Dogs in the office

[imawino]

awwwwwwwww. adorable.

I want to post a picture of my dog, but have no idea how.

[MJ2.0]

Jan 13, 2016 15:47:59 GMT -5 imawino said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:39:49 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

that's kind of understandable (because dogs shouldn't be cooped up like that) but it doesn't sound like that's the reason most of the people in these posts are bringing their dogs in.

Most of the people in these posts aren't bringing their dogs in.

the people discussed in these posts ARE bringing their dogs in, hence the reason for the thread.

[imawino]

Jan 13, 2016 15:51:40 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:47:59 GMT -5 imawino said:

Most of the people in these posts aren't bringing their dogs in.

the people discussed in these posts ARE bringing their dogs in, hence the reason for the thread.

Ah yes, some do. I thought you meant most of the posters - who by and large are saying they would like to bring their dog in but can't or don't.

[NastyWoman]

Jan 13, 2016 15:48:53 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Personally I would find it distracting.

At the grocery store it has been happening a lot lately.  I don't know why but people just walk in with their pets.  Mostly dogs but a bird or two and once a boa constrictor.   I understand that everyone thinks their pet is precious and love it to death but unless it is an actual emergency leave it at home.  No one wants your pet sniffing their food. 

...Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.

.... Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.

And that's what inconsiderate *ssholes use to bring in their pets everywhere.  I just don't understand why people with a deadly allergy (and I am NOT one of them) don't get any protection under this law

[kcladyjane]

Jan 13, 2016 15:55:46 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:48:53 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Personally I would find it distracting.

At the grocery store it has been happening a lot lately.  I don't know why but people just walk in with their pets.  Mostly dogs but a bird or two and once a boa constrictor.   I understand that everyone thinks their pet is precious and love it to death but unless it is an actual emergency leave it at home.  No one wants your pet sniffing their food. 

...Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.

.... Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.

And that's what inconsiderate *ssholes use to bring in their pets everywhere.  I just don't understand why people with a deadly allergy (and I am NOT one of them) don't get any protection under this law

No one here is allergic to dogs.  If there was someone allergic I would leave my dog at home. 

[kcladyjane]

Jan 13, 2016 15:51:32 GMT -5 imawino said:

awwwwwwwww. adorable.

I want to post a picture of my dog, but have no idea how.

I upload photos to Photobucket.com and then copy the direct link in photobucket.  Then I paste into the picture icon above the text box here.

[973beachbum]

Jan 13, 2016 15:55:46 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:48:53 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Personally I would find it distracting.

At the grocery store it has been happening a lot lately.  I don't know why but people just walk in with their pets.  Mostly dogs but a bird or two and once a boa constrictor.   I understand that everyone thinks their pet is precious and love it to death but unless it is an actual emergency leave it at home.  No one wants your pet sniffing their food. 

...Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.

.... Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.

And that's what inconsiderate *ssholes use to bring in their pets everywhere.  I just don't understand why people with a deadly allergy (and I am NOT one of them) don't get any protection under this law

I wasn't talking about service dogs.  We actually have a couple that come in regularly.  And apart from them being dogs most wouldn't even notice them they are so well behaved.  These dogs and the snake are literally just people who think theiranimals are great! and everyone should get to experience them.

Now everyone imagine going through the bread in the bakery at the local GC and having a snake slither out from around someone's neck to, sniff/lick, (I have no idea how to put that!) the bread you pick up to buy.   The owners response when the other customer screetched is isn't she wonderful? with a big smile.

[andi9899]

Jan 13, 2016 14:19:20 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

I didn't used to mind someone bringing their dog in occasionally.  Up to once a month, no big deal as long as it is a calm well mannered dog.  We have 2 office spaces in the building I'm in 90% of the time and we have 2 employees who bring in their dogs regularly and its driving me nuts.  They don't bark and are well mannered dogs, but it is still frustrating.  The one on my side of the office has free reign, will come in and out of my individual office, leaves toys around the office.  Why or how this became such a regular occurrence is beyond me, but I'm in the minority on wishing they weren't here, so I'm venting here.  What says YM?  

That it's inconsiderate and unprofessional. Love dogs all you want, but the office is a place of business. Keep your dog at home.

[sapphire12]

I'd love to have a dog in the office. I'm the type the bigger and furrier the better, but it's not really practical where I work. There are a couple of people that have "work" dogs, but they don't count, primarily because I rarely see one.  I would of loved to bring my shepherd/collie mix to work when he was alive. He wouldn't have bothered anyone.

