tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 10:33:24 GMT -5
|
|
NancysSummerSip
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 19, 2010 19:19:42 GMT -5
Posts: 36,695
Today's Mood: Full of piss and vinegar
Favorite Drink: Anything with ice
|
Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 21, 2016 10:49:30 GMT -5
Sounds too good to be true, even with the .org after it. But let's see if anyone else has heard of this one.
|
|
Opti
Community Leader
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 10:45:38 GMT -5
Posts: 42,246
Location: New Jersey
Mini-Profile Name Color: c28523
Mini-Profile Text Color: 990033
|
Post by Opti on Jan 21, 2016 10:53:59 GMT -5
|
|
ken a.k.a OMK
Senior Associate
They killed Kenny, the bastards.
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 14:39:20 GMT -5
Posts: 14,238
Location: Maryland
Member is Online
|
Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 21, 2016 10:54:14 GMT -5
I'm not going to click on the link because what's after the .org looks suspicious.
|
|
NoNamePerson
Distinguished Associate
Is There Anybody OUT There?
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 17:03:17 GMT -5
Posts: 26,222
Location: WITNESS PROTECTION
|
Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 21, 2016 10:54:58 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Oct 13, 2024 11:31:04 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 10:56:11 GMT -5
"One time fee of $19.95"
Scam
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 11:08:33 GMT -5
"One time fee of $19.95"
Scam It says only if you get the grant. Otherwise money back guarantee.
|
|
NoNamePerson
Distinguished Associate
Is There Anybody OUT There?
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 17:03:17 GMT -5
Posts: 26,222
Location: WITNESS PROTECTION
|
Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 21, 2016 11:11:24 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Oct 13, 2024 11:31:04 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 11:12:53 GMT -5
"One time fee of $19.95"
Scam It says only if you get the grant. Otherwise money back guarantee. Good luck actually getting the money back. By the time they deduct postage and handling and processing etc etc etc...
|
|
NoNamePerson
Distinguished Associate
Is There Anybody OUT There?
Joined: Dec 17, 2010 17:03:17 GMT -5
Posts: 26,222
Location: WITNESS PROTECTION
|
Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 21, 2016 11:13:43 GMT -5
It says only if you get the grant. Otherwise money back guarantee. Good luck actually getting the money back. By the time they deduct postage and handling and processing etc etc etc... Not to mention that they now have all her personal information
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 11:23:44 GMT -5
Scam. I manage government grants and contracts for a non-profit. The gov't doesn't just "hand out" money - you need to sign up at the federal government's contractor website (www.sam.gov, check it out) in order to become a government contractor - meaning, once your are cleared by SAM you can bid directly for government-funded projects OR you are eligible to bid on federal HHS and social service grants. These folks are taking your money (and collecting your personal info! ) to steer you toward programs that "might" be out there. Skip the middle man and go right to the program if you are in some kind of need.
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,566
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 21, 2016 11:48:09 GMT -5
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 11:48:38 GMT -5
Scam. I manage government grants and contracts for a non-profit. The gov't doesn't just "hand out" money - you need to sign up at the federal government's contractor website (www.sam.gov, check it out) in order to become a government contractor - meaning, once your are cleared by SAM you can bid directly for government-funded projects OR you are eligible to bid on federal HHS and social service grants. These folks are taking your money (and collecting your personal info! ) to steer you toward programs that "might" be out there. Skip the middle man and go right to the program if you are in some kind of need. Thanks. What does it mean bid on grants?
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 11:56:21 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Oct 13, 2024 11:31:04 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 12:00:24 GMT -5
You can pretty much bank on anything emailed to you offering you money is a scam. Just delete and move on.
|
|
Tiny
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 29, 2010 21:22:34 GMT -5
Posts: 13,494
|
Post by Tiny on Jan 21, 2016 12:02:27 GMT -5
But, But, But.... you pay for 'free' stuff all the time! $99.00 for Amazon Prime gets you "free shipping" (ok and a bunch of other stuff... but it's marketed as "free shipping" for $99! And then there's all the stuff "As seen on TV" - you can get a second Gadget for FREE! just pay the shipping... It's ok to pay for free stuff!!!
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 12:16:44 GMT -5
Scam. I manage government grants and contracts for a non-profit. The gov't doesn't just "hand out" money - you need to sign up at the federal government's contractor website (www.sam.gov, check it out) in order to become a government contractor - meaning, once your are cleared by SAM you can bid directly for government-funded projects OR you are eligible to bid on federal HHS and social service grants. These folks are taking your money (and collecting your personal info! ) to steer you toward programs that "might" be out there. Skip the middle man and go right to the program if you are in some kind of need. How do you use that website? Just type 'grant' in search? Ok, I had typed HHS and got this Name: TFOM HHS GROUP, JV Doing Business As: TFOM HHS Group Business Type: Business or Organization POC Name: Terry Christopher Registration Status: Active Activation Date: 08/04/2015 Expiration Date: 08/03/2016 And nothing else. No info about what kind, to whom and how to apply.
|
|
|
Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 21, 2016 13:14:48 GMT -5
"One time fee of $19.95"
Scam It says only if you get the grant. Otherwise money back guarantee. Why do you think that things like this are legitimate? If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Oh, and I've submitted a LOT of grants, you don't pay anything to submit a grant. That alone should tell you something.
