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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 10:19:42 GMT -5
Tickets were sold for a raffle $2 each or 3 for $5, 2100 tickets were sold and ~$4085 was raised
How many tickets were sold at each price? I think the equation is 1.67x + 2y = 4085, x+y = 2100
Can anyone help me?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 10:28:57 GMT -5
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Post by myrrh on Jan 8, 2016 10:49:00 GMT -5
I think you are correct, and I get y ($2 tickets) = ~1752 x ($5 for 3) = ~348
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 10:51:02 GMT -5
Is it 4805 or 4085?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 10:54:11 GMT -5
I think you are correct, and I get y ($2 tickets) = ~1752 x ($5 for 3) = ~348 This = 5244$
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 11:09:04 GMT -5
You could be right Rukh, I will have to keep figuring
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Post by Regis on Jan 8, 2016 11:15:02 GMT -5
If the $4,085 is correct, I get 1755 tickets at $2 each ($3,510.00) and 345 tickets (115 groups at $5 = $575.00).
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 8, 2016 11:18:35 GMT -5
Either laterbloomer's or @tbird's equations will work. The next step is to combine them.
I'm going to use later's. Since we know that x + y = 2100, we know that y = 2100-x. We use that in the first equation, so know we have: 1.67x + 2(2100-x) = 4085 This simplifies to .33x = 115 This tells us that 348 tickets were sold at x - the 3 for $5 amount, and 1752 were sold at $2 apiece.
We can double check this using rukh's equations x = 2100-3y 2(2100-3y) + 5y = 4085 y = 115 since in this case, y is the number of 3 ticket packs sold, we need to multiply 115 x 3, which is exactly the same as the dividing it by .33 we did in the previous set of equations.
So we are confirmed 348 tickets were sold at the 3 for $5, and 1752 were sold at $2 each.
Now, these numbers are not exact. There's some decimals in there. But the take was only approximately $4085. I am certain that if we had the exact numbers, we'd get exact numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 11:21:31 GMT -5
Not having exact numbers is making me a little shabby...
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Jan 8, 2016 11:25:28 GMT -5
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 8, 2016 11:28:45 GMT -5
Either laterbloomer 's or @tbird 's equations will work. The next step is to combine them.
I'm going to use later's. Since we know that x + y = 2100, we know that y = 2100-x. We use that in the first equation, so know we have: 1.67x + 2(2100-x) = 4085 This simplifies to .33x = 115 This tells us that 348 tickets were sold at x - the 3 for $5 amount, and 1752 were sold at $2 apiece.
We can double check this using rukh's equations x = 2100-3y 2(2100-3y) + 5y = 4085 y = 115 since in this case, y is the number of 3 ticket packs sold, we need to multiply 115 x 3, which is exactly the same as the dividing it by .33 we did in the previous set of equations.
So we are confirmed 348 tickets were sold at the 3 for $5, and 1752 were sold at $2 each.
Now, these numbers are not exact. There's some decimals in there. But the take was only approximately $4085. I am certain that if we had the exact numbers, we'd get exact numbers. One of the reasons that later got into trouble was her equations using non-integers and rounding. There just isn't any need to set these up with built in errors. And I got different answers than you. When I plugged my x and y solutions into both equations, they came out as the perfectly round number that went in. You are right. If I had actually multiplied 115 x 3, I would have gotten 345, instead of 348, and that's because 1/3 is not the same as .33 - meaning setting up the equation with fractions (dreaded fractions) instead of decimals would have been much more accurate. So, the answer is 345 tickets sold at 3 for $5 and and 1755 sold at $2 each.
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Post by myrrh on Jan 8, 2016 11:32:01 GMT -5
Thank you shanendoah!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 11:36:28 GMT -5
I got 5T + 2t = 4085 3T + t = 2100 so t = 2100 - 3T
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5T + 2 (2100-3T) = 4085
5 T + 4200 - 6T = 4085
T = 115 x 3 = 345 tickets 115 x 5 = $575 t = 1755 tickets X 2= $3510
$575 + $3510 = $4085 if that is the number
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 8, 2016 11:41:38 GMT -5
Perhaps for explaining why you were right and I was wrong?
Or perhaps for saying fractions are better than decimals?
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Post by Regis on Jan 8, 2016 11:58:29 GMT -5
Perhaps for explaining why you were right and I was wrong?
Or perhaps for saying fractions are better than decimals? Fractions are better than decimals when you round the decimals.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 8, 2016 12:28:44 GMT -5
laterbloomer: Both your construction and @tbird's are correct. Hers is the way I'd have done it, but be careful to note that her y variable represents the number of 3-ticket groups sold, hence 3 y is the number of tickets sold at the discounted price in her setup. Just as a helpful hint in solving such problems in future, there's no rule that states we have to use generic variable names like x and y. Using more descriptive names often helps clarify things in your own mind and for others. For example: Let n2$/1 be the number of tickets sold at $2 apiece, and n$5/3 be the number of groups of 3 tickets sold at $5 per group. Then: 2 n2$/1 + 5 n$5/3 = 4,085 1 n2$/1 + 3 n$5/3 = 2,100 and the total number of tickets sold in the groups is given by 3 n$5/3.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 13:09:17 GMT -5
You guys are awesome. Except Virgil Showlion, you were supposed to dumb it down for me and give me the answer!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 8, 2016 13:29:21 GMT -5
You guys are awesome. Except Virgil Showlion , you were supposed to dumb it down for me and give me the answer! First of all: check whether the total sales are indeed supposed to be $4,085 (that's what the problem statement says, but your first equation has $4,805). Multiply the second equation by -2 and add it to the first equation. This gives you: - n$5/3 = -115 hence n$5/3 = 115 groups of 3 tickets (comprising 3 n$5/3 = 345 total tickets). Substitute this into the second equation and solve for n$2/1, which turns out to be 1,755. It never hurts to check, hence we verify that indeed: 2·1755 + 5·115 = 4,085 1·1755 + 3·115 = 2,100 shanendoah's numbers are correct.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 14:05:10 GMT -5
Sorry guys, it was $4,085.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 8, 2016 15:07:22 GMT -5
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Post by shanendoah on Jan 8, 2016 16:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 8, 2016 16:58:01 GMT -5
Just to confirm the correctness of the solutions given, sure. The link is to Wolfram Alpha, not wolfram.com. WA is a "computational knowledge engine". One of its principal uses is that you can give it a system of equations and ask it to find the solutions. It doesn't hurt as a verification tool.
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