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Post by imawino on Jan 13, 2016 18:15:27 GMT -5
I didn't see anyone talking about kids? Correct, which is why I mentioned "kids at work" threads... If you replace 'dog' with 'child' in the OP, the responses would be very different -- at least if the previous 2 or 3 threads about bringing kids to work are any indication. I find that interesting. That's all. Sure - you wouldn't have people saying they'd love to bring their kid but aren't allowed. I think both are generally not work appropriate for larger offices. In small casual workplaces I think a lot more goes because you are making policies based on a couple dogs or a couple kids you might know well - not potentially a whole mess of dogs or kids whose behaviors could be a real crapshoot. The reality is I work in an office of about 100 people and I've never seen anyone's dog, but I have met at least 30 people's kids in the office. So while we all seem to agree that kids can be distracting and dogs can be distracting, that reality seems to only stop one distraction from coming to the workplace. Which is probably why more people get annoyed at the topic pf children in the workplace - because they have had them in their workplace several times and found them to be annoying.
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Post by milee on Jan 13, 2016 19:26:54 GMT -5
And while you may not be able to insist on seeing a certificate you can still inform people that you have a no animals policy unless they are a service animal. I'm sure some people may try to take it a step further and lie but most people would just leave, wouldn't they?
Um, no. Not around here they wouldn't. Especially the ones that bring small dogs in purse carriers or strollers. They seem to think their dogs are invisible or universally loved, not sure which.
A good example is at the yacht club where the main lawn has big signs all around it politely stating that dogs aren't allowed on the lawn and pointing them to the dog walk area a few yards away. Mainly because kids - and adults - play on the grass and people were getting tired of rolling or stepping in the dog doodie that nobody seemed to pick up. Anyway, we laugh about how many times there's a person with their dog on a leash standing right in front of or even leaning on the sign - because surely that sign can't apply to their dog...
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Post by milee on Jan 13, 2016 19:34:38 GMT -5
Just read 973beachbum's posts and since we get the same thing around here (in a tourist area), maybe this is a tourist thing? Haven't seen any snakes, but definitely see purse dogs and birds. And the people are exactly as beachbum describes - oblivious that their pet can't come into the grocery store/restaurant/furniture store/mall and angry if anyone discusses it with them.
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Post by swamp on Jan 13, 2016 19:45:04 GMT -5
When I get a dog, the dog will come to work with me.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 13, 2016 20:11:13 GMT -5
And while you may not be able to insist on seeing a certificate you can still inform people that you have a no animals policy unless they are a service animal. I'm sure some people may try to take it a step further and lie but most people would just leave, wouldn't they?
Um, no. Not around here they wouldn't. Especially the ones that bring small dogs in purse carriers or strollers. They seem to think their dogs are invisible or universally loved, not sure which.
A good example is at the yacht club where the main lawn has big signs all around it politely stating that dogs aren't allowed on the lawn and pointing them to the dog walk area a few yards away. Mainly because kids - and adults - play on the grass and people were getting tired of rolling or stepping in the dog doodie that nobody seemed to pick up. Anyway, we laugh about how many times there's a person with their dog on a leash standing right in front of or even leaning on the sign - because surely that sign can't apply to their dog...
Like these people were(n't) leaving? www.cnn.com/2015/08/15/us/restaurant-snake/And the suggestion at the end of the article to call the cops or animal control because only dogs are recognized as sevice animals? A quick search on google debunked that statement. According to the ADA definition a service animal is any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability. If they meet this definition, animals are considered service animals under the ADA regardless of whether they have been licensed or certified by a state or local government. If you are not allowed to ask for proof that the animal was trained to provide assistance you really have no option but to accept its presence
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 13, 2016 20:23:29 GMT -5
I have seen some small yappy variety dogs just about everywhere around here. Sometimes they have their own purse which undoubtedly cost more than mine. Home Depot might allow them too? I saw a lady walking in with one as I was leaving. It was a large breed puppy and pretty poorly controlled by her. I'm glad I was done shopping.