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 13:26:28 GMT -5
It says only if you get the grant. Otherwise money back guarantee. Why do you think that things like this are legitimate? If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Oh, and I've submitted a LOT of grants, you don't pay anything to submit a grant. That alone should tell you something.
|
|
mmhmm
Administrator
It's a great pity the right of free speech isn't based on the obligation to say something sensible.
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 18:13:34 GMT -5
Posts: 31,770
Today's Mood: Saddened by Events
Location: Memory Lane
Favorite Drink: Water
|
Post by mmhmm on Jan 21, 2016 13:28:24 GMT -5
A really good rule of thumb for internet transactions of this sort: Never, never, never bite on anything that asks for a "small fee" upfront. Just don't do it. Ever.
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 13:32:11 GMT -5
Scam. I manage government grants and contracts for a non-profit. The gov't doesn't just "hand out" money - you need to sign up at the federal government's contractor website (www.sam.gov, check it out) in order to become a government contractor - meaning, once your are cleared by SAM you can bid directly for government-funded projects OR you are eligible to bid on federal HHS and social service grants. These folks are taking your money (and collecting your personal info! ) to steer you toward programs that "might" be out there. Skip the middle man and go right to the program if you are in some kind of need. How do you use that website? Just type 'grant' in search? Ok, I had typed HHS and got this Name: TFOM HHS GROUP, JV Doing Business As: TFOM HHS Group Business Type: Business or Organization POC Name: Terry Christopher Registration Status: Active Activation Date: 08/04/2015 Expiration Date: 08/03/2016 And nothing else. No info about what kind, to whom and how to apply. No. You use this website to look up the existence of/legitimacy of government contractors. So plug in this organization's information and see what you get.
Grants.gov is the place where legitimate organizations go to find services the government is releasing for public bidding by vetted and approved contractors (i.e., the folks registered over on the SAM website).
I agree 100% with The Walk of the Penguin Mich that no one should EVER pay to apply for a grant. In some circles, that could even be considered to be bribery! [as in, paying a fee to some to get consideration for your proposal].
If you need money for a legitimate reason, go to the federal government's Department of Health and Human Services website. A little searching will point you toward the types of for-profit and non-profit organizations nationwide that accept government grants for distribution to persons in need. The site will also steer you toward federal resources that "come down" to your State.
If you are just looking for "free money" - well, it doesn't exist; and if you choose to pay someone to pursue it, then you will get what you deserve (unfortunately). Sorry if I sound harsh, but it's true.
|
|
gregintenn
Senior Member
Resident hillbilly
Joined: Dec 28, 2015 17:07:59 GMT -5
Posts: 2,840
|
Post by gregintenn on Jan 21, 2016 13:34:55 GMT -5
A really good rule of thumb for internet transactions of this sort: Never, never, never bite on anything that asks for a "small fee" upfront. Just don't do it. Ever. So you're saying the check that Nigerian Prince sent me really didn't just get lost in the mail?
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 13:35:55 GMT -5
A really good rule of thumb for internet transactions of this sort: Never, never, never bite on anything that asks for a "small fee" upfront. Just don't do it. Ever. So you're saying the check that Nigerian Prince sent me really didn't just get lost in the mail?
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 13:41:02 GMT -5
How do you use that website? Just type 'grant' in search? Ok, I had typed HHS and got this Name: TFOM HHS GROUP, JV Doing Business As: TFOM HHS Group Business Type: Business or Organization POC Name: Terry Christopher Registration Status: Active Activation Date: 08/04/2015 Expiration Date: 08/03/2016 And nothing else. No info about what kind, to whom and how to apply. No. You use this website to look up the existence of/legitimacy of government contractors. So plug in this organization's information and see what you get.
I agree 100% with The Walk of the Penguin Mich that no one should EVER pay to apply for a grant. In some circles, that could even be considered to be bribery! [as in, paying a fee to some to get consideration for your proposal].
If you need money for a legitimate reason, go to the federal government's Department of Health and Human Services website. A little searching will point you toward the types of for-profit and non-profit organizations nationwide that accept government grants for distribution to persons in need. The site will also steer you toward federal resources that "come down" to your State.
If you are just looking for "free money" - well, it doesn't exist; and if you choose to pay someone to pursue it, then you will get what you deserve (unfortunately). Sorry if I sound harsh, but it's true.
Thanks again. Ok, I went registered my business and waiting to receive DUN number to be able to register as sam.gov as entity. I am assuming after that I will be able to apply for some grant for small business?
