For those that berate Trump on refugees coming here

[Value Buy]

Yes, this is Japan and we are not Japan, but there philosophy is pretty much, your not coming here


www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/japan-rejected-99-percent-of-refugees-in-2015/ar-BBoCOEZ?li=BBnbfcL 

[Tennesseer]

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

[Shooby]

Jan 24, 2016 9:32:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

So, they are "racists" then?  Oh, don't forget "sexist, homophobe, bigots" when you sling labels.

[Shooby]

  In what way have any of these middle eastern countries advanced society?  Where are the great advances for humanity in the arts, sciences, music, medicine, etc?  Islam is a conquest ideology that seeks to destroy and pillage.  So, if you want to keep pretending it is a "religion of peace" while they rape German women and destroy European culture, then continue your fairy tale.  Doesn't mean we have to go down the same path.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 24, 2016 9:33:40 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:32:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

So, they are "racists" then?  Oh, don't forget "sexist, homophobe, bigots" when you sling labels.

Ethnic issues in Japan

[Shooby]

  So, we have to respect other cultures like the way women are treated under Islam but we dont' have to respect Japanese culture?  Hmmm....

[mmhmm]

Jan 24, 2016 9:32:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

There's quite a battle royal going on amongst members of the government there. Their population is decreasing at a pretty rapid rate and they're unable to find enough people to do the work that needs doing - particularly, jobs involving physical labor. There are several members of the government speaking up for allowing more immigration in order to solve these problems and keep things going. Historically, Japan's strict immigration policies worked in their favor. Now - not so much.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 24, 2016 9:50:04 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:32:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

There's quite a battle royal going on amongst members of the government there. Their population is decreasing at a pretty rapid rate and they're unable to find enough people to do the work that needs doing - particularly, jobs involving physical labor. There are several members of the government speaking up for allowing more immigration in order to solve these problems and keep things going. Historically, Japan's strict immigration policies worked in their favor. Now - not so much.

This says it all. It's a paragraph from the link I provided.

In February 2015, Ayako Sono, a former member of an education reform panel, wrote a controversial column in Sankei Shimbun suggesting that more foreign workers be imported to meet labor shortages, but that they be separated from native Japanese in a system of apartheid.[87][88][89][90] She later explained "I have never commended apartheid, but I do think that the existence of a ‘Chinatown’ or ‘Little Tokyo’ is a good thing."

[Value Buy]

Jan 24, 2016 9:54:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:50:04 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

There's quite a battle royal going on amongst members of the government there. Their population is decreasing at a pretty rapid rate and they're unable to find enough people to do the work that needs doing - particularly, jobs involving physical labor. There are several members of the government speaking up for allowing more immigration in order to solve these problems and keep things going. Historically, Japan's strict immigration policies worked in their favor. Now - not so much.

This says it all. It's a paragraph from the link I provided.

In February 2015, Ayako Sono, a former member of an education reform panel, wrote a controversial column in Sankei Shimbun suggesting that more foreign workers be imported to meet labor shortages, but that they be separated from native Japanese in a system of apartheid.[87][88][89][90] She later explained "I have never commended apartheid, but I do think that the existence of a ‘Chinatown’ or ‘Little Tokyo’ is a good thing."

China and Japan have thousands of years of hatred.
WWII is also still fresh in Japan and China, mainly by the Chinese.
Ireland still has problems with Catholics and Protestants.
Middle East is still fighting wars over the split in religious factions.
Still does not change the fact the U.S immigration program is 100% broken, and must be fixed.
Accusations of Racism by Republicans  pushed by the Hillary and the Democrats has nothing to do with it.

Get over it. 

[Shooby]

OK?  I guess they can figure out their issues for themselves can't they?

[Tennesseer]

Jan 24, 2016 10:02:05 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:54:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This says it all. It's a paragraph from the link I provided.