But, alas, some people are terrified of dogs and others are allergic, but I think the workplace overall would be better if we had pets. There is a company that brings pets to the workplace for a fee at a scheduled time.

[NastyWoman]

Now everyone imagine going through the bread in the bakery at the local GC and having a snake slither out from around someone's neck to, sniff/lick, (I have no idea how to put that!) the bread you pick up to buy. The owners response when the other customer screetched is isn't she wonderful? with a big smile.

All these people have to do is to claim the snake or whatever is needed to help them deal with their anxiety/depression/whatever and store owners can't prevent you from taking that slithery thing inside the store.   

[wyouser]

Dogs in the office? I love dogs! And, here's an idea.....How about we let the dogs go to work and WE get to stay home and guard the castle?    

[Lizard Queen]

Years ago, a leasing agent got a puppy and would bring it with her to work regularly. It was so quiet, and shw had an office with a door, so nobody really noticed or minded. My company used to own its building and leased office space to other businesses. A couple years later, there was a guy who worked in one of the other businesses who had his dog with him all the time. It followed him close by without a leash. It was well behaved, but it was completely innappropriate and against the rules of their lease. Plus, I think it pooped on the grass, but he didn't clean it up. Waiting for a meeting, one of my coworkers mentioned it was cute. I asked WTH was he allowed to bring a dog in the building all the time? I think he stopped bringing it shortly thereafter. Nobody in charge was present, so I don't know if I had anything to do with it. I like dogs, but it's got to be the right kind of place for them. This wasn't.


Edit:  I got my dogs at the office mixed up.  The one that always pooped on the grass belonged to a blind woman who came into the clinic in the building seemingly -all the time-.  I think the clinic was asked to clean up, and they told her she needed to clean up after the dog.  Seems kind of shitty  , but who wants poop-scooper as part of their job description?

[imawino]

Jan 13, 2016 15:55:46 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:48:53 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Personally I would find it distracting.

At the grocery store it has been happening a lot lately.  I don't know why but people just walk in with their pets.  Mostly dogs but a bird or two and once a boa constrictor.   I understand that everyone thinks their pet is precious and love it to death but unless it is an actual emergency leave it at home.  No one wants your pet sniffing their food. 

...Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.

.... Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.

And that's what inconsiderate *ssholes use to bring in their pets everywhere.  I just don't understand why people with a deadly allergy (and I am NOT one of them) don't get any protection under this law

I agree that you should only bring your animal (or kid, or significant other, or trombone, or annoying fucking loud hand-held device, or whatever) to places where they are wanted and acceptable.  But I don't think "deadly" allergic reactions to being in the same building as an animal are much of a thing.  Are they?   You may be being dramatic.

[bean29]

The only business I take my dogs into is Petco, and I really prefer not to take them in there too often either. If I have them with me, they go in b/c it is allowed.

DH takes our puppy to his office.  He says his customers kids often play with the puppy while he is helping their parents. The puppy is supposed to be a foster puppy but I think we might keep him.

I brought my older dog to the office a few times on the weekend. I didn't think it mattered b/c no one was here anyways. I stopped doing it b/c my dog was very restless and wanted to walk through the whole building and check everything out. I stopped b/c it seemed to stress him out.  I commented to the president on it, and he said he used to bring his older dog b/c she didn't like to be home alone either. He said she wanted to check out all the offices too, but she would eventually curl up on a cushion in his office. I noticed my when I am at my Vet's office at closing time that the employees all leave with their pets, so they obviously bring their pets to work there.

I guess it just depends on the environment.  If you don't like it, I guess you should say something.

[emma1420]

I'd love to bring my dog in, but no dogs for us (or kids for that matter, except in very rare instances).  We do have people occasionally bring their dog in for a visit, but they aren't welcome to stay.

[imawino]

Jan 13, 2016 16:03:27 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:55:46 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

...Under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), privately owned businesses that serve the public, such as restaurants, hotels, retail stores, taxicabs, theaters, concert halls, and sports facilities, are prohibited from discriminating against individuals with disabilities. The ADA requires these businesses to allow people with disabilities to bring their service animals onto business premises in whatever areas customers are generally allowed.

.... Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.

And that's what inconsiderate *ssholes use to bring in their pets everywhere.  I just don't understand why people with a deadly allergy (and I am NOT one of them) don't get any protection under this law

I wasn't talking about service dogs.  We actually have a couple that come in regularly.  And apart from them being dogs most wouldn't even notice them they are so well behaved.  These dogs and the snake are literally just people who think theiranimals are great! and everyone should get to experience them.