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 13:44:06 GMT -5
No. You use this website to look up the existence of/legitimacy of government contractors. So plug in this organization's information and see what you get.
I agree 100% with The Walk of the Penguin Mich that no one should EVER pay to apply for a grant. In some circles, that could even be considered to be bribery! [as in, paying a fee to some to get consideration for your proposal].
If you need money for a legitimate reason, go to the federal government's Department of Health and Human Services website. A little searching will point you toward the types of for-profit and non-profit organizations nationwide that accept government grants for distribution to persons in need. The site will also steer you toward federal resources that "come down" to your State.
If you are just looking for "free money" - well, it doesn't exist; and if you choose to pay someone to pursue it, then you will get what you deserve (unfortunately). Sorry if I sound harsh, but it's true.
Thanks again. Ok, I went registered my business and waiting to receive DUN number to be able to register as sam.gov as entity. I am assuming after that I will be able to apply for some grant for small business? Yes. But that is not the only way. Again, federal money often "comes down" to the States - especially for business development. You should also research your local employment development department, the SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state, and your local chambers of commerce. These are all excellent resources for small business loans and grants.
Good luck to you.
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 14:24:50 GMT -5
Thanks again. Ok, I went registered my business and waiting to receive DUN number to be able to register as sam.gov as entity. I am assuming after that I will be able to apply for some grant for small business? Yes. But that is not the only way. Again, federal money often "comes down" to the States - especially for business development. You should also research your local employment development department, the SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state, and your local chambers of commerce. These are all excellent resources for small business loans and grants.
Good luck to you.
You've opened world to me! I have just left a message for my SBA local office. Hope to get a word back. Going to try chamber of commerce. Have you ever heard about anyone actually getting funded like my business? It seems like they have more of a research labs and institutions in their interest. Again thanks so much.
|
|
tloonya
Junior Associate
What status?
Joined: Dec 18, 2010 16:22:13 GMT -5
Posts: 8,452
|
Post by tloonya on Jan 21, 2016 14:32:12 GMT -5
Yes. But that is not the only way. Again, federal money often "comes down" to the States - especially for business development. You should also research your local employment development department, the SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state, and your local chambers of commerce. These are all excellent resources for small business loans and grants.
Good luck to you.
You've opened world to me! I have just left a message for my SBA local office. Hope to get a word back. Going to try chamber of commerce. Have you ever heard about anyone actually getting funded like my business? It seems like they have more of a research labs and institutions in their interest. Again thanks so much. one more. When you saying SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state do you mean I need to contact SBA of Philadelphia and SBA of PA or these are the same? Thanks
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 14:36:34 GMT -5
Yes. But that is not the only way. Again, federal money often "comes down" to the States - especially for business development. You should also research your local employment development department, the SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state, and your local chambers of commerce. These are all excellent resources for small business loans and grants.
Good luck to you.
You've opened world to me! I have just left a message for my SBA local office. Hope to get a word back. Going to try chamber of commerce. Have you ever heard about anyone actually getting funded like my business? It seems like they have more of a research labs and institutions in their interest. Again thanks so much. I have heard of several businesses like yours getting funded by local and regional organizations who take federal dollars to help business development in their communities (for example, the SBA). Several of those connections were made through participation in the local chamber of commerce, where small business owners go to connect with each other, share resources and find solutions to common problems. BUT be prepared to put some time and energy into being an active and valuable chamber member. Chambers are not government entities; they are local business people banding together to enhance their businesses (and their communities).
Most of the grants on grants.gov are for large corporations who have the resources and infrastructure to take on large projects that the government puts "out to bid." For example: universities, large non-profits, hospitals, research facilities, aerospace development (Boeing has to re-bid every few years to keep making planes purchased by the government), infrastructure development (roads, bridges), stuff like that.
It would not be totally out of the realm of possibility for a small business like yours to "get" something you bid on at grants.gov. But frankly, it is unlikely. You are much better off "tapping" government money through the SBA or other regional business services providers. Hope it works out for you! Let us know how it goes?
|
|
kittensaver
Junior Associate
We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love. - Mother Teresa
Joined: Nov 22, 2011 16:16:36 GMT -5
Posts: 7,983
|
Post by kittensaver on Jan 21, 2016 14:37:30 GMT -5
You've opened world to me! I have just left a message for my SBA local office. Hope to get a word back. Going to try chamber of commerce. Have you ever heard about anyone actually getting funded like my business? It seems like they have more of a research labs and institutions in their interest. Again thanks so much. one more. When you saying SBA (small business administration) in your city, county or state do you mean I need to contact SBA of Philadelphia and SBA of PA or these are the same? Thanks They could be the same. They could be different. I don't know your State. It is something you need to research and figure out.
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,566
|
Post by Tennesseer on Jan 21, 2016 16:38:53 GMT -5
I Googled federal funding programs and looked for complaints against them.
|
|