When I was in public accounting I was on a small town audit one time. I had to read the city council meeting minutes. For several months there were complaints from the women's club about a police officer defecating in the flower beds out front of city hall. I couldn't figure it out until I went to the police station to pull documents for my sample of tickets. There sat a K-9. Suddenly it all made sense. The things that are an issue in a small town. They did agree in later months to change where the dog did his business at.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 13, 2016 20:32:17 GMT -5
I have seen some small yappy variety dogs just about everywhere around here. Sometimes they have their own purse which undoubtedly cost more than mine. Home Depot might allow them too? I saw a lady walking in with one as I was leaving. It was a large breed puppy and pretty poorly controlled by her. I'm glad I was done shopping. When I was in public accounting I was on a small town audit one time. I had to read the city council meeting minutes. For several months there were complaints from the women's club about a police officer defecating in the flower beds out front of city hall. I couldn't figure it out until I went to the police station to pull documents for my sample of tickets. There sat a K-9. Suddenly it all made sense. The things that are an issue in a small town. They did agree in later months to change where the dog did his business at. I can't believe his handler didn't clean up after him.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 13, 2016 20:35:17 GMT -5
I have seen some small yappy variety dogs just about everywhere around here. Sometimes they have their own purse which undoubtedly cost more than mine. Home Depot might allow them too? I saw a lady walking in with one as I was leaving. It was a large breed puppy and pretty poorly controlled by her. I'm glad I was done shopping. When I was in public accounting I was on a small town audit one time. I had to read the city council meeting minutes. For several months there were complaints from the women's club about a police officer defecating in the flower beds out front of city hall. I couldn't figure it out until I went to the police station to pull documents for my sample of tickets. There sat a K-9. Suddenly it all made sense. The things that are an issue in a small town. They did agree in later months to change where the dog did his business at. I can't believe his handler didn't clean up after him. He should have and I guess it started after the fuss at the council meetings. The officers at my job clean up after the dogs. The pet relief area is out in front of my building in the complex. The guy with the seeing eye dog cleans up after it. Unfortunately no one cleans up after the geese that shit all over!!! We have marsh/swamp out back so it attracts them. They nest every year on our property.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 13, 2016 20:37:46 GMT -5
There's stuff you can put down that will make the geese stay away. DH used it at his office. We didn't care about the lawn but they crapped on the sidewalk and parking lot.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 13, 2016 20:38:48 GMT -5
I can't believe his handler didn't clean up after him. He should have and I guess it started after the fuss at the council meetings. The officers at my job clean up after the dogs. The pet relief area is out in front of my building in the complex. The guy with the seeing eye dog cleans up after it. Unfortunately no one cleans up after the geese that shit all over!!! We have marsh/swamp out back so it attracts them. They nest every year on our property. I know this sounds bizarre but how did the blind guy know where his dog pooped? Smell the ground?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 13, 2016 20:56:06 GMT -5
He should have and I guess it started after the fuss at the council meetings. The officers at my job clean up after the dogs. The pet relief area is out in front of my building in the complex. The guy with the seeing eye dog cleans up after it. Unfortunately no one cleans up after the geese that shit all over!!! We have marsh/swamp out back so it attracts them. They nest every year on our property. I know this sounds bizarre but how did the blind guy know where his dog pooped? Smell the ground? I guess he's not completely blind. I think my manager must have been nosy and asked? She's the one who told me he said you had to be able to clean up after them to get one that it was part of the qualifications. So you have to at least have some very limited sight in order to do that. One of my cousins has one and she can only see things that are very close up. Like she does just fine reading a book or on a computer but things like driving are not possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 21:48:14 GMT -5
My best friend takes her 4 small dogs to work with her several times a year because that lets her leave straight from the office on Friday when she goes to the country. They stay in crates and get walked a couple of times a day and everyone is cool with it. Personally, I always preferred animals in the office to the children.
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Post by Apple on Jan 14, 2016 0:39:35 GMT -5
When I get a dog, the dog will come to work with me. My lawyer always had his dog in the office. He had a huge desk, and the dog was always behind it, napping/quiet/well behaved, so it took a couple visits before I realized there was a dog.
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Post by tskeeter on Jan 14, 2016 2:30:31 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with dogs in the office if the dog is well behaved and nobody is allergic to dogs. Dogs in public places, including restaurants, are common in some parts of Europe and go virtually unnoticed because they are so well behaved.
There are some places where I don't think dogs belong. Such as Home Depot on Saturday morning. Too much congestion. Too much activity. Too few dogs trained to handle such a situation.