Now everyone imagine going through the bread in the bakery at the local GC and having a snake slither out from around someone's neck to, sniff/lick, (I have no idea how to put that!) the bread you pick up to buy.   The owners response when the other customer screetched is isn't she wonderful? with a big smile.

I've never seen an animal other than a service dog anywhere in a local grocery store, mall, Target, nowhere - EXCEPT PetSmart or Lowes, because they do, as a policy, allow dogs.   Is this really an epidemic where some of you live?  And while you may not be able to insist on seeing a certificate you can still inform people that you have a no animals policy unless they are a service animal.  I'm sure some people may try to take it a step further and lie but most people would just leave, wouldn't they? 

[973beachbum]

Jan 13, 2016 16:07:38 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Now everyone imagine going through the bread in the bakery at the local GC and having a snake slither out from around someone's neck to, sniff/lick, (I have no idea how to put that!) the bread you pick up to buy. The owners response when the other customer screetched is isn't she wonderful? with a big smile.

All these people have to do is to claim the snake or whatever is needed to help them deal with their anxiety/depression/whatever and store owners can't prevent you from taking that slithery thing inside the store.   

That is the biggest problem.  If they know to say it is a service animal we basically have to let them do whatever they want but that doesn't stop other customers from freaking out.  And truthfully they should have a right to grocery shop without having to worry about that.

I will say that most people actually don't claim anything.  They literally think it is fine to bring their animal anywhere they want and don't understand why it isn't okay.

I agree that if it is okay in your office to bring your pet in that is fine.  I would find it distracting but every office is different and I know that sometimes I am the strange one.   But public places seem to be totally ruled by people who think what they want should be the rule and don't seem to have any respect for others. 

[midjd]

Jan 13, 2016 15:10:51 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

I think it's interesting that bringing in a pet seems to be more appropriate than bringing in your child.  

I thought so too. I remember a few "kids at work" threads in which basically 99.9% of posters were vehemently opposed to it except in emergency situations. I figured this topic would go down the same path. 

[imawino]

Jan 13, 2016 16:19:47 GMT -5 midjd said:

Jan 13, 2016 15:10:51 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

I think it's interesting that bringing in a pet seems to be more appropriate than bringing in your child.  

I thought so too. I remember a few "kids at work" threads in which basically 99.9% of posters were vehemently opposed to it except in emergency situations. I figured this topic would go down the same path. 

I didn't see anyone talking about kids?

[973beachbum]

Jan 13, 2016 16:18:00 GMT -5 imawino said:

Jan 13, 2016 16:03:27 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

I wasn't talking about service dogs.  We actually have a couple that come in regularly.  And apart from them being dogs most wouldn't even notice them they are so well behaved.  These dogs and the snake are literally just people who think theiranimals are great! and everyone should get to experience them.

Now everyone imagine going through the bread in the bakery at the local GC and having a snake slither out from around someone's neck to, sniff/lick, (I have no idea how to put that!) the bread you pick up to buy.   The owners response when the other customer screetched is isn't she wonderful? with a big smile.

I've never seen an animal other than a service dog anywhere in a local grocery store, mall, Target, nowhere - EXCEPT PetSmart or Lowes, because they do, as a policy, allow dogs.   Is this really an epidemic where some of you live?  And while you may not be able to insist on seeing a certificate you can still inform people that you have a no animals policy unless they are a service animal.  I'm sure some people may try to take it a step further and lie but most people would just leave, wouldn't they? 

Remember I live in a tourist area during the summer so not your usual place.  During the winter it might be once a week or twice a month and more often than not the kind of dog that would fit in a big purse like Paris Hilton would carry around. 

During the summer if a day went by that I didn't see one it was a good day.  Most days it was two or three.  And we weren't that close to the beach either.  So they didn't just walk over with the dog and not realize they didn't know what to do with them.  We are a good 15 minute drive in a car. 

The snake did make for an interesting day though.  

[imawino]

Jan 13, 2016 16:25:57 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

Jan 13, 2016 16:18:00 GMT -5 imawino said:

I've never seen an animal other than a service dog anywhere in a local grocery store, mall, Target, nowhere - EXCEPT PetSmart or Lowes, because they do, as a policy, allow dogs.   Is this really an epidemic where some of you live?  And while you may not be able to insist on seeing a certificate you can still inform people that you have a no animals policy unless they are a service animal.  I'm sure some people may try to take it a step further and lie but most people would just leave, wouldn't they? 