China and Japan have thousands of years of hatred.
WWII is also still fresh in Japan and China, mainly by the Chinese.
Ireland still has problems with Catholics and Protestants.
Middle East is still fighting wars over the split in religious factions.
Still does not change the fact the U.S immigration program is 100% broken, and must be fixed.
Accusations of Racism by Republicans  pushed by the Hillary and the Democrats has nothing to do with it.

Get over it. 

[billisonboard]

Jan 24, 2016 10:02:05 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:54:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This says it all. It's a paragraph from the link I provided.

China and Japan have thousands of years of hatred.
WWII is also still fresh in Japan and China, mainly by the Chinese.
Ireland still has problems with Catholics and Protestants.
Middle East is still fighting wars over the split in religious factions.
Still does not change the fact the U.S immigration program is 100% broken, and must be fixed.
Accusations of Racism by Republicans  pushed by the Hillary and the Democrats has nothing to do with it.

Get over it. 

Hey don't forget this one:
Confederate Battle Flag

[mroped]

Japan is very traditionalist/separatist when it comes to immigration.
They don't care about your religion or traditions but if you have Japanese blood. That's all it matters.
After WWII, US set up base in Okinawa. Did you know that Okinawans are not considered Japanese?
The only true Japanese are from the four main islands and that's that.

When I was in college, I had a professor that was married to a Japanese woman. They lived together for 10 years in Japan, had a kid but when they divorced he was politely given a six months to leave the country or aply for an extension of his stay. In 10 years of marriage he was barely thru half of the process for citizenship.

And no, it is not considered discriminatory or racist or anything else to do that- refuse refugees or asylum seekers- if you have it in the Constitution.
As we all know, the US takes great pride in being called "the land of the free!" ,"the land of all opportunities ...and so on.
Big difference!

[zibazinski]

Countries need to worry less about public opinion, especially from countries who have problems and wish to share "that wealth" and take care of their own. It seems Japan does just that.

[mmhmm]

Jan 24, 2016 12:22:12 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Countries need to worry less about public opinion, especially from countries who have problems and wish to share "that wealth" and take care of their own. It seems Japan does just that.

That, however, is what their current internal battle is all about ... their policies are starting to be harmful to "their own". Their population is steadily shrinking and there's work to be done with nobody to do it.

[zibazinski]

That is a problem. Hopefully they find a solution that doesn't harm them or others. It doesn't seem to happen in other countries that allow those in who don't wish to assimilate. Just take.

[mroped]

Just because some don't speak English doesn't mean they refuse to assimilate!
Just because some are not considering Thanksgiving of great importance, or Christmas or Easter, doesn't mean they refuse to assimilate!

I could go on and on on this subject but the point is that none of those things that we believe that everybody in this country should be doing is in any way required. We count on the independence of an individual in his thinking and actions.
We have no laws requiring any of those things!

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2016 12:27:17 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jan 24, 2016 12:22:12 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Countries need to worry less about public opinion, especially from countries who have problems and wish to share "that wealth" and take care of their own. It seems Japan does just that.

That, however, is what their current internal battle is all about ... their policies are starting to be harmful to "their own". Their population is steadily shrinking and there's work to be done with nobody to do it.

astute observation.  one might consider what is often useful in fixing that problem- a steady influx of people that are aspiring and poor.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2016 9:33:40 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:32:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Japan has a well known centuries old xenophobic problem.  

So, they are "racists" then?  Oh, don't forget "sexist, homophobe, bigots" when you sling labels.

xenophobia is regional/nationalistic/cultural not based on race.

"KEEP OUT THE MEXICANS" is a xenophobic phrase.

"KEEP OUT THE BROWN PEOPLE" is a racist one.

so, no, Japan is not racist.  they are trying to keep out people of their own race from different regions and countries.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2016 9:35:33 GMT -5 Shooby said:

  In what way have any of these middle eastern countries advanced society?  .

you're kidding, right? 

have you never read anything about ancient Egypt?

[mmhmm]

Jan 24, 2016 13:55:35 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 24, 2016 9:35:33 GMT -5 Shooby said:

  In what way have any of these middle eastern countries advanced society?  .

you're kidding, right? 

have you never read anything about ancient Egypt?

Not only Egypt. Morocco, Yemen and, particularly, Iran/Persia come immediately to mind.

[Sum Dum Gai]

I think the poster meant more recently. Having badass ancestors a couple thousand years ago isn't all that relevant now. Some of us, and we'll probably never know which ones are directly descended from the guy/gal that invented the wheel. However, it happened so long ago that bragging about it, if you could know and prove it in the first place, seems more than a little ridiculous.

In the last ten to twenty years the only time you see the middle east in the news when it comes to art and archaeology is when they're looting their own museums and destroying everything. Not exactly the kind of contribution to the field that the rest of the world wants to see or have imported to their own countries.

[dondub]

In what way have any of these middle eastern countries advanced society? Where are the great advances for humanity in the arts, sciences, music, medicine, etc? Islam is a conquest ideology that seeks to destroy and pillage. So, if you want to keep pretending it is a "religion of peace" while they rape German women and destroy European culture, then continue your fairy tale. Doesn't mean we have to go down the same path.

Perhaps you should be more concerned with your own Christian religion and the fact that there have been more terrorist acts and murders by those believers in the Man of peace here in America than anything your overly stereotyped Muslims do.

[mmhmm]

Jan 24, 2016 14:36:52 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

I think the poster meant more recently. Having badass ancestors a couple thousand years ago isn't all that relevant now. Some of us, and we'll probably never know which ones are directly descended from the guy/gal that invented the wheel. However, it happened so long ago that bragging about it, if you could know and prove it in the first place, seems more than a little ridiculous.

In the last ten to twenty years the only time you see the middle east in the news when it comes to art and archaeology is when they're looting their own museums and destroying everything. Not exactly the kind of contribution to the field that the rest of the world wants to see or have imported to their own countries.

Even recently, Iran is no slouch in the fields of pharmacology, genetics, nanotechnology, and medicine. Heck, the cable modem was invented by an Iranian who had come here to the US from Iran after a year at the Pahlavi University. The dendrosome was invented in Iran by an Iranian. They're not to be sneezed at. We shouldn't get into the habit of measuring all of the Middle East by the actions of the jerks that comprise Daesh.

[Sum Dum Gai]

Even recently, Iran is no slouch in the fields of pharmacology, genetics, nanotechnology, and medicine. Heck, the cable modem was invented by an Iranian who had come here to the US from Iran after a year at the Pahlavi University. The dendrosome was invented in Iran by an Iranian. They're not to be sneezed at. We shouldn't get into the habit of measuring all of the Middle East by the actions of the jerks that comprise Daesh.

And yet those jerks that comprise Daesh are somehow politically or physically powerful enough that when they loot their own museums their own government can't seem to shut them down. I want you to picture a fringe group in the US looting and burning everything in the Smithsonian and facing essentially no repercussions. It's pretty much inconceivable because no fringe group in the US has that much power or is that politically connected. In order to get away with something like that you have to not be a fringe group. You have to be such a large part of the general population that the government fears enforcing repercussions because it could kick off a civil war. That doesn't invalidate the contributions the rest of the country makes, but it is worrying that apparently such a large percentage of the general population feels that way. Especially when it comes to admitting that same population to the US.

If 1 in a 1,000 is a crackpot, big deal. We have more crazy people than that right here. When 25-50% of them are religious zealots or sympathize with religious zealots, letting several thousand of them into the country sounds a whole lot riskier and less productive.

I don't know what the actual percentages are, but based on the fact that there own governments are too afraid to crack down on the whackjobs within their citizenry I can only conclude that the percentage must be pretty high, and we already meet all of our refugee and immigration quotas, so why risk bringing their issues here?