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Post by cronewitch on Jan 14, 2016 3:08:15 GMT -5
I did bring a stray cat in with me a month or so ago! I went out to my car at lunchtime and heard pitiful meowing, so I looked around the corner and there was a little cat! Kitten still, really. I said "here kitty" and damned if the little thing didn't come! So then I was thinking "well, now what the hell do I do with this cat?" LOL. I brought it back in the office with me (it followed me like a little dog) and called someone who miraculously promised to find it a home and came to get it within 10 minutes. He was a cutie pie. But vocal! People in a meeting a few doors down heard him and came to see if someone really had a cat here. He was probably loud because he was hungry, but the lady came to get him so quickly I didn't even have a chance to try to scrounge up a snack for him. Our guys found a bearded dragon under the dock in a shipyard so brought it to the carpenter shop. The scrounged up food for it by asking everyone if we had produce so it got more food than it could eat and still wasn't happy. The lady from the pound or someplace came and took it away but it bit her. One coworker was a farmer with a border collie that fought off a predator and got chewed up. He brought him to work then had to leave for most of the day so put him with the receptionist all day. Everyone was introduced to him and petted him, he seemed to like all the attention too bad he didn't keep bringing him to work but the dog had chores at home. We had a company cat mostly lived in payroll. He belonged to an electrician but they moved the electrical shop farther out on the dock and the cat didn't want to move. Sometimes she would come in our offices when payroll was closed. She tried to get people to let her in the attic with the mice but we wouldn't do it, sometimes she used a conference room or empty office to nap. At night the security guards kept her in the guard shack. We had a new guard and I told him he was supposed to take care of the cat at night, he said nobody told him but the cat told him. He didn't like cats but the cat had a shelf with a towel in the guard shack so he did need to let her in to sleep. It is nice having pets around but like one pet for a hundred and some people. I now have my own pets at home just this week I got my first pets in years. I got 500 meal worms as pets, I feed them and watch them, hoping they grow into beetles then new meal worms I hear they lay 500 eggs each so I could soon have millions of pets. I will then take them on play dates to see the chickens, I hope they like chickens I hear chickens like them.
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Post by yogiii on Jan 14, 2016 8:31:25 GMT -5
I would have never thought it was ok to bring a dog to work. I also don't know anyone who does this.
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Post by yogiii on Jan 14, 2016 8:34:32 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with dogs in the office if the dog is well behaved and nobody is allergic to dogs. Dogs in public places, including restaurants, are common in some parts of Europe and go virtually unnoticed because they are so well behaved. There are some places where I don't think dogs belong. Such as Home Depot on Saturday morning. Too much congestion. Too much activity. Too few dogs trained to handle such a situation. Do you mean dogs in Europe are common at restaurants because the dogs are essentially wild dogs? Yes, it's like seeing a chicken walking through a gas station.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jan 14, 2016 8:59:49 GMT -5
I work in the public library, so dogs are not encouraged, but I don't believe we have an official policy forbidding them. Most patrons leave their dogs outside if they pop in while walking the dogs, but at least one person with a small dog will carry it in, briefly. Once I came into work and was surprised to find dog droppings on the carpet! I hadn't worked the previous evening, and was working alone, so had no idea how/why it could have happened and been missed by the person closing up. Cleaned it up and promptly forgot. Few months later, this happens again. Time to delicately ask the director what is going on during the evenings she works. She has no idea. Turns out another coworker came in while we were closed, with her dog. She was mortified, Brownie has never done anything like this ever before, etc.
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Post by dannylion on Jan 14, 2016 10:32:24 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with dogs in the office if the dog is well behaved and nobody is allergic to dogs. Dogs in public places, including restaurants, are common in some parts of Europe and go virtually unnoticed because they are so well behaved. There are some places where I don't think dogs belong. Such as Home Depot on Saturday morning. Too much congestion. Too much activity. Too few dogs trained to handle such a situation. Do you mean dogs in Europe are common at restaurants because the dogs are essentially wild dogs? Yes, it's like seeing a chicken walking through a gas station. No, the dogs are pets. I once met a lovely Bassett hound named Snoopy in a restaurant in Luxembourg. I also met several very nice dogs in various restaurants in France and Belgium, but I d not recall their names at the moment.
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Post by yogiii on Jan 14, 2016 10:34:42 GMT -5
Do you mean dogs in Europe are common at restaurants because the dogs are essentially wild dogs? Yes, it's like seeing a chicken walking through a gas station. No, the dogs are pets. I once met a lovely Bassett hound named Snoopy in a restaurant in Luxembourg. I also met several very nice dogs in various restaurants in France and Belgium, but I d not recall their names at the moment. Ok, I believe you but not my experience
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Post by movingforward on Jan 14, 2016 12:35:52 GMT -5
I work for a small company and I don't see a problem with certain dogs being in the office. An employee that used to work under me brought her corgi to work 3 days a week. The dog would lie down under her desk and rarely made a sound. She walked it during her lunch break, and I really enjoyed having it around. It was nice to go into her office to ask her something and be able to pet the dog. He was adorable!
After she left, her replacement found out that the person used to bring her dog to work and asked if she could as well. She had a yappy little Pomeranian. Don't get me wrong, Poms are adorable but some are not office appropriate. I told her we could try it out and see how it went. The dog would start yapping at the least little thing and it was LOUD! Other people in the office would be on a professional call and people on the other end of the phone would ask "is that barking", etc. It just didn't work.
The problem with allowing dogs at work; however, is that if you let one person do it then everyone wants to do it and not all dogs have the right temperament to be at a place of business.
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Post by kittensaver on Jan 14, 2016 15:05:18 GMT -5
A little off topic, I know, but . . . .
When I have rescue bottlefeeders (kittens), they come to the office with me. They need to be fed around the clock (at slowly increasingly longer intervals) until they are able to feed themselves. They go from the carrier into a warm 'nest' (old towels on top of a heating pad, with another towel loosely laid on top of them, in a box in the corner of my office) and slumber quietly between feedings. I get occasional visitors from around the office, but generally like to keep to business. Good thing I have an understanding boss (she's even adopted one of my kittens ). Once they get to be about 3 1/2 to 4 weeks old, are able to start using a litter box and discover their lung power - then they stay home.
I'm glad no one at my office has a problem with this, otherwise I couldn't do it.
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Post by movingforward on Jan 14, 2016 15:40:59 GMT -5
A little off topic, I know, but . . . .
When I have rescue bottlefeeders (kittens), they come to the office with me. They need to be fed around the clock (at slowly increasingly longer intervals) until they are able to feed themselves. They go from the carrier into a warm 'nest' (old towels on top of a heating pad, with another towel loosely laid on top of them, in a box in the corner of my office) and slumber quietly between feedings. I get occasional visitors from around the office, but generally like to keep to business. Good thing I have an understanding boss (she's even adopted one of my kittens ). Once they get to be about 3 1/2 to 4 weeks old, are able to start using a litter box and discover their lung power - then they stay home.
I'm glad no one at my office has a problem with this, otherwise I couldn't do it.
Who could NOT want a bottle fed kitten in the office. I want one right now! Besides, cats are better than dogs
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Post by imawino on Jan 14, 2016 15:45:12 GMT -5
A little off topic, I know, but . . . .
When I have rescue bottlefeeders (kittens), they come to the office with me. They need to be fed around the clock (at slowly increasingly longer intervals) until they are able to feed themselves. They go from the carrier into a warm 'nest' (old towels on top of a heating pad, with another towel loosely laid on top of them, in a box in the corner of my office) and slumber quietly between feedings. I get occasional visitors from around the office, but generally like to keep to business. Good thing I have an understanding boss (she's even adopted one of my kittens ). Once they get to be about 3 1/2 to 4 weeks old, are able to start using a litter box and discover their lung power - then they stay home.
I'm glad no one at my office has a problem with this, otherwise I couldn't do it.
Who could NOT want a bottle fed kitten in the office. I want one right now! Besides, cats are better than dogs LOL. Yeah, if you are a person whose heart wouldn't melt over saving tiny baby kittens, you're just not a person I want to know.
But I am going to have to have my dog bite you for the other comment! My cats applaud you though.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 14, 2016 17:20:23 GMT -5
Tiny baby kittens are the best. I'm not allergic to them yet because they are too little to groom themselves.
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Post by emma1420 on Jan 14, 2016 17:21:20 GMT -5
I work for a small company and I don't see a problem with certain dogs being in the office. An employee that used to work under me brought her corgi to work 3 days a week. The dog would lie down under her desk and rarely made a sound. She walked it during her lunch break, and I really enjoyed having it around. It was nice to go into her office to ask her something and be able to pet the dog. He was adorable! After she left, her replacement found out that the person used to bring her dog to work and asked if she could as well. She had a yappy little Pomeranian. Don't get me wrong, Poms are adorable but some are not office appropriate. I told her we could try it out and see how it went. The dog would start yapping at the least little thing and it was LOUD! Other people in the office would be on a professional call and people on the other end of the phone would ask "is that barking", etc. It just didn't work. The problem with allowing dogs at work; however, is that if you let one person do it then everyone wants to do it and not all dogs have the right temperament to be at a place of business.Yep. And at least where I work, the people who's dogs have the most inappropriate temperament would be in the most regularly. I work with a great woman who has an old english sheep dog. She adores that dog, if we could bring in her dog, she would every day. Of course, the dog has fear-aggression and I suspect it's just a matter of time before it bit someone. I also think the definition of what is a well behaved dog varies wildly. However, I also think that all dogs that are service animals should have to document that they have passed the Good Canine Citizen test. Most trained service dogs would pass the test in a snap, and the dogs that are used as emotional support animals that have no specific training would have to get some training. The test is challenging but passable by most dogs with a trainer or an owner who works with them. And I don't think it's unreasonable to expect basic good manners from a dog.
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