Remember I live in a tourist area during the summer so not your usual place.  During the winter it might be once a week or twice a month and more often than not the kind of dog that would fit in a big purse like Paris Hilton would carry around. 

During the summer if a day went by that I didn't see one it was a good day.  Most days it was two or three.  And we weren't that close to the beach either.  So they didn't just walk over with the dog and not realize they didn't know what to do with them.  We are a good 15 minute drive in a car. 

The snake did make for an interesting day though.  

But why isn't someone who works there telling them pets aren't allowed?

[973beachbum]

Someone does but either they claim total ignorance and getting them to leave isn't quick or easy let alone unnoticed.  Or they get mad and have half a cart full of food at the back of the store.   No matter how it is said it never ends well.

Lets just say people on vacation tend to be much more difficult for some reason.  Not to mention they do things I can't imagine they would ever do at home.  One thing being I have been to PA literally hundreds of times and never once saw anyone take a dog in a grocery store.

And there is a sign on the door saying quite clearly no pets allowed except service animals.

[dannylion]

I love to go into a business and see a dog. It automatically makes me feel very positive about the business. If I worked in kcladyjane's company, I would be visiting her all the time so I could pet the dog (though I am sure I would enjoy her company as well--she is, after all, obviously a dog person).  

Dogs are good.

[tractor]

While I like dogs, I could never work at a place that allowed them in the building. My allergies would prevent me from functioning, and I would be sick most of the time. I have two dogs of my own, but they are not allowed in the house, and I actually have to wear gloves when I pet them or I will break out in hives. I'm actually take allergy meds, live would be even more of a challenge without them. Our company has a no pets in the building policy.

[midjd]

Jan 13, 2016 16:24:03 GMT -5 imawino said:

Jan 13, 2016 16:19:47 GMT -5 midjd said:

I thought so too. I remember a few "kids at work" threads in which basically 99.9% of posters were vehemently opposed to it except in emergency situations. I figured this topic would go down the same path. 

I didn't see anyone talking about kids?

Correct, which is why I mentioned "kids at work" threads... 

If you replace 'dog' with 'child' in the OP, the responses would be very different -- at least if the previous 2 or 3 threads about bringing kids to work are any indication. I find that interesting. That's all.  

[MJ2.0]

Jan 13, 2016 17:04:21 GMT -5 midjd said:

Jan 13, 2016 16:24:03 GMT -5 imawino said:

I didn't see anyone talking about kids?

Correct, which is why I mentioned "kids at work" threads... 

If you replace 'dog' with 'child' in the OP, the responses would be very different -- at least if the previous 2 or 3 threads about bringing kids to work are any indication. I find that interesting. That's all.  

Exactly what I was thinking.

[MJ2.0]

Jan 13, 2016 16:37:55 GMT -5 dannylion said:

I love to go into a business and see a dog. It automatically makes me feel very positive about the business. If I worked in kcladyjane's company, I would be visiting her all the time so I could pet the dog (though I am sure I would enjoy her company as well--she is, after all, obviously a dog person).  

Dogs are good.

Like people, they are not all good.

[MJ2.0]

Jan 13, 2016 16:37:55 GMT -5 dannylion said:

I love to go into a business and see a dog. It automatically makes me feel very positive about the business. If I worked in kcladyjane's company, I would be visiting her all the time so I could pet the dog (though I am sure I would enjoy her company as well--she is, after all, obviously a dog person).  

Dogs are good.

Like people, they are not all good.

[resolution]

Jan 13, 2016 16:46:25 GMT -5 tractor said:

While I like dogs, I could never work at a place that allowed them in the building. My allergies would prevent me from functioning, and I would be sick most of the time. I have two dogs of my own, but they are not allowed in the house, and I actually have to wear gloves when I pet them or I will break out in hives. I'm actually take allergy meds, live would be even more of a challenge without them. Our company has a no pets in the building policy.

I have the same problem, although with me they trigger breathing problems and allergy induced asthma. If dogs were allowed at work I would end up out on FMLA and then lose my job when my 12 weeks were up.

I get allergy shots monthly, which has helped a lot, but they aren't perfect and wouldn't stand up to constant exposure to allergens.

[raeoflyte]

In the long ago I'd bring a dog to work with me when I went in early Sunday mornings--but that was me going in at like 2am on a weekend by myself.  I used to walk a coworkers dog on my lunch break when she OCCASIONALLY brought the dog in for a half day here or there.