[mroped]

For the last couple hundred years(or in some cases longer) the Middle East and Northern Africa, the very center of the AlQaeda and then ISIL, have been under English or French ruling.
Neither of the occupiers cared to develop any part of the local society or let their cultures advance. That would've been threatening for the rulers.
If you care to convince yourself about it all you have to do is just look up when they obtained their independence.

How would have fared the American culture if the New World would've remain under English rule?
Amd yet in the short lived independent life-about 50 years- there are a great many things that came out of those cultures.
Inteligence, creativity are not qualities or attributes that are exclusive to Americans!

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2016 14:49:08 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Jan 24, 2016 14:36:52 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

I think the poster meant more recently. Having badass ancestors a couple thousand years ago isn't all that relevant now. Some of us, and we'll probably never know which ones are directly descended from the guy/gal that invented the wheel. However, it happened so long ago that bragging about it, if you could know and prove it in the first place, seems more than a little ridiculous.

In the last ten to twenty years the only time you see the middle east in the news when it comes to art and archaeology is when they're looting their own museums and destroying everything. Not exactly the kind of contribution to the field that the rest of the world wants to see or have imported to their own countries.

Even recently, Iran is no slouch in the fields of pharmacology, genetics, nanotechnology, and medicine. Heck, the cable modem was invented by an Iranian who had come here to the US from Iran after a year at the Pahlavi University. The dendrosome was invented in Iran by an Iranian. They're not to be sneezed at. We shouldn't get into the habit of measuring all of the Middle East by the actions of the jerks that comprise Daesh.

i think that it is important to remember that North Africa and the Middle East had advanced civilizations when Europe was still in the Stone Age.  if other posters want to mock them for what they have done since then, then we should be able to put up with them mocking us for wandering around in leather skirts grunting when they were farming, engineering, and making huge advances in language and physics.

but sure, if you want to look at what has happened since then, that's fine.  completely arbitrary, but fine.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 24, 2016 14:57:36 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Even recently, Iran is no slouch in the fields of pharmacology, genetics, nanotechnology, and medicine. Heck, the cable modem was invented by an Iranian who had come here to the US from Iran after a year at the Pahlavi University. The dendrosome was invented in Iran by an Iranian. They're not to be sneezed at. We shouldn't get into the habit of measuring all of the Middle East by the actions of the jerks that comprise Daesh.

And yet those jerks that comprise Daesh are somehow politically or physically powerful enough that when they loot their own museums their own government can't seem to shut them down.

if you are talking about Iraq, it is not the responsibility of the invaded nation to protect museums, it is the responsibility of the invader.

but sure, the Taliban and ISIS should be prosecuted for compromising world heritage sites, as well.

[happyhoix]

Jan 25, 2016 2:00:18 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 24, 2016 14:49:08 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Even recently, Iran is no slouch in the fields of pharmacology, genetics, nanotechnology, and medicine. Heck, the cable modem was invented by an Iranian who had come here to the US from Iran after a year at the Pahlavi University. The dendrosome was invented in Iran by an Iranian. They're not to be sneezed at. We shouldn't get into the habit of measuring all of the Middle East by the actions of the jerks that comprise Daesh.

i think that it is important to remember that North Africa and the Middle East had advanced civilizations when Europe was still in the Stone Age.  if other posters want to mock them for what they have done since then, then we should be able to put up with them mocking us for wandering around in leather skirts grunting when they were farming, engineering, and making huge advances in language and physics.

but sure, if you want to look at what has happened since then, that's fine.  completely arbitrary, but fine.

Also, the Middle East kept the intellectual fires burning during that long stretch of darkness known as the Middle Ages when European nations were dominated by the Catholic Church, who worked to suppress scientific investigations.

[Sum Dum Gai]

Also, the Middle East kept the intellectual fires burning during that long stretch of darkness known as the Middle Ages when European nations were dominated by the Catholic Church, who worked to suppress scientific investigations.

Great, so how far do we let them backslide towards stone age barbarism before we stop giving them a pass because they were enlightened several hundred years ago? What's the statute of limitations on enlightenment and scientific advancement?