be grateful that I have options; I know. Just venting... I just hate being in limbo and not having a clear picture.

1 hour from home and will see if there is anything else to apply to. God help me!

Some of the blood work should be transferable between clinics (or at least decent clinics).  So I suspect that you wouldn't need to start completely from scratch again.  And if you do move your RE might be able to refer you to clinic and help make the transition smoother.   Infertility clinics are big business.   Most of them won't make you repeat a bunch of tests if it means potentially losing your business.

Thank you, I will keep that in mind....

Hopefully (I know I am being an ass) I will not have to do that, letting it known to the Universe!

[TheHaitian]

Guess what? I get home and what is waiting for me in our mailbox?

My W2's from my employer; at least they maintained that form of communication

[taz157]

Jan 21, 2016 18:21:02 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Guess what? I get home and what is waiting for me in our mailbox?

My W2's from my employer; at least they maintained that form of communication

Psst... They have to provide it to you anyway...

(Not to rain on your parade.)

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 18:30:24 GMT -5 taz157 said:

Jan 21, 2016 18:21:02 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Guess what? I get home and what is waiting for me in our mailbox?

My W2's from my employer; at least they maintained that form of communication

Psst... They have to provide it to you anyway...

(Not to rain on your parade.)

Lol I know I know... But it is freaking frustrating that tomorrow will be 1 week and not a beep or sound from them.

Nothing...

[moneymaven]

Jan 21, 2016 18:32:28 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Jan 21, 2016 18:30:24 GMT -5 taz157 said:

Psst... They have to provide it to you anyway...

(Not to rain on your parade.)

Lol I know I know... But it is freaking frustrating that tomorrow will be 1 week and not a beep or sound from them.

Nothing...

I'd suspect that no news may be good news in this circumstance. If they had something sure fire, you'd have heard by now. As Lena says, I may be wrong. I've been wrong before.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Jan 21, 2016 18:32:28 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Jan 21, 2016 18:30:24 GMT -5 taz157 said:

Psst... They have to provide it to you anyway...

(Not to rain on your parade.)

Lol I know I know... But it is freaking frustrating that tomorrow will be 1 week and not a beep or sound from them.

Nothing...

um carl, my former coworker was on unpaid admin leave for roughly 5-6 weeks. Because I was nosy, I asked a friend in admin for updates a couple of times and no one knew a damn thing. So I suspect there was a good 3 weeks or more of no contact. I also don't think they were investigating for the full time either.

[zibazinski]

I'm thinking they hope you find a job and just leave on your own

[TheHaitian]

Jan 21, 2016 21:49:38 GMT -5 moneymaven said:

Jan 21, 2016 18:32:28 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Lol I know I know... But it is freaking frustrating that tomorrow will be 1 week and not a beep or sound from them.

Nothing...

I'd suspect that no news may be good news in this circumstance. If they had something sure fire, you'd have heard by now. As Lena says, I may be wrong. I've been wrong before.

That may be true but wouldn't they want me back to work or fired ASAP since I am on a "paid" administrative leave?

A friend said : you are getting paid so you are basically on vacation. I used to think that when I heard some employees were on paid administrative leave.... Now I know different. You cannot enjoy that time because of the unknown, do you have a job? Don't you? You spend your whole time just thinking about it!

Today is 1 week and I have more gray hair than I had last week, I cannot do months of this!

[TheHaitian]

Jan 22, 2016 0:13:33 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Jan 21, 2016 18:32:28 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Lol I know I know... But it is freaking frustrating that tomorrow will be 1 week and not a beep or sound from them.

Nothing...

um carl, my former coworker was on unpaid admin leave for roughly 5-6 weeks. Because I was nosy, I asked a friend in admin for updates a couple of times and no one knew a damn thing. So I suspect there was a good 3 weeks or more of no contact. I also don't think they were investigating for the full time either.

Wow!!! By 5-6 weeks I would hope he had find another job or be seriously looking/interviewing more so that it was an "unpaid" one. Can you apply for unemployment if it is an unpaid administrative leave?