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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 7, 2015 6:42:04 GMT -5
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Post by resolution on Dec 7, 2015 7:09:57 GMT -5
I wonder the same thing. Is this a new phenomena because our society is becoming more violent, or has this always existed and been covered up?
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 7, 2015 7:28:16 GMT -5
I think it has always been covered up.
Why is it that when we have a police shooting, it takes month, maybe years of investigating to come to a decision?
On the other hand, in cases like the shooting in California, in minutes, hours, and days we know everything about that couple almost including what their sex life was like!
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 7, 2015 9:20:45 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan on Dec 7, 2015 10:22:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it was always happening and just getting covered up.
Unless these guys were in the military and saw combat, these cops probably are able to act calmly in situations like this.
I was watching a video of a solider that lost his eyesight because of a car bomb in iraq. He said that they had reports that there was one in the area that day. They saw a suspicious car, they told the guy to get out of the car, the guy didn't comply, he shot a bullet at the front of the car to send a warning, and then the guy blew himself up.
Based on what you see in the news, it seems like the police don't have training in how to just send a firm warning to someone.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Dec 7, 2015 17:22:59 GMT -5
Yeah, it was always happening and just getting covered up. Unless these guys were in the military and saw combat, these cops probably are able to act calmly in situations like this.I was watching a video of a solider that lost his eyesight because of a car bomb in iraq. He said that they had reports that there was one in the area that day. They saw a suspicious car, they told the guy to get out of the car, the guy didn't comply, he shot a bullet at the front of the car to send a warning, and then the guy blew himself up. Based on what you see in the news, it seems like the police don't have training in how to just send a firm warning to someone. People sometimes forget that police tend to see a lot of different things and get put in a lot of bad situations too. It's by no means condoning when bad things happen, but that one line stuck out to me for that reason. As far as the police, it's just as easy to find many other situations that are handled better; but showing how they outnumber the bad situations isn't as eye catching or politically expedient. So from a PR perspective, it's pretty much a no-win situation for the police. The bigotry toward police is really no different than any other group, if you believe something to be true or not true, then it is almost always easy to find examples to fit that story-line. I've already asked a question in the past that really doesn't have an easy answer, and I'm not sure anybody really knows the answer. In case you were wondering, the question was simply that maybe the reason when cops are asked if skin color has anything to do with the way they act and the say no; or maybe the reason all the "sensitivity" and "cultural understanding" seminars aren't cutting down on issues as much as people would like is because maybe racism isn't actually the reason for it. I know it's a hard thing for some to think about, but maybe racism really isn't the underlying issue or reason for it all. Is it at all possible that maybe the police are more likely to be more forceful in more dangerous areas because they are more dangerous, no matter the skin color of the residents? If I am in a dangerous situation, I may be less likely to let certain things slide that I might let if I did not feel as threatened; so it's a vicious cycle where police act more forcefully because of mistrust and the residents have mistrust because of police acting more forcefully than they would in "safer" areas. It probably also doesn't help if police don't live in the areas they patrol because it is hard to want to cooperate with police if you know that after they leave, the people that don't want you cooperating are still going to be there and by cooperating you put yourself and your family at risk. There is a lot at play in different situations, and we can all pick and choose to "prove our side of the argument is right," but ultimately there is no right answer that is easy to figure out. Saying it's primarily because of racism is the easy answer and works for political grandstanding, but I'm not sure it's the right answer because it is assuming that in general, police would ask differently if all else was equal (other than the skin color of the person